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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Ithoriel on 01 November 2020, 03:57:42 AM

Title: Tollense - revised view
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 November 2020, 03:57:42 AM
It is being reported that Tollense is now being considered as a possible massacre of a trading caravan rather than a battle site.

Which I had suggested to friends as a possibility when the thing first hit the headlines. I'm beginning to regret letting "wiser heads" persuade me I was wrong :)

http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/59912
Title: Re: Tollense - revised view
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 November 2020, 03:59:53 AM
"Lances"? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Tollense - revised view
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 November 2020, 10:08:45 AM
Would lancea, albeit a little anachronistic, or even λόγχη suit sir better? :)
Title: Re: Tollense - revised view
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 November 2020, 10:12:48 AM
Wow.
Its a robbery!
Must have been worth millions in todays money.
Title: Re: Tollense - revised view
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 November 2020, 11:26:46 AM
Greatly. But, as the writings of Dr Johnson so well demonstrate, English is not Latin.
Title: Re: Tollense - revised view
Post by: fsn on 01 November 2020, 11:29:25 AM
No, it is infinitely superior.
Title: Re: Tollense - revised view
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 November 2020, 11:31:45 AM
We agree for once. :o
Title: Re: Tollense - revised view
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 November 2020, 11:38:06 AM
I thought we'd pretty much agreed that, for the great mass of people, a pointy stick is a pointy stick, whatever it's length, and that therefore, with the honourable exception of a tiny minority of the nerdiest MilHist nerds, people consider all words describing a pointy stick as interchangeable?   
Title: Re: Tollense - revised view
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 November 2020, 11:41:15 AM
If you'd grown up in South Africa like me and seen what a primitive and undisciplined lingo like Afrikaans does to people's minds, you'd be more grateful to English for what it offers you!
Title: Re: Tollense - revised view
Post by: Waremblem on 01 November 2020, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 November 2020, 03:59:53 AM
"Lances"? I don't think so.

LOL - that was my first thought as well! It immediately made me suspicious. I suspect many ancient battles would contain the bodies of large numbers of non-combatants. In many cases, these were nomadic tribes moving together in a group.