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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Firelocks to Maxims (1680 - 1900) => Topic started by: Glorfindel on 07 July 2020, 09:20:32 PM

Title: Plans-Reliefs
Post by: Glorfindel on 07 July 2020, 09:20:32 PM
I remember seeing an article in either Battlegames or Mini Wargames about the historic 'Plans-Reliefs' held in Lille.   Essentially, huge detailed 3D models
of a city that would allow visualisation and help plan a potential siege.

Totally forgot about it until I came across again today.   A simple google image search throws up many examples with some superb large scale modelling.

How I would love to have a game on one of these !

Just search for 'Plans-Reliefs'.   Well worth a gander.


Phil
Title: Re: Plans-Reliefs
Post by: mollinary on 07 July 2020, 09:53:23 PM
Eurostar goes direct to Lille!
Title: Re: Plans-Reliefs
Post by: Scorpio_Rocks on 07 July 2020, 10:16:20 PM
My understanding is that the Lille museum only holds 15 examples from a collection of over 100 held and displayed in a wing of the Army Museum in Paris (Musée des Plans-Reliefs, Les Invalides)
Title: Re: Plans-Reliefs
Post by: kipt on 07 July 2020, 10:44:08 PM
Les Invalides does have a great collection of the reliefs; upstairs if I remember correctly.  I bought a book showing the collection (although at the moment I can't seem to locate in my bookshelves...)

It might be available for purchase by contacting the museum(?)
Title: Re: Plans-Reliefs
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 07 July 2020, 10:47:53 PM
Am I the only one thinking "I wonder what scale those are".
Title: Re: Plans-Reliefs
Post by: hammurabi70 on 08 July 2020, 10:30:56 AM
Quote from: kipt on 07 July 2020, 10:44:08 PM
Les Invalides does have a great collection of the reliefs; upstairs if I remember correctly.  I bought a book showing the collection (although at the moment I can't seem to locate in my bookshelves...)

It might be available for purchase by contacting the museum(?)

Yes, brilliant stuff but tucked away in the alcoves of the loft so you expect to knock into some bats at any moment.
Title: Re: Plans-Reliefs
Post by: Risaldar Singh on 08 October 2020, 08:00:17 AM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 07 July 2020, 10:47:53 PM
Am I the only one thinking "I wonder what scale those are".
The scale is 1/600.
Title: Re: Plans-Reliefs
Post by: onyrevient on 08 October 2020, 11:42:14 AM
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 08 July 2020, 10:30:56 AM
Yes, brilliant stuff but tucked away in the alcoves of the loft so you expect to knock into some bats at any moment.

not really now, there is a new space in the museum.

I Have have spent so many time au Invalides when I was teen  ....
Title: Re: Plans-Reliefs
Post by: Jemima Fawr on 17 October 2021, 11:03:03 AM
The Musee des Plans-Reliefs is a must-see if you're ever in Les Invalides (it's in the attic-space).  The 200-odd models were built for Louis XIV and the Louvre Galleries were actually to house them!  A few have been lost over the years and some are on display elsewhere (such as the aforementioned Lille), but most are in the attic of Les Invalides.