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After many months of discussion and tweaks behind the scenes, the Blitzkrieg Commander IV Errata sheets are finally here! We've split the corrections into 2 separate pdf files, one for the rules themselves and one for the army lists. With the rules errata, we've made sure to give the page number of the correction along with the sentence, paragragh or table that is being amended, to avoid any confusion over which word or number should be altered! The lists errata is fairly self-explanatory although we're sure there will still be some areas which might be up for debate!
We've managed to address around 95% of the feedback and comments we've had since the launch, with the remaining 5% requiring a bit more thought and some playtests to see if a change is needed. We'll continue to monitor the feedback as people play the game more and we can respond to any other queries as they come in.
No doubt there will be some queries on this, but please make sure to give the file a good read-through, along with the wider context in the rules document as well. There has been a lot of back and forth on some of the points raised and in some cases there will be folks who like the fix that we've implemented while others prefer the original version. As always with any set of rules, if you prefer to play a particular rule a certain way, and your friends/group/club are on board with that, then go for it! The bottom line is to enjoy your games!
BKC-IV Rules Errata: HERE (https://www.dropbox.com/s/clmrcptzkbnpi9z/BKC-IVRulesErrataMar2020.pdf?dl=0)
BKC-IV Army List Errata: HERE (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qzrvfsnadlb852a/BKC-IVArmyListsErrata.pdf?dl=0)
Previous Errata: HERE (https://www.dropbox.com/s/u047325avkhk6j9/BKC-IVRulesErrata.pdf?dl=0)
Thanks for all the work going into the BKC stuff.
Good job!!
Yeehaw! ;D
QuoteNo doubt there will be some queries on this, but please make sure to give the file a good read-through, along with the wider context in the rules document as well. There has been a lot of back and forth on some of the points raised and in some cases there will be folks who like the fix that we've implemented while others prefer the original version. As always with any set of rules, if you prefer to play a particular rule a certain way, and your friends/group/club are on board with that, then go for it! The bottom line is to enjoy your games!
Well said Leon. I've always tweaked BKC to suit my view of things and it works for me, but not necessarily for others. Given the scale of this conflict, the various theatres, troops, weapons used etc, you cannot cover every possible situation. So a good dose of common sense will invariably resolve any 'issues' IMHO.
I notice now that, regardless of doctrine, for all it says: "When using (optional) Fixed Formations, HQs can only issue orders to units within their own formation."
In BKCIV it used to be:
Rigid: no orders from HQs across formations
Normal: orders from HQs across formations but with a -1 penalty
Flexible: orders from HQs across formations have no penalty.
Is the errata right?
No - not an Errata, it is a Change.
In a Fixed Formation Game HQ's cannot order units outside their own formations regardless of their Tac.Doc.
CO's can, but subject to their Tac.Doc. may be subject to penalties (see below):
Tactical Doctrine - Page 74 Adjust table to read:
Normal Tac.Doc. • When using (optional) Fixed Formations, HQs can only issue orders to units within their own formation.
The CO may issue orders to units in other formations, but will be subject to a -1CV command penalty when doing so.
Rigid Tac.Doc. • When using (optional) Fixed Formations, HQs can only issue orders to units in their own formation.
The CO may issue orders to units in other formations, but will be subject to a -1CV command penalty when doing so.
Flexible Tac.Doc. • When using (optional) Fixed Formations, HQs can only issue orders to units in their own formation.
The CO may issue orders to units in other formations without penalty when doing so.
Cheers
Mark
I didn't see that change coming. It doesn't seem to be all that reflective of German (flexible) as opposed to Russian (rigid) doctrine. Not much real difference bar what the CO can do. Seems to be an unnecessary change. Ho hum.
Well. I've had a good read and I like what I see. Got to give the changes a go on the tabletop of course.
Quote from: Dr Dave on 15 November 2019, 04:45:11 PM
I didn't see that change coming. It doesn't seem to be all that reflective of German (flexible) as opposed to Russian (rigid) doctrine. Not much real difference bar what the CO can do. Seems to be an unnecessary change. Ho hum.
Then, I would suggest that the answer would be to NOT use Fixed Formations, if you want your HQs to be able to order units in other formations.
Flexible Tac.Doc. has other benefits. Rigid has its own specific restrictions and advantages. There is a very subtle balance between CV and Tac.Doc. and a higher CV HQ in a Flexible.Tac.Doc. army already has significant advantages.
I'd also suggest that it was rare for even German formation commanders to order units in other formations, if the commander(s) of those other formations were still alive or in communication with their forces.
Thanks
Mark
I've had chance to look at the BKC IV errata, and there are a few things that seem to be wrong in them, or is it just me?
1. Page 1 - the reference to page 20, in the line above Profile Page 8, I think should be page 78 when it discusses Low Profile?
2. Page 2 – Terrain, Target Unit Table-Page 15, that should be Page 13?
3. Page 6 – Field defences table. I like the changes in this, but doesn't it disagree with the Saves Table on page 36, and the Fortifications table at the bottom of page 11?
There are also a few typos which I haven't detailed.
As its your first post Matt - goad moaning !
Vehicle scrape has a save of "15" - Should say "5" right?
On a d6, I suspect so !
Quote from: ianrs54 on 23 November 2019, 08:26:28 AM
As its your first post Matt - goad moaning !
Same from me, Matt....Welcome to the forum. :)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Matt1tibby on 22 November 2019, 11:44:27 PM
I've had chance to look at the BKC IV errata, and there are a few things that seem to be wrong in them, or is it just me?
1. Page 1 - the reference to page 20, in the line above Profile Page 8, I think should be page 78 when it discusses Low Profile?
2. Page 2 – Terrain, Target Unit Table-Page 15, that should be Page 13?
3. Page 6 – Field defences table. I like the changes in this, but doesn't it disagree with the Saves Table on page 36, and the Fortifications table at the bottom of page 11?
There are also a few typos which I haven't detailed.
Errata on Errata - that might be a 1st - so thank you Matt
I am sure we can make those changes easily as this is a PDF version
Thanks for being so eagle-eyed
Cheers
Mark
Thanks everyone for the welcome!
Sorry its a moaning debut.... I had seen the save of 15, but missed it when I typed the message.. Is that an errata in the errata document errata message?
Quote from: Matt1tibby on 22 November 2019, 11:44:27 PM
2. Page 2 – Terrain, Target Unit Table-Page 15, that should be Page 13?
There are also a few typos which I haven't detailed.
That one is definitely just a typo, I'll get the pdf edited. If you've got a list of any other typos in there, drop to me in an email and I'll make sure that they get fixed.
Quote from: Dr Dave on 23 November 2019, 11:15:46 AM
Vehicle scrape has a save of "15" - Should say "5" right?
I'll get that one fixed as well!
Hello and welcome
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Will you just hurry up and get on with it, Will.
The suspense is killing me.
Cheers - Phil ;)
The typos I mentioned:
Page 4 - final paragraph in the Flamethrowers section "No battlegroup may contain more that 3", should be "more than"
Page 5 - Advance to contact second paragraph "and an assault with occur" should be "will occur"
Hi Leon
I have the hardcopy rulebook but was just wondering if the errata stuff has been incorporated into the PDF version (trying to amend the book is quite hard if not impossible).
Cheers Paul
Quote from: T13A on 12 January 2020, 05:23:28 PM
I have the hardcopy rulebook but was just wondering if the errata stuff has been incorporated into the PDF version (trying to amend the book is quite hard if not impossible).
Cheers Paul
It will be but I've not uploaded that to Wargame Vault just yet. Some of the Errata text has pushed other text off a few pages, so I need to go through and do some formatting work to make it all fit properly. Once that's done I'll get it converted to pdf, add in the hyperlinks and get it uploaded to Wargame Vault. Everyone who bought a pdf copy will get an email to let you know when it's available to download.
Hi Leon,
I was just wondering what the position is on the updated/amended errata? We're delaying playing the rules until they're ready...
Thanks Matt
Quote from: Matt1tibby on 27 February 2020, 11:32:24 PM
I was just wondering what the position is on the updated/amended errata? We're delaying playing the rules until they're ready...
Is that the Errata document or the updated pdf from Wargame Vault? The Errata doc is available here: https://pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/BKC-IVRulesErrata.pdf so no worries on that front. There will be further updates to that as we progress, but we'll let folks know here when that happens.
The Wargame Vault pdf is due to be done but we're just waiting on a decision on the Infantry profiles query raised here: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19439.0.html Once we've figured out which way to go with that, I can finalise the document and get it uploaded to WV.
Leon,
Thanks. It was the errata doc, I have the link, but I was wondering if/when it was being updated to fix the errors discussed above?
Thanks, Matt
Those will be included when I do the next update, it should be middle of next week hopefully.
Thanks Leon :)
The updated Errata sheet is now available here: http://bit.ly/BKCErrataMar20
Changes include the End Phase wording and some corrections to the various Save value tables across the rules.
Have these changes been put into the Wargames Vault PDF yet ?
Quote from: Amra on 12 January 2021, 09:44:31 AM
Have these changes been put into the Wargames Vault PDF yet ?
Yep, it was uploaded in March '20 so the current version is the updated one. If you bought prior to that date you might need to go into your Library and download the newer file.
Fantastic,thanks
Bugger ,my download is post that date but doesn't include the errata
There's no different download ? Maybe I should just reload it ....
Quote from: Amra on 13 January 2021, 06:50:14 AM
Bugger ,my download is post that date but doesn't include the errata
There's no different download ? Maybe I should just reload it ....
I've just sent a fresh link to it for you so if you can give that a go and see if it works?
Bingo. That did it ,
Thanks so much
Quote from: Amra on 13 January 2021, 03:40:15 PM
Bingo. That did it ,
Thanks so much
Excellent, that's good to hear!
I think the problem is the old version is still on Vault , so you get both automatically on purchase .
May I suggest you only have the current version available ?
That way no-nothing noobs like me won't get confused :)
Quote from: Amra on 14 January 2021, 07:04:16 AM
I think the problem is the old version is still on Vault , so you get both automatically on purchase .
May I suggest you only have the current version available ?
That way no-nothing noobs like me won't get confused :)
I'm not sure if I'm able to remove it to be honest, I'll have to go and check on that.
Quote from: Amra on 14 January 2021, 07:04:16 AM
May I suggest you only have the current version available ?
That way no-nothing noobs like me won't get confused :)
No, Please leave both versions up there. THere are quite a few of us still using BKC2
You should be able to have both versions available as they are separate publications and will have different ISBN numbers
Quote from: Orcs on 14 January 2021, 09:52:26 AM
No, Please leave both versions up there. THere are quite a few of us still using BKC2
You should be able to have both versions available as they are separate publications and will have different ISBN numbers
Amra means both versions of BKC-IV, the original pdf and then the amended one with the errata in it. BKC2 is a separate document and isn't affected by this, so we're all good there.
I don't k ow of this is the right place to post but it seems this wording is wrong here in the infantry support section - pg 45.
"When using opportunity fire during the initiative phase..."
To me this is confusing, you only use opportunity fire in the command phase.
Should it read, "When firing during the initiative phase..."
Quote from: Itinerant Hobbyist on 11 January 2022, 06:28:00 PMI don't k ow of this is the right place to post but it seems this wording is wrong here in the infantry support section - pg 45.
"When using opportunity fire during the initiative phase..."
To me this is confusing, you only use opportunity fire in the command phase.
Should it read, "When firing during the initiative phase..."
I think that might just be a terminology error, you can use Opportunity Fire in the Initiative Phase but only when it's in response to an enemy action. So if you decide to assault your opponent as an initiative action, your opponent can choose to use opportunity fire in response to your assault. I think the confusion comes as the header calls it 'Response Fire' instead, under the Initiative Phase on page 20.
But you can't opp fire when someone moves or fires in the initiative, correct?
Quote from: Itinerant Hobbyist on 12 January 2022, 03:34:19 PMBut you can't opp fire when someone moves or fires in the initiative, correct?
I believe that's correct, yep.
Hi.
In my copy of the rulebook there' is differents profile for the sdkfz 251/5 and sdfkz251/7. In afrika Korps versión it has transport (1) and in page 128 and 131 it hasn't transport capability.
Thanks for your great work.