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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: FierceKitty on 30 October 2019, 07:27:40 AM

Title: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 October 2019, 07:27:40 AM
These are the complexions one finds in the armies of Jugurtha, Micipsa, Massinissa, and indeed Hannibal and Scipio.
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: mollinary on 30 October 2019, 07:36:49 AM
I hadn't realised they contained such a high proportion of women!
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 October 2019, 07:43:46 AM
Your point.  ;D
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: Techno on 30 October 2019, 07:53:39 AM
Anyone else see a resemblance to a famous English footy player in one of those images ? :-\

Cheers  - Phil
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: Westmarcher on 30 October 2019, 09:22:45 AM
.... er .... ok .... which one is Bobby Charlton? 

(is it the baldy one without the comb over?)
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: Techno on 30 October 2019, 06:35:05 PM
It's the bloke in the fourth row down...and third from the left, that reminded me of someone, Davy

(Now......The more I look at it, the less the photo looks like him !!  ;D ;D ;D)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: mollinary on 30 October 2019, 07:01:58 PM
Quote from: Techno on 30 October 2019, 06:35:05 PM
It's the bloke in the fourth row down...and third from the left, that reminded me of someone, Davy

(Now......The more I look at it, the less the photo looks like him !!  ;D ;D ;D)

Cheers - Phil

Looks like Danny John-Jules to me  - Meow!  The one above migt be mistaken for Vincent Kompany, perhaps?
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 30 October 2019, 07:45:55 PM
It's a handy resource, many thanks.

Bear in mind there's been a coupe of millennia of migration featuring more Romans, Vandals, Byzantines, Arab Conquest, Barbary Corsairs, Ottomans, Spanish, Portuguese, French - and probably more.

Anybody claiming that your colours are wrong is going to have a had time proving it.
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: fsn on 30 October 2019, 09:27:53 PM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 30 October 2019, 07:45:55 PM
Bear in mind there's been a coupe of millennia of migration featuring more Romans, Vandals, Byzantines, Arab Conquest, Barbary Corsairs, Ottomans, Spanish, Portuguese, French - and probably more.
That's what I was going to say!
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: mollinary on 30 October 2019, 10:00:06 PM
Quote from: fsn on 30 October 2019, 09:27:53 PM
That's what I was going to say!

So was I, but I went for a cheap laugh instead!
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: Ithoriel on 30 October 2019, 10:32:55 PM
Alexander's Greeks described the Indians as "light skinned like Egyptians."

Populations have changed. Go figure.
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 October 2019, 01:26:49 AM
I'm having lunch with a Hindu friend today. She's as light-skinned as I am.
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 October 2019, 01:27:41 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 30 October 2019, 10:32:55 PM
Alexander's Greeks described the Indians as "light skinned like Egyptians."

Populations have changed. Go figure.

Not, I submit, to the exent of turning from Negro to the range above.
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 31 October 2019, 09:33:40 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 30 October 2019, 10:32:55 PM
Alexander's Greeks described the Indians as "light skinned like Egyptians."

Populations have changed. Go figure.

It also works the other way, since we don't know where the Greeks drew the line between light and dark skinned.

A Greek trader who conducted commerce with a hellenised Egyptian ruling class would encounter people who looks quite like him.
The fellahein of the upper Nile valley would have far darker skin, but still light skinned compared to the Nubians.

Forgive my musings, I started this hobby when paint suppliers provided a single skin tone called "Flesh".
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 October 2019, 10:17:49 AM
What I now have to buy as "light orange" (which it certainly isn't).
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: mollinary on 31 October 2019, 10:58:00 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 31 October 2019, 10:17:49 AM
What I now have to buy as "light orange" (which it certainly isn't).

Painting the Donald?
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: Techno on 31 October 2019, 12:10:18 PM
Stop it !  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: Orcs on 31 October 2019, 01:22:56 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 31 October 2019, 01:26:49 AM
I'm having lunch with a Hindu friend today. She's as light-skinned as I am.

Yes I had a Sikh friend who was lighter skinned than me ( I have some Italian ancestry). So its all relative.
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 31 October 2019, 03:36:27 PM
Yes, it's all to do with your relatives...
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: Orcs on 20 October 2020, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 31 October 2019, 01:26:49 AM
I'm having lunch with a Hindu friend today. She's as light-skinned as I am.

I had a Sikh friend who was significantly paler than I am.   I have some Italian ancestry.
Title: Re: For anyone thinking Carthage, Rome, Numidia....
Post by: Raider4 on 20 October 2020, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: Orcs on 20 October 2020, 10:06:07 AM
I had a Sikh friend who was significantly paler than I am.   I have some Italian ancestry.

Didn't you post this already, like a year ago?


Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 31 October 2019, 09:33:40 AM
Forgive my musings, I started this hobby when paint suppliers provided a single skin tone called "Flesh".

Same here, Airfix M7. Even at the time I thought it looked nothing like any flesh colour I'd seen in real life. Every colour called "Flesh" - and I assume they're going for Northern European as the base here - has generally looked far too pink to my eyes.