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Title: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Techno II on 05 February 2021, 04:13:49 PM
Thought we ought to have this ready.  ;)....No-one's started a comments thread yet, have they ?

Some very nice work in !

And there's a welcome to Greg, as his entry was his first post !!

Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 05 February 2021, 05:22:05 PM
Those Zouavrs are lovely Greg.
Hello and welcome too.
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Post by: Steve J on 05 February 2021, 05:45:33 PM
Thanks for setting this up Phil. Welcome on board Greg and some lovely entries already :).
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Post by: mollinary on 05 February 2021, 05:54:56 PM
Well done, Phil, I was wondering when this would open up. Welcome Greg!
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Post by: paulr on 05 February 2021, 07:04:43 PM
Welcome Greg :-h
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 February 2021, 07:15:08 AM
I did put one on the vehicles thread, Leon moved it to "Painting Comp" thread.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Techno II on 06 February 2021, 08:03:33 AM
Oh, well..... There are two places folk can comment now !

Cheers - Phil. :)
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Post by: Smithy on 06 February 2021, 06:57:05 PM
Welcome Greg, lovely work on the Zoauves. Some great entries already
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Post by: FierceKitty on 08 February 2021, 02:17:57 AM
I have little hope of winning against some of the brushmasters here, but at least this competition lights a fight under me and gets me painting again.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 08 February 2021, 08:42:36 AM
FIRE
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Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 10 February 2021, 07:32:50 AM
Not many entries yet.
I've six more on the block, wonder how many more are in other people's?
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Post by: fred. on 10 February 2021, 08:23:20 AM
I need to get organised and take some photos.

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Post by: Leon on 10 February 2021, 09:11:36 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 10 February 2021, 07:32:50 AM
Not many entries yet.
I've six more on the block, wonder how many more are in other people's?

It's usually a bit slow to begin with as folks finish up painting and grab photos I guess.  By the 10th day last time we had the same number of entries at 13, so we're right on course.  We did get another 21 entries on the 11th though, so get posting folks!
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Post by: mollinary on 10 February 2021, 09:38:21 AM
I am waiting for some better light before taking some more photos. Oh, and a bit of warmth!
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Post by: mmcv on 10 February 2021, 11:25:19 AM
Yeah, I plan to see what all I get painted in the next week or two then pick from that
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 February 2021, 04:00:07 PM
The first two armies are both very impressive
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Post by: Westmarcher on 10 February 2021, 05:03:13 PM
Can't disagree.  :-bd
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Post by: Smithy on 10 February 2021, 06:30:49 PM
Yep, blooming marvellous both of them. I have some cavalry and artillery on order for my French Napoleonics which I hope to have ready to submit before the month is out. Not sure I'll be up to the standard already set but the comp has definitely lit a fire under my behind these last few weeks!
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Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 10 February 2021, 09:12:57 PM
Gareth FPW is superb
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Post by: FierceKitty on 11 February 2021, 02:53:30 AM
Depressed. With some of the entries here, there goes my hope of winning this year!  :'(
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Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 11 February 2021, 06:59:29 AM
And mine!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Techno II on 11 February 2021, 07:02:37 AM
There are some wonderful entries in.

Cheers - Phil   :)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Techno II on 14 February 2021, 02:19:54 PM
Guys...PLEASE keep comments about entries here..Don't make comments in the threads for entries.

It always happens.....and I'd admit I've been very close to doing the wrong thing, myself.  ;D

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 14 February 2021, 03:00:44 PM
Same here!
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 14 February 2021, 03:48:43 PM
Phil and Will do you ever do the right thing - I did put a comment in the Vechiles cat a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Techno II on 14 February 2021, 04:10:42 PM
Yes....but you posted in the wrong place right at the start.

And what on earth are Vechiles ?...Some sort of tendon no-one's ever heard about ? ;)

Cheers - Phil  ;)


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Post by: FierceKitty on 14 February 2021, 06:20:09 PM
No, no, it rhymes with Achilles, so a Vechiles cat is clearly some sort of feline which is heroic even by kitty standards.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Techno II on 14 February 2021, 07:15:02 PM
Oooooh......You're just making things up, Alexander. ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 February 2021, 01:36:45 AM
Quote from: Techno II on 14 February 2021, 07:15:02 PM
Oooooh......You're just making things up, Alexander. ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil  :)

Are you claiming I don't have Nicole Kidman and Johnny Depp waiting for me in the bedroom?
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Ithoriel on 15 February 2021, 05:14:08 AM
Quote from: Techno II on 14 February 2021, 04:10:42 PM
And what on earth are Vechiles ?...Some sort of tendon no-one's ever heard about ? ;)

A quick google search would show you that vechiles is a commonly used word which describes those objects also known as vehicles.

Language evolves :)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 February 2021, 05:23:17 AM
But most mutations die sad and premature deaths.
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Post by: Ithoriel on 15 February 2021, 05:27:05 AM
Many do but some thrive and flourish - evolution in action. IDIC :)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 17 February 2021, 04:56:21 PM
Jesus, those Samurai are formidable!
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Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 17 February 2021, 05:01:51 PM
Jesus Jesus! Amazing extras added!  8)
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Post by: andymac on 17 February 2021, 06:51:52 PM
Really glad i am not a judge any more there are some really hard decisions to be made and we are not finished yet
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Post by: Smithy on 17 February 2021, 08:35:15 PM
Wow, there is some truly fabulous work on show here (not including my humble offerings in that statement!).
But very much inspiring and motivating me to keep on pushing my painting ability
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Post by: Blind Musketeer on 17 February 2021, 08:46:38 PM
Wait a minute. . . did I just see eyeballs painted on a 10mm LOA French??  :o

that's incredible!

Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: hammurabi70 on 17 February 2021, 09:28:39 PM
Quote from: Blind Musketeer on 17 February 2021, 08:46:38 PM
Wait a minute. . . did I just see eyeballs painted on a 10mm LOA French??  :o

that's incredible!



Back in the 1980s I had a friend who painted eyeballs on 6mm figures; every figure in the army and checkable with a magnifier.  Some people are brilliant.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Techno II on 17 February 2021, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: andymac on 17 February 2021, 06:51:52 PM
Really glad i am not a judge any more there are some really hard decisions to be made and we are not finished yet

I'm with you on that, Andy !

I used to end up with a blinding headache when there were just the six (?) of us doing the marking.
Much prefer the new method. ;)......But it's still going to hard to choose...Stunning stuff there already.

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: sean66 on 18 February 2021, 08:55:41 AM
Bad news my paint shipment from Pendraken doesn't have the colours i need  :'(
tried a local (German) hobby store last night their website said it had the colours I needed, so ordered  :)
Ten minutes later dreaded e mail. I'm sorry we dont have those colours in stock  :o :'(
:- now what to paint for the Painting Competition.
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 18 February 2021, 10:25:37 AM
Timecast?
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Post by: Leon on 18 February 2021, 01:00:50 PM
Quote from: sean66 on 18 February 2021, 08:55:41 AM
Bad news my paint shipment from Pendraken doesn't have the colours i need  :'(
tried a local (German) hobby store last night their website said it had the colours I needed, so ordered  :)
Ten minutes later dreaded e mail. I'm sorry we dont have those colours in stock  :o :'(
:- now what to paint for the Painting Competition.

I think it's a shortage at Vallejo's end sadly so could be Covid related.  Our UK supplier has just had a massive delivery come in but there's about a dozen colours missing from it, including white!  I'm trying to find out when they're expecting another restock so hopefully it's not far away.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Big Insect on 18 February 2021, 05:08:04 PM
Quote from: sean66 on 18 February 2021, 08:55:41 AM
Bad news my paint shipment from Pendraken doesn't have the colours i need  :'(
tried a local (German) hobby store last night their website said it had the colours I needed, so ordered  :)
Ten minutes later dreaded e mail. I'm sorry we dont have those colours in stock  :o :'(
:- now what to paint for the Painting Competition.
Regards
Sean

Might have to resort to GW (wash my mouth out) ... I heard that their sloth-belly white is pretty good  :'(
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Jesus on 18 February 2021, 06:39:45 PM
Thank you !!, I feel very flattered !! :) :)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Big Insect on 19 February 2021, 09:46:25 AM
There is some cracking entries in that Open Army section ... I think it will be a tough choice for the judges this year.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: sean66 on 19 February 2021, 10:22:24 AM
Quote from: Leon on 18 February 2021, 01:00:50 PM
I think it's a shortage at Vallejo's end sadly so could be Covid related.  Our UK supplier has just had a massive delivery come in but there's about a dozen colours missing from it, including white!  I'm trying to find out when they're expecting another restock so hopefully it's not far away.

I do find it a bit disconcerting that Covid seems to be effecting the supply chains around the world. I am an experienced Logistician. All the way through Covid I have tried my best to keep my particular supply chain open. Even during some of the harsh weather we have had here in Bavaria I've only had packages delayed by a day or two. but since this huge storm has landed in US they have shut my supply chain off from their end. but whenever you contact a Shipper/Courier I always get the same response. Even though I can see they get it in good time and the delay is always with the shipper, their excuse is always " well you know COVID is playing havoc with supply around the world"
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Leon on 19 February 2021, 10:33:36 AM
Luckily we've not seen much at our end but I can only imagine how bad it's been in some sectors.  With the Vallejo issue I think it's probably a combination of limited staffing due to Covid/distancing at their factory, combined with a surge in demand from folks stuck at home in lockdown, plus the shipping issues getting stuff in and out of the EU/UK at the moment.  I've had an update today though that my supplier is expecting another pallet to arrive in the UK in around two weeks' time so not too far away.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: sean66 on 19 February 2021, 11:31:55 AM
I think another big issue was once China got working again, there was a massive demand for shipping containers.
this with the other country lock downs and holding of containers within ports produced a lack of shipping containers pushing some
to be priced at exorbitant rates. hearing some being charged over $12,000 to move from China to Europe. extra $2,000 into a UK Port.
regards
Sean
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Techno II on 19 February 2021, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: Big Insect on 19 February 2021, 09:46:25 AM
There is some cracking entries in that Open Army section ... I think it will be a tough choice for the judges this year.

Oh......I imagined that we'd be doing the same as last comp.....In that everyone (who wants to) gets a vote. (Or more accurately LOTS of votes.)  :-\

Cheers - Phil :)
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Post by: Leon on 19 February 2021, 09:05:06 PM
Yep, it'll be a public vote again this year!
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Post by: paulr on 20 February 2021, 04:05:23 AM
I've posted my entries, there are also some very impressive entries this year ;)
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Post by: Prophaniti on 21 February 2021, 04:55:17 PM
There's some really inspiring stuff across all the categories. Looking forward to seeing what else comes in between now and the deadline.
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Post by: Steve J on 21 February 2021, 05:00:25 PM
Certainly some very impressive entries already, which means it's going to be damned difficult to choose winners and runners up.
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Post by: fred. on 21 February 2021, 05:18:37 PM
There are some really great entries. Lots of really great entries.

To all the new people posting pictures, its great to see them. Just with the format of the painting comp threads, its not possible to comment on them directly  :(

Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Big Insect on 21 February 2021, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: fred. on 21 February 2021, 05:18:37 PM
There are some really great entries. Lots of really great entries.

To all the new people posting pictures, its great to see them. Just with the format of the painting comp threads, its not possible to comment on them directly  :(


Maybe that can happen after the event is closed Fred?
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Post by: FierceKitty on 23 February 2021, 11:19:42 AM
I don't care much for fantasy, but Hoagie's trolls are just right. :)
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 February 2021, 12:20:35 PM
Ben - your LoA piccies seem toi be non-existant
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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 23 February 2021, 12:34:36 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 23 February 2021, 12:20:35 PM
Ben - your LoA piccies seem toi be non-existant

After much swearing, then checking the help forum I seem to have sorted it!🤪
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 February 2021, 12:53:17 PM
Most of us do that.
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 February 2021, 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: Ben Waterhouse on 23 February 2021, 12:34:36 PM
After much swearing, then checking the help forum I seem to have sorted it!🤪


Erm NO - mind you they look better like that  ;D
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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 23 February 2021, 01:18:44 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 23 February 2021, 12:59:27 PM

Erm NO - mind you they look better like that  ;D

Twentyfifth time lucky (note to self dont delete imugr pics after posting....)  :D
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Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 23 February 2021, 06:51:32 PM
I'm really enjoying looking at the entries.

It's instructive to see the variety of painting styles employed, all with good effect.
I'm also picking up some handy basing hints by looking at others work.

Great stuff - keep it up.
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Post by: Techno II on 24 February 2021, 07:45:35 AM
Quote from: Ben Waterhouse on 23 February 2021, 01:18:44 PM
Twentyfifth time lucky (note to self dont delete imugr pics after posting....)  :D

You Wombat !!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 February 2021, 10:02:18 AM
Any why prey would Ben be a 1970's 120mm RCL Phil ?
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Post by: DecemDave on 24 February 2021, 11:28:00 AM
I've only looked at pre 20C foot since that is my interest area but those entries vary from the superb to the awesomely superb. So well done everyone.   I don't envy the judges but I do envy the skill of the entrants and their armies!  I will stick to my excuse that I'm painting for wargames armies not for close up photos but its obviously an excuse as I have seen some of the units in their armies elsewhere.   I am still deciding if the competition entries are inspiring or depressing!   Been locked down too long.    ;)


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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 24 February 2021, 02:04:58 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 24 February 2021, 10:02:18 AM
Any why prey would Ben be a 1970's 120mm RCL Phil ?

Ha! I have fired a Charlie G mind...
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 February 2021, 02:23:14 PM
So have I Ben, and a 66, 25pdr aon 105 Oto maleria
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 25 February 2021, 11:11:59 AM
I've fired a 66, but only saluting battery 25lbr.😃
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Post by: Jesus on 25 February 2021, 07:21:33 PM
there is little left to finish the term, I want to see all the works
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Post by: mollinary on 25 February 2021, 07:35:20 PM
Hi Leon,

I notice that in this year's competition there are a number of otherwise excellent entries which don't entirely conform to the rules (too many photos, too many vehicles).   I do hope their authors  are going to be encouraged to modify these entries before the completion date, rather than being disqualified afterwards?  It would be a great shame if any of these lovely pieces did not get considered over technicalities!
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Leon on 25 February 2021, 08:34:51 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 25 February 2021, 07:35:20 PM
I notice that in this year's competition there are a number of otherwise excellent entries which don't entirely conform to the rules (too many photos, too many vehicles).   I do hope their authors  are going to be encouraged to modify these entries before the completion date, rather than being disqualified afterwards?  It would be a great shame if any of these lovely pieces did not get considered over technicalities!

I usually go through all of the entries close to the end date and check for anything like that.  An extra figure here or there isn't too much of an issue and the extra pictures are easily removed.
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Post by: mollinary on 25 February 2021, 08:49:04 PM
Thanks Leon, an eminently practical approach!   Good to know you are watching over us.  ;)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Leon on 26 February 2021, 09:59:43 AM
Quote from: mollinary on 25 February 2021, 08:49:04 PM
Thanks Leon, an eminently practical approach!   Good to know you are watching over us.  ;)

Always watching!
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: paulr on 26 February 2021, 10:01:37 AM
(https://compote.slate.com/images/6bb83d91-bd51-49c7-b054-550f5af8dc53.jpg?width=840)


;) ;D ;D
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Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 26 February 2021, 12:04:16 PM
Those Poles, wow
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Post by: Big Insect on 26 February 2021, 02:23:47 PM
I really like the SYW stuff myself
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: airhead on 26 February 2021, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 25 February 2021, 07:35:20 PM
Hi Leon,

I notice that in this year's competition there are a number of otherwise excellent entries which don't entirely conform to the rules (too many photos, too many vehicles).   I do hope their authors  are going to be encouraged to modify these entries before the completion date, rather than being disqualified afterwards?  It would be a great shame if any of these lovely pieces did not get considered over technicalities!

Hi mollinary/Leon,
There was me thinking I'd struggle posting the pics, easy as! Counting the number of tanks above 3 however has proved more problematic, lol.
Looked for a way to remove the post, but no luck. Could you please remove the post Leon? I will post an updated entry. Thanks for the prompt mollinary. Best Regards Airhead
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Leon on 26 February 2021, 03:23:41 PM
Quote from: airhead on 26 February 2021, 02:45:19 PM
Hi mollinary/Leon,
There was me thinking I'd struggle posting the pics, easy as! Counting the number of tanks above 3 however has proved more problematic, lol.
Looked for a way to remove the post, but no luck. Could you please remove the post Leon? I will post an updated entry. Thanks for the prompt mollinary. Best Regards Airhead

No worries, if you pop me the replacement image pics by email (or post them here) and I'll update the entry for you, no worries!
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Big Insect on 26 February 2021, 03:49:02 PM
I just need to work out how to upload my entries now  ;D
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: mollinary on 26 February 2021, 05:08:00 PM
Quote from: airhead on 26 February 2021, 02:45:19 PM
Hi mollinary/Leon,
There was me thinking I'd struggle posting the pics, easy as! Counting the number of tanks above 3 however has proved more problematic, lol.
Looked for a way to remove the post, but no luck. Could you please remove the post Leon? I will post an updated entry. Thanks for the prompt mollinary. Best Regards Airhead

You are more than welcome, I should have known Leon was on the case, but with everything he has to cope with I thought it would be worth pointing out. It would have been a crying shame if folk hadn't got to vote for your beautiful tanks!
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Post by: Techno II on 27 February 2021, 04:20:31 PM
Bloomin' 'eck !!!!

There 's SO many truly superb entries. I still don't know how I'll give my vote(s) in each catagory.

Cheers - Phil  :)
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Post by: paulr on 27 February 2021, 08:57:09 PM
Seconded
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Post by: Ray Rivers on 28 February 2021, 01:52:24 PM
Yep!

Lots of great entries.

Voting will be difficult.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 28 February 2021, 02:01:54 PM
My Hussites will be an acceptable compromise.  ;D
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Post by: Coenus Scaldingus on 28 February 2021, 02:44:29 PM
Too many terrific entries to comment on them individually, but as someone rather new to the 10mm scene, the competition definitely beautifully illustrates both the impressive factor of entire units and armies of 10mm miniatures while also highlighting the amount of detail that can still be achieved on them. Very inspiring stuff all around!

Might only have time to finish and photograph one or two entries for myself this year, but hope to be back next year with an entire army perhaps...
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 February 2021, 02:45:56 PM
Good afternoon to you new member.
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Post by: Steve J on 28 February 2021, 03:41:21 PM
Welcome on board and hope to see a few entries, if oyu have time to post today. I'm off to take my photos soon...
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Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 28 February 2021, 04:03:37 PM
Hello and welcome
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Post by: disco_roc on 28 February 2021, 04:52:19 PM
I upload my entry for the competition!. In the next weeks I'm going to upload to Youtube "How to paint" videos of confederate cavalry, infantry and artillery.
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Post by: mmcv on 28 February 2021, 06:16:41 PM
Phew, all my entries submitted!

Some absolutely fantastic stuff here, good luck everyone!  :D
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Techno II on 28 February 2021, 06:22:51 PM
Quote from: Coenus Scaldingus on 28 February 2021, 02:44:29 PM
Too many terrific entries to comment on them individually, but as someone rather new to the 10mm scene, the competition definitely beautifully illustrates both the impressive factor of entire units and armies of 10mm miniatures while also highlighting the amount of detail that can still be achieved on them. Very inspiring stuff all around!

Might only have time to finish and photograph one or two entries for myself this year, but hope to be back next year with an entire army perhaps...

Welcome from me, too !

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Steve J on 28 February 2021, 06:31:51 PM
Some superb work on display and this is going to be very hard to judge! Well done on all have entered and good luck to one and all :).
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: GregB on 28 February 2021, 07:29:42 PM
Hi everyone - thank you for the kind welcome. I am sorry to have been so slow to reply...I'm not exactly a genius at using these forums... ~X(

While I may be useless at posting replies in threads, I have been a keen fan of the forum and the painters here for some time. There is some really, really great work here, and it inspires all the time - you guys pulled me into 10mm in the first place! I started with FPW a couple years ago, and have gone to other eras from there...I hope to share more going forward.

Best of luck to all, and thanks again!

Greg
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Leon on 28 February 2021, 07:56:19 PM
There's some cracking stuff this year, good luck to everyone!  I'll be turning the entry threads off a little after midnight to give our Stateside members enough time to get their entries in.  Then we'll get the voting threads up at around midday on Monday.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 28 February 2021, 07:57:56 PM
Awesome stuff come in today
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: petercooman on 28 February 2021, 10:52:16 PM
Going to have a look through the threads once everything is in.

Sad i didn't have the time to get something togheter for this one. Next time!
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: chrishanley on 01 March 2021, 12:05:05 AM
Just managed to finish varnishing my last entry (while watching the Great Pottery Throw-up). Its dry and photographed and somehow got it up-loaded before the deadline.
Thankyou Leon for bringing the painting competition back. It is always great to see what can be done in this most wonderful scale and this year the standard is raised again.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: DHautpol on 01 March 2021, 03:07:49 PM
Many thanks to Leon for loading my photos for me.

Having had a look around, I think there are some stunning entries this time round.  Good luck everyone.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 March 2021, 03:12:05 PM
Some tricky choices and painful omissions to be made in voting.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Big Insect on 01 March 2021, 03:39:50 PM
A really great competition and some truly inspirational painting and basing styles.

I await the results with baited breath  :D
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Post by: Gareth121 on 01 March 2021, 04:08:52 PM
Just voted. That was very very difficult. There were some exceptional entries and the quality of painting is outstanding.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Westmarcher on 01 March 2021, 04:33:58 PM
 :'( :'( :'(  Far too difficult! And I've only just started voting! So many good entries!

Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 March 2021, 03:12:05 PM
Some tricky choices and painful omissions to be made in voting.

So true! You think you've done well producing a short list and then you realise you've still got to cut it down again!  #-o
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: magpiestear on 01 March 2021, 04:48:37 PM
So I've cast my votes, which was really tricky.  Some awesome entries, lots of tough choices to make.
I've enjoyed looking at all of the entries though!

Good luck to all................  :)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Big Insect on 01 March 2021, 04:50:33 PM
I've done my voting - so very hard - some great entries and innovative subject matter.

I'm inspired to start my 2022 entries already - maybe a CWC British Berlin force, in that wonderful Berlin Camo.

Or a Napoleonic French in Egypt army ... although I'd have to 'lobby' for some matching Brits to fight them - the ones in the long-tailed frock-coats and top-hat type shakos (& the distinctive French Camel Corps as well) (... and the Mameluks & Turks of course, for the Battle of the Pyramids) ... hmmm maybe that is too big an ask  :(

NOTE TO SELF ... "you said you were not going to start doing Napoleonics until everything else was finished!!!" ... well the Egyptian Campaign is not really napoleonics , honestly.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Steve J on 01 March 2021, 05:58:58 PM
Blimey, that was hard! Quite a few categories where I struggled to whittle the entries down to 5 votes. Good luck to one and all as so many entries deserved to win.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: mmcv on 01 March 2021, 06:19:58 PM
Ethical question... Would/do people vote for their own entries?

1) Never, that would be terribly bad form old chap!
2) Maybe, if I genuinely thought my entry was top 5...
3) Of course, you'd be mad not to!

I'm assuming it's anonymous so noone will know either way, but curious as to what the moral instinct is on it. I'd initially thought option 1, my wife leaned more on option 3, while 2 is an interesting middle ground...
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Westmarcher on 01 March 2021, 06:34:21 PM
Perhaps Leon will check if there's only 1 vote in it.   :-B

(for me, it's '1' btw)  O:-)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Aksu on 01 March 2021, 06:42:05 PM
Option 1 was taught to me as the only possible option when I was a small and impressionable boy. Haven't been able to shake out of it. I have no problems with others voting for their own entries, you should be happy and proud of your work :)
Cheers,
Aksu
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 01 March 2021, 06:43:19 PM
1 for me...
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 March 2021, 06:46:25 PM
If you believe in your work enough to submit it, you have a right to vote for it if you genuinely think it's good. The usual test applies: If I weren't involved, should I vote for this?
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Big Insect on 01 March 2021, 06:51:52 PM
Is that like asking a politician not to vote for themselves in their own constituency?  :d
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 01 March 2021, 07:12:50 PM
3 - but I have no morales or scruples!
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: mmcv on 01 March 2021, 07:13:25 PM
 
Quote from: Westmarcher on 01 March 2021, 06:34:21 PM
Perhaps Leon will check if there's only 1 vote in it.   :-B

(for me, it's '1' btw)  O:-)

Quote from: Ben Waterhouse on 01 March 2021, 06:43:19 PM
1 for me...

Quote from: Aksu on 01 March 2021, 06:42:05 PM
Option 1 was taught to me as the only possible option when I was a small and impressionable boy. Haven't been able to shake out of it. I have no problems with others voting for their own entries, you should be happy and proud of your work :)
Cheers,
Aksu

Yes certainly that was my initial instinct, but I'm never beyond re-evaluating moral and ethical instincts in balance with reason.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 March 2021, 06:46:25 PM
If you believe in your work enough to submit it, you have a right to vote for it if you genuinely think it's good. The usual test applies: If I weren't involved, should I vote for this?

A reasonable approach

Quote from: Big Insect on 01 March 2021, 06:51:52 PM
Is that like asking a politician not to vote for themselves in their own constituency?  :d

My wife's argument too. Though are politicians really the people we want to be taking moral guidance from?  ;D

Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 March 2021, 07:12:50 PM
3 - but I have no morales or scruples!

Case in point!
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Prophaniti on 01 March 2021, 07:28:41 PM
It's a '1' for me as well.

Lots of good entries and took a while to consider my options.  I will have to revisit the army category as that's quite hard to consider properly.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Gareth121 on 01 March 2021, 07:36:14 PM
I'm in the 1 camp.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 01 March 2021, 07:38:11 PM
Its the only votes I'm going to get!  ;D
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: paulr on 01 March 2021, 08:56:54 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 March 2021, 06:46:25 PM
If you believe in your work enough to submit it, you have a right to vote for it if you genuinely think it's good. The usual test applies: If I weren't involved, should I vote for this?

A difficult test to apply but a reasonable one  :-\
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Leon on 01 March 2021, 09:16:54 PM
I'd be in the Option 1 camp myself and would hope that others might find my work worthy of a vote here and there.  But as Kitty says, if you genuinely think that your entry is in the Top 5 then you should be able to vote for it.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Steve J on 01 March 2021, 09:18:59 PM
If I thought my work was genuinely in the top 5, I'd see no reason not to vote for it.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Scorpio_Rocks on 01 March 2021, 09:39:51 PM
Voting currently - am I alone in not seeing any pictures for Murat1970's entries?

PS firmly in the 1 camp
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: paulr on 01 March 2021, 09:41:20 PM
I could see pictures for Murat1970's entries
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Scorpio_Rocks on 01 March 2021, 09:44:53 PM
Quote from: paulr on 01 March 2021, 09:41:20 PM
I could see pictures for Murat1970's entries
Just me then i guess - strange I see all the others but cant see those in original thread or on Leon's summary
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Coenus Scaldingus on 01 March 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Option 1.5 for me: simply don't vote for any competitions I'm personally involved in! No ethical dilemma of whether or not it's subjectively or objectively or ethically the correct decision to vote/not vote for particular entries; just the enjoyment of purely admiring all the entries.
Which is yet another reason to try and compete in more categories next time, as while I like voting, deciding is far too difficult.  :D
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: mmcv on 01 March 2021, 09:55:47 PM
Quote from: Coenus Scaldingus on 01 March 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Option 1.5 for me: simply don't vote for any competitions I'm personally involved in! No ethical dilemma of whether or not it's subjectively or objectively or ethically the correct decision to vote/not vote for particular entries; just the enjoyment of purely admiring all the entries.
Which is yet another reason to try and compete in more categories next time, as while I like voting, deciding is far too difficult.  :D

Also a sensible approach!
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 01 March 2021, 10:20:18 PM
I have voted.
It was really hard work to select just five from so many excellent options.
I suffered no moral scruples since I didn't send an entry this year.

Big thanks to Leon for organising the show, and to all who entered.

The competition is a wonderful showcase for 10mm, showing how it bestrides detail and mass army (like a tiny colossus).
I certainly saw some creative painting styles/techniques which I really liked, but might never have thought of without the contest.

Good luck to all who entered.
And remember "It's the taking part".
Well, the taking part, the winning, crushing your enemies, driving them before you, etc etc.


I hope to be in it (though not necessarily to win it) in 2022.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: streetgang on 02 March 2021, 03:59:43 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 March 2021, 07:38:11 PM
Its the only votes I'm going to get!  ;D
Oh I don't know about that! I rather liked those French and Indian Canoes!
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: pierre the shy on 02 March 2021, 06:41:43 AM
Votes added....

Some very impressive painting there......way better than I could do.

Mind you I did enter a pair of WW1 trucks a couple of years ago that actually got 2 votes  :o

good luck and thanks to all who entered  :-bd
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Big Insect on 02 March 2021, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 02 March 2021, 06:41:43 AM
Votes added....

Some very impressive painting there......way better than I could do.

Mind you I did enter a pair of WW1 trucks a couple of years ago that actually got 2 votes  :o

good luck and thanks to all who entered  :-bd

2 votes is better than none and participation is better (IMHO) than not  :D

I am lobbying Leon to retain this and to extend the categories - the pre-C20th single base infantry category was very hard - I'd be asking for a split between pre & post fire arms myself (with some allowances around the cross-over maybe.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 02 March 2021, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Big Insect on 02 March 2021, 10:05:41 AM
2 votes is better than none and participation is better (IMHO) than not  :D

I am lobbying Leon to retain this and to extend the categories - the pre-C20th single base infantry category was very hard - I'd be asking for a split between pre & post fire arms myself (with some allowances around the cross-over maybe.

I'm not sure where you'd split it, so here are a couple of vague suggestionms.

1. The "Firearm" axis:    No Firearms (Ancient and Medieval) / Firearms mixed with Pikes (Pike and shotte)  / Almost all foot have a firearm (Horse and musket).

2. The "Uniform" axis     Most foot not wearing uniforms (Ancient and Medieval) / Most foot wearing Uniforms (Pike and shotte and later).


The Uniform axis is probably more relevant to a painting competition, but I think the problems with finer subclasses are apparent.
I can already think of a host of exceptions that would end up in unexpected categories.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Big Insect on 02 March 2021, 10:25:06 AM
I agree Steve ... and what is a uniform ... as we see uniformed units back to the Hellenistic/Successor period and further back in China.

I like the idea of a Pike & Musket & before v a Horse & Musket later period - you'll always get exceptions but maybe a pre 1700 and post 1700 to end of C.19th.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: mmcv on 02 March 2021, 10:29:31 AM
Indeed, it's interesting that 20th century foot has it's own category, while the pre 20th century category is huge and I'm having a hard time making choices from so much excellence!  ~X(

The forum resources are split as Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680), Resources - Firelocks to Maxims (1680 - 1900), Resources - 20th Century. Which is maybe a neat break up, though I'd be in favour of Ancient/Medieval, Renaissance/Early Modern (1500-1788), Long 19th Century (1789 until just before WW1), 20th Century (WW1 and beyond)

This would then reflect the distribution of ranges across the Pendraken estate, given there's a large number of Renaissance/Early Modern ranges, then all the 18thC, Colonial, etc it seems sensible to have it on it's own rather than split between ancient and modern.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 02 March 2021, 10:52:59 AM
Napoleonic is also soo pretty
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Steve J on 02 March 2021, 11:00:48 AM
The 20thC was given its own category as it could never compete against the colourful uniforms and lines of troops of earlier periods. Splitting pre-20thC into various periods has its merits, but drawing the line of each would be difficult, unless you used the Pendraken Catalogue as a basis.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Big Insect on 02 March 2021, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: Steve J on 02 March 2021, 11:00:48 AM
The 20thC was given its own category as it could never compete against the colourful uniforms and lines of troops of earlier periods. Splitting pre-20thC into various periods has its merits, but drawing the line of each would be difficult, unless you used the Pendraken Catalogue as a basis.

That would seem sensible - as this is a Pendraken painting competition  :)
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 02 March 2021, 03:23:40 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 02 March 2021, 10:29:31 AM
Indeed, it's interesting that 20th century foot has it's own category, while the pre 20th century category is huge and I'm having a hard time making choices from so much excellence!  ~X(

The forum resources are split as Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680), Resources - Firelocks to Maxims (1680 - 1900), Resources - 20th Century. Which is maybe a neat break up, though I'd be in favour of Ancient/Medieval, Renaissance/Early Modern (1500-1788), Long 19th Century (1789 until just before WW1), 20th Century (WW1 and beyond)

This would then reflect the distribution of ranges across the Pendraken estate, given there's a large number of Renaissance/Early Modern ranges, then all the 18thC, Colonial, etc it seems sensible to have it on it's own rather than split between ancient and modern.

20th century makes sense.
By then even the stubbornest, stiff moustache from the Staff College had noticed that concealment was an improvement over leaden death.

(Well all, except fans of Les Pantalons Rouges).


Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: fred. on 02 March 2021, 07:10:13 PM
This is probably just reprising what is said above

Separating out 20th Century makes sense due to the drab uniforms (again hard to have date based rules as the British where in Khaki in the late 1800s but the French where still in bright uniforms till 1915)

If there is a need to split the earlier group, I'd suggest going for around 1600 as the split, basically so that you have armoured troops in the earlier part and the start of uniforms in the later part. But it still feels somewhat arbitrary
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Leon on 02 March 2021, 08:46:40 PM
I'll have a think for the next competition.  Splitting them is easy enough but we'd need to stump up another £60 in prizes and go knocking on some doors for another bonus prize!
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 02 March 2021, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: Leon on 02 March 2021, 08:46:40 PM
I'll have a think for the next competition.  Splitting them is easy enough but we'd need to stump up another £60 in prizes and go knocking on some doors for another bonus prize!

We were hoping you wouldn't spot that...
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 02 March 2021, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: Big Insect on 02 March 2021, 10:25:06 AM
I agree Steve ... and what is a uniform ... as we see uniformed units back to the Hellenistic/Successor period and further back in China.

I like the idea of a Pike & Musket & before v a Horse & Musket later period - you'll always get exceptions but maybe a pre 1700 and post 1700 to end of C.19th.

Ahh yes: Irregulars and Regulars - as per the Barkerese dialect.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Scolty on 03 March 2021, 10:28:11 AM
Hi Leon,
Thanks for re-sizing the photo. Sorry about the poor quality. That's what happens when you buy your wife a new camera!
I was hoping to re-submit but work issues unfortunately took precedence.
Only now getting a chance to view the entries and voting.
As others have stated - fantastic work on show. Always an inspiration.

Scolty
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Leon on 03 March 2021, 10:47:16 AM
Quote from: Scolty on 03 March 2021, 10:28:11 AM
Thanks for re-sizing the photo. Sorry about the poor quality. That's what happens when you buy your wife a new camera!
I was hoping to re-submit but work issues unfortunately took precedence.
Only now getting a chance to view the entries and voting.
As others have stated - fantastic work on show. Always an inspiration.

No worries, if you've got another image to hand pop it over and I'll edit it in for you.
Title: Re: The painting competition comments thread.
Post by: Scolty on 03 March 2021, 03:16:41 PM
Cheers Leon.

Will try and get some pics posted (properly) to the photos section in due course.
Currently working on AWI and WoTR. Looking forward to the Peninsular stuff!!

Scolty