We are excited to announce that we've recently purchased the rights to all of the TB Line 10mm ranges, previously owned by Aster Wargame in Italy. All of the moulds were shipped to Pendraken HQ this past week and we'll start checking them over soon. We'd like to thank Corrado at Aster Wargame for offering us the opportunity to buy these ranges and for all of his time during the purchase process.
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Who are TB Line?
Tridente Bologna released their first 10mm ranges in 2008, starting with a range of Teutonic Knights. Over the years they added Islamic and Eastern European opponents, plus some Mongols, as well as moving back into the Ancients period with ranges for the Punic Wars. The ranges were unavailable for several periods of time in recent years, until 2016, when the ranges were sold to Aster Wargame in Italy and brought back into production.
How do they match up with Pendraken figures?
Very well, with only a minor difference in height among the foot figures and slightly bigger horses for the cavalry. The horses are all separate castings which is a good thing for us as we might be able to use them in other ranges going forward. Stylewise, they're again very similar to our newer ranges with a good level of detail on them. The only noticeable difference so far is that the TB Line sculptor used a thicker wire for spears/javelins, which is more apparent on the web photos then on the castings.
What ranges will be available?
- Republican Romans (9 codes)
- Carthaginians (4 codes)
- Numidian (1 code)
- Iberians (4 codes)
- Epirotes (1 code)
- Italic (4 codes)
- Gauls (4 codes)
- Middle Age Europe (3 codes)
- Middle Age Eastern Europe (7 codes)
- Middle Ages Islam (8 codes)
- Teutonics (8 codes)
- Mongols (7 codes)
When will they be on sale again?
First we need to check everything over and catalogue all of the moulds to make sure they are all casting OK. The moulds look to be in good condition, but they have all been made using a lower temperature rubber whcih doesn't usually have a long life span. We'll be doing them in batches, so we should be able to add them to the website one range at a time. The only delays to this process would be if we find any damaged moulds that need replacing.
Will you be changing anything?
There's a few things we need to look at before considering any changes. Firstly the command packs were previously only 3-man groups so we need to have a look at the moulds and see if we can change those to larger 15 or 30 figure packs to match in with our own ranges. We'll also be having a good look at the pricing of them, as they were previously priced at €7.00 per 30 foot / 12 cavalry. That equates to a little over £6.00 currently, so we'll be bringing that down to somewhere around £5.50 for 30 foot / 15 cavalry.
Will you be adding to these ranges in the future?
There are no plans for new figures/ranges in these lines at the moment. The purchase of these ranges fills some useful gaps in the Pendraken ranges (Middle Ages Teutonics, Eastern Europe and Islamics) and adds some nice variety to our Ancients ranges as well, but any future sculpts would likely be done by our sculptors and added as Pendraken items.
What if I want some now?!
There is still some stock available from Aster Wargame in Italy: https://www.asterwargame.com/collections/tb-line It wasn't viable to ship all of these blisters over to the UK, so it was easier for them to continue selling the remaining stock at their end. Once they've sold out the codes will be removed from the Aster site and the figures will only be available through us here at Pendraken.
And that's everything! If there's any questions please let us know and we'll look forward to getting these up for sale!
Here's a few images of the Middle East Islamics as well, just in case people haven't seen them before:
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Great news.
These are cracking figures - I have lots of the Islamic figures (the ones that make up many of the above photos).
Cor blimey! Good effort chaps!
Excellent news.
From my perspective (and I'm assuming other non-Europeans) it also means that the postage that Aster was charging, €25.00, won't come into consideration now when I think about stocking up the lead mountain :D.
Looking forward to the release of the Eastern Europeans and the Islamics :D.
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Good news. Those figures are very good, and I speak as one who's got a few.
Yes - very interested in the Islamics as well. Need them for Tangier and as an Aztec anxiety assuagement :A-)
These are a bit nice
Congratulations - good company news.
Great news and eagerly looking forward to the Eastern European range being available :)
B*GG*R, so much for rationalising and reducing the Lead pile
That's a great acquisition, you are just not going to be popular with Mrs Orcs ;D
Excellent additions !
Cheers - Phil
What excellent news - lovely looking figures and a great acquisition. A few years back I downloaded their Ancients Rules, so here's an incentive to maybe use them.
That's fantastic news Leon well done indeed
Take care
Andy
I agree.
So, now ... what about historical warband rules ?.. ;)
Well done! A cracking range of lovely figures only let down by unreliable delivery and delivery costs. Can't wait for when we can order some of these with confidence
Yeah Baby! As Leon mentioned, the height of the infantry figures is slightly larger than most of Pendraken's foot figures but this makes them an excellent match with the fantasy lines.
They fit right in on the tabletop.
I'd previously looked these but resisted, might not be able to in the future now!
The gauls are a must buy.
In fact, everything is beautiful.
Congratulations on a superb coup ;)
Just be careful you dont draw the attention of the authorities for cornering more than your fair share of the 10mm market..... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: sunjester on 23 July 2017, 02:15:37 PM
resisted,
Sorry, but I do not understand this word, and I am not sure you do either. :)
Excellent news. Look forward to buying.... well... all of it really :D
Wonderful addition. Great news :-bd
Are they ready yet?.......
Only joking :D.........
No, really, are they ready yet?........
Woah! Very nice!
Excellent work and a very good decision!
Since I've mentioned them, but no-one else has, can I verify - are those bloody great (in all senses) Carthaginian Elephants in the mix too? Huge buggers and damned impressive compared to every other '10mm' scale effalump I've seen.
Quote from: Wulf on 25 July 2017, 01:45:32 PM
Since I've mentioned them, but no-one else has, can I verify - are those bloody great (in all senses) Carthaginian Elephants in the mix too? Huge buggers and damned impressive compared to every other '10mm' scale effalump I've seen.
Yep, those are in there as well! I did notice the size of them and think 'Hmm... these will make some cracking Fantasy heffalumps!'
Quote from: Leon on 25 July 2017, 02:10:13 PM
Yep, those are in there as well! I did notice the size of them and think 'Hmm... these will make some cracking Fantasy heffalumps!'
:) 8)
So I'll be able to get a 10mm Crusader army? :)
hi Pendraken peeps, what are the chances that the Teutonics and European knights will be processed & order-able in time for Reading Warfare in November!!??
many thanks :0)
Quote from: lawhock76 on 17 August 2017, 11:01:19 AM
hi Pendraken peeps, what are the chances that the Teutonics and European knights will be processed & order-able in time for Reading Warfare in November!!??
many thanks :0)
Leon is on holiday until the middle of next week so expect a delay on him replying to your question
Cheers
Ian
Quote from: lawhock76 on 17 August 2017, 11:01:19 AM
hi Pendraken peeps, what are the chances that the Teutonics and European knights will be processed & order-able in time for Reading Warfare in November!!??
Not sure at the moment I'm afraid, I need to get on top of all the other releases that are still stuck in the system. I'm hoping to get through quite a bit in September and October, we should have a new caster starting for us soon which will alleviate some of the pressure on the guys and we can start getting some other jobs done.
Quote from: Leon on 24 August 2017, 12:58:09 AM
...we should have a new caster starting for us soon which will alleviate some of the pressure on the guys and we can start getting some other jobs done.
That's good news :)
Quote from: Leon on 24 August 2017, 12:58:09 AM
... we should have a new caster starting for us soon ...
Do you mean a wizard? Has Gandalf come to the caverns of Middle Borough? :o 8)
Just to update on this, we've been checking all of the moulds and unfortunately it looks like we'll need to make new production moulds for everything. This of course means that the ranges won't be available as quickly as planned, but we're still hoping to have the first of them online before the end of the year. We'll try and release them one at a time, with the Islamics, Teutonics and Russians being the first ones I'd think.
...after the real priorities, naturally.
Yes, after those. I am signing up for the TB Islamics and the new Arab horse, however.
Need to preorder the Teutonics, take my money!!!
Quote from: fsn on 24 August 2017, 07:46:12 AM
Do you mean a wizard? Has Gandalf come to the caverns of Middle Borough? :o 8)
Yes. He'll be there for a spell. :)
Quote from: fsn on 24 August 2017, 07:46:12 AM
Do you mean a wizard? Has Gandalf come to the caverns of Middle Borough? :o 8)
There is a Gandalf registered on the Forum, and he might indeed work for us...
Hello
Pity about the old production moulds. Will just have to sit and wait patiently a bit longer (not really, how do you think I got my nickname :D :D).
You do seem to have a lot on the go at the moment, hope everything smooths out for you.
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 05 September 2017, 11:50:22 PM
Pity about the old production moulds. Will just have to sit and wait patiently a bit longer (not really, how do you think I got my nickname :D :D).
We were a bit concerned when we first saw them but we hoped they'd be better once we started spinning them. The main problem is that they've been made in a lower temp silicon rather than a regular type, so they're a bit softer and they heat up very quickly. Within 3 or 4 spins, the heat expands the rubber and you start to get flashing around the figures.
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 05 September 2017, 11:50:22 PM
Hello
Pity about the old production moulds. Will just have to sit and wait patiently a bit longer (not really, how do you think I got my nickname :D :D).
You do seem to have a lot on the go at the moment, hope everything smooths out for you.
Waiting patiently for the Teutonics and their oppos to become available for a DBA related idea.
Best of British for all your upcoming releases Leon.
Quote from: Leon on 06 September 2017, 12:04:59 AM
We were a bit concerned when we first saw them but we hoped they'd be better once we started spinning them. The main problem is that they've been made in a lower temp silicon rather than a regular type, so they're a bit softer and they heat up very quickly. Within 3 or 4 spins, the heat expands the rubber and you start to get flashing around the figures.
If you rubber is overheating I suggest you slow down and use some lube
Seriously the delay will stop me buying them and allow me to complete other projects.
Hello
How's it all going with TB Line? Are we looking to have any available for overseas Christmas orders, thinking Russian and Islamic.
Asking for a friend because I'd never be rude enough to seem impatient :P
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 25 October 2017, 02:25:42 AM
How's it all going with TB Line? Are we looking to have any available for overseas Christmas orders, thinking Russian and Islamic.
No progress yet, still working on BKC-III. Once we get that sorted out I can start working on that next job.
Quote from: Leon on 25 October 2017, 03:21:45 PM
No progress yet, still working on BKC-III. Once we get that sorted out I can start working on that next job.
Are these mainly intended for historicals, or are yall planning on a suppliment for Warband army lists?
Quote from: ErHo on 25 October 2017, 09:15:47 PM
Are these mainly intended for historicals, or are yall planning on a suppliment for Warband army lists?
Historicals primarily, although previous customers have found a lot of uses for them in Warmaster armies so we wouldn't be discouraging that!
Quote from: Leon on 25 October 2017, 03:21:45 PM
No progress yet, still working on BKC-III. Once we get that sorted out I can start working on that next job.
Hello
Sorry for the late comment on your reply, I've been travelling. Well Like most of my plans it 'gang aft a-gley'😁.
So I'll just have to wait patiently. My friend, who I was asking for of course, will just have to look for a cat to kick 😁
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Tell him it's more sporting to kick the nine-foot-long stripy kind.
Kitty appears to have a tiger in his tank - not the FSN kind!
The Standard oil or Kellogg's variety may be ?
I'm keeping an eye out for that Lynx that escaped......Mind you....That was 40 miles away, so should think there's as much chance of seeing that, as winning the lottery, this week.
Cheers - phil
With your luck Phil ?
Quote from: Techno on 31 October 2017, 01:29:57 PM
I'm keeping an eye out for that Lynx that escaped......Mind you....That was 40 miles away, so should think there's as much chance of seeing that, as winning the lottery, this week.
According to the BBC, they can travel up to 12 miles a day (or possibly 12 Kilometres, but would the BBC use Km...?)
Quote from: ianrs54 on 31 October 2017, 01:44:28 PM
With your luck Phil ?
Aaah.. :-\....True, Ian. But if by some remote chance it does turn up here, I won't be trying to coax it into a (very big ;) ;)) bucket, like I did with the adder. (I got away with that....So that's probably used up all of my luck when dealing with wild/potentially dangerous animals.)
Quote from: Wulf on 31 October 2017, 01:57:36 PM
According to the BBC, they can travel up to 12 miles a day (or possibly 12 Kilometres, but would the BBC use Km...?)
In theory.....It's certainly had more than enough time to reach Techno Towers, Wulf.....But I doubt very much whether it's moved very far away from its chums.
If it gets spotted savaging any livestock, I fear it'll get shot....But I hope that doesn't happen.
Cheers - Phil
TB line ancients are as good as their medievals too
:)
When the TB line will be avaialable via Pendraken?
Marc
Quote from: madpax on 08 March 2018, 11:51:03 AM
When the TB line will be avaialable via Pendraken?
Hopefully soon as it's taking us a lot longer than planned to get them ready. We're trying to clear some of the outstanding ranges first (Aztecs, 1860 Italians, WWI extension) and then we can start casting from the master moulds and making all of the new production moulds. If the original moulds had been OK we'd have been able to release straightaway but we'll get there with it.
Don't kill yourselves. You've got a lot done of late.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 08 March 2018, 05:06:42 PM
Don't kill yourselves. You've got a lot done of late.
Says a man who has finally got his Aztecs ;)
And very true there has been a lot done recently
:-[
Would there be hoplites?
Marc
Quote from: madpax on 09 March 2018, 02:40:10 PM
Would there be hoplites?
There wasn't a full range of Greeks in the TB Line ranges, but there was a single code of Epirotes with helmet and spears?
Hello
Have been sitting almost quietly, tap-tap-tapping my toes, do we have a realistic estimate of which quarter they're likely to be re-released? Hopefully before my lovely government enacts draconian charges on small packages from overseas - 10% GST (VAT equivalent) PLUS $5 charge for security screening :'( :'(.
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 24 March 2018, 10:20:52 PM
Have been sitting almost quietly, tap-tap-tapping my toes, do we have a realistic estimate of which quarter they're likely to be re-released? Hopefully before my lovely government enacts draconian charges on small packages from overseas - 10% GST (VAT equivalent) PLUS $5 charge for security screening :'( :'(.
They're still in the queue unfortunately, behind the WWI and 1860's Italians. However, the good news is that we've trained up one of the casters to do moulds as well, so we're starting to whip through them a lot quicker. The WWI extension is about 50% moulded and the Italians have been master moulded, so we can start spinning those off and prep production moulds over the next few weeks.
Hello Leon
Thanks, go back to tap-tap-tapping now.
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Quote from: Leon on 26 March 2018, 12:00:11 AM
we've trained up one of the casters to do moulds as well, so we're starting to whip through them a lot quicker.
Obviously not whipping the casting Dwarves enough. :)
Perhaps a few more clones ?
Quote from: ianrs54 on 26 March 2018, 12:20:43 PM
Perhaps a few more clones ?
I think we've got enough for now, there's 4 casting, 2 on the laser machine and 1 packaging...plus me of course!
Quote from: Leon on 26 March 2018, 03:24:17 PM
I think we've got enough for now, there's 4 casting, 2 on the laser machine and 1 packaging...plus me of course!
That will be a fair bit of money on wages, assuming they are wage slaves and not just slaves ;)
cheers
Ian
Quote from: Sandinista on 27 March 2018, 05:21:01 AM
That will be a fair bit of money on wages, assuming they are wage slaves and not just slaves ;)
Thankfully most of them aren't full-time yet, but it's still a fair chunk!
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Hi Leon,
Any more news on TB Lines ?
Thanks in advance
Quote from: piccolomini on 09 July 2018, 07:50:21 AM
Any more news on TB Lines ?
We've started spinning the master moulds and identifying the figures ready for new production moulds, but we're finding that there's quite a few missing sculpts for some reason. We've still got a few moulds left to check over so hopefully we'll find them there. There's also 5 or 6 production moulds missing as well, but we should be able to replace those from the master moulds.
How is progress on these chaps?
Quote from: industrialtrousers on 31 May 2019, 06:53:10 AM
How is progress on these chaps?
I've just started prepping the Teutonics so I'll be getting those ready while I'm working on the Indian Mutiny range at the same time. Hopefully we'll have these done ready for release before the end of June, and then it'll be on to the Islamics and Mongols.