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Title: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: ronan on 23 October 2021, 02:08:24 PM
Hello
I'd like to have 3 russian men in trench, like the german one  (GRX19 https://www.pendraken.co.uk/ngrx19-n3-men-in-a-trench-3-4036-p.asp (https://www.pendraken.co.uk/ngrx19-n3-men-in-a-trench-3-4036-p.asp) )
It may be really useful for many scenarios.

Thank you and take care

Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 October 2021, 02:23:34 PM
Yes, please!

I've been asking for a while.

Delenda Est Carthago!
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 October 2021, 03:12:26 PM
And me!
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 23 October 2021, 03:23:57 PM
 Yes, Russians... U.S and maybe Japanese too. They are very useful pieces... would like more... and MG and A/T teams. Possibly an empty trench, also.
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Techno II on 23 October 2021, 03:41:01 PM
I made/converted three 'men in a trench'......SO long ago......I can't even recall what nationality they were.

If I ever find them.....

If I do find them, Leon is more than welcome to them.....for nuffink.
From a cost point of view..... I'm genuinely not sure whether it's worth PD popping them on to the site.

Cheers - Phil  :)

Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Elliesdad on 23 October 2021, 04:33:38 PM
My first thought was that this was going to be a humorous item - perhaps some Eastern European version of 3 men in a boat (errrr... a trench in this particular case).  ;) :)
To be fair, I'm not disappointed. Some 10mm WW2 Soviets in protective earthworks would indeed be useful. I do have some in 15mm.

Geoff

Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: ronan on 23 October 2021, 04:36:35 PM
Quote from: Elliesdad on 23 October 2021, 04:33:38 PM
My first thought was that this was going to be a humorous item (...)

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 October 2021, 04:58:15 PM
Quote from: Techno II on 23 October 2021, 03:41:01 PM

From a cost point of view..... I'm genuinely not sure whether it's worth PD popping them on to the site.


For Russians, I'd want at least 24 infantry ones. So 8 packs, maybe 10? If there are half a dozen, or so, like me that's initial costs covered, as I understand it.

Entrenched MMGs and 81mm (or so) mortars would be of interest, though clearly I'd need fewer. So less viable, maybe?
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 October 2021, 04:59:52 PM
Quote from: Elliesdad on 23 October 2021, 04:33:38 PM
My first thought was that this was going to be a humorous item - perhaps some Eastern European version of 3 men in a boat (errrr... a trench in this particular case).  ;) :)
To be fair, I'm not disappointed. Some 10mm WW2 Soviets in protective earthworks would indeed be useful. I do have some in 15mm.

Geoff


Three Russians in a trench, one can read, one can write and the last one is there to keep an eye on the intellectuals.
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Elliesdad on 23 October 2021, 05:18:37 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 23 October 2021, 04:59:52 PM
Three Russians in a trench, one can read, one can write and the last one is there to keep an eye on the intellectuals.

;D ;D
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Orcs on 23 October 2021, 05:25:51 PM
Yes, All nationalities in a trench, pref with  an HMG and Mortar options
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: ronan on 23 October 2021, 05:30:45 PM
Three russians in a trench, one ukrainian, one georgian and one from Moscow.
The officer asks if this a joke ?


sorry ...   :D
I know it's an old one.. but could not resist ...


( About reading / writing, I've been told the USSR was one of the best, due to school and communism. - Surely in the first years, may be still in WW2 ?  :-\ )
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 October 2021, 05:33:59 PM
Quote from: ronan on 23 October 2021, 05:30:45 PM
( About reading / writing, I've been told the USSR was one of the best, due to school and communism. - Surely in the first years, may be still in WW2 ?  :- )

It's more a joke about levels or surveillence and the low opinion of intellectuals held by the Communist Party than of the education system.
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 October 2021, 01:45:43 AM
It reminds me of a couple of Russians I had to teach once. They'd been sent by the embassy for a bit of in-service training, which was odd, because they spoke accurate, idiomatic, and fluent English. We ended up spending much class time watching Yes, Minister, which they were delighted at:

This Sir Humphrey, Nikolai - he's just like Boris Ilarionovich in the visa section, isn't he?

No, he's easier to understand than Boris!

They went on to explain that Sir Humphrey would have been able to use the complexity of Russian grammar to muddy the waters even more than he habitually did.
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Raider4 on 24 October 2021, 08:13:00 PM
Quote from: Orcs on 23 October 2021, 05:25:51 PM
Yes, All nationalities in a trench, pref with  an HMG and Mortar options

Eeek! That's going to be a big trench. And probably a bit bad-tempered as well.
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 October 2021, 09:01:40 PM
  Ahem..
https://youtu.be/ARSNaSeT9hw
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Raider4 on 24 October 2021, 09:09:23 PM
LOL, love it.

"Oh, nein nein, I'm not playing. I get way too competitive; it brings out the worst in me."

"I just assumed they were mine."

Brilliant.
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: paulr on 24 October 2021, 11:35:37 PM
Not again... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 25 October 2021, 03:22:17 PM
Best chuckle I've had for a while!  ;D
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Mako on 03 January 2022, 07:05:50 PM
I can see where these would be useful, but it's not really too hard to add standing or kneeling riflemen to trenches made from foam, clay, or other materials.

If the standing ones prove to be too tall, cut them off at the knees and paint the lower portion of the trenches black to cover that up.

I've done this successfully in 15mm with troops in trenches and foxholes, so I can see how that can easily be done in this smaller scale too.

Of course, if available as an option, I'd support and might even buy some of these too.

I find guys in foxholes more useful than trenches though.
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: ronan on 09 January 2022, 12:45:56 AM
I tried to make some.
Did not get a good result...

Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 09 January 2022, 12:51:59 PM


QuoteI find guys in foxholes more useful than trenches though.

The existing 3-men-in-a-trench models for the Brits and Germans are ideal to depict dug-in versions of my BKC infantry stands. It would be nice to have the equivalent for other armies (Russians and Americans at least).


Techno would know better than I but I'm hoping it would only need head swaps on the existing models.

Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Leon on 09 January 2022, 02:07:38 PM
I'm hoping to do new versions for all nations, with a modular trench/dug-in and then various upper torsos to drop into it.  It won't be appearing in the near-future but hopefully before the end of the year.
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 09 January 2022, 03:15:53 PM
As long as it will fit onto a 40x20mm base I'm happy!
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Leon on 09 January 2022, 04:21:57 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 09 January 2022, 03:15:53 PMAs long as it will fit onto a 40x20mm base I'm happy!

I'll make sure it does!
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: ronan on 14 January 2022, 07:06:42 PM
QuoteI'm hoping to do new versions for all nations, with a modular trench/dug-in and then various upper torsos to drop into it.  It won't be appearing in the near-future but hopefully before the end of the year.

Thank you !  :)
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Leon on 14 January 2022, 07:26:05 PM
To update on this, we've done an initial experiment with the British 'men in a trench' code and it works a lot nicer.  We'll start working through the other existing codes to do the same and then we can add in new ones as well.
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: ronan on 15 January 2022, 06:04:27 PM
 :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 26 January 2023, 01:11:22 PM
Any progress on this Leon?

I realise you're drowning in other things so guessing probably not. But hope springs eternal .... :)
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Leon on 26 January 2023, 11:45:03 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 26 January 2023, 01:11:22 PMAny progress on this Leon?

I realise you're drowning in other things so guessing probably not. But hope springs eternal .... :)

Not yet sadly, still got delays with anything resin related.  I've sent some test pieces to another resin caster to see if we can ease the bottleneck a bit.
Title: Re: 3 russian men in trench ?
Post by: Mako on 28 January 2023, 06:36:01 AM
Infantry are very useful, but we'll also be wanting machine gunners supported by loaders in trenches too.