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Title: Trews in The Book of Kells?
Post by: Druzhina on 30 April 2014, 04:26:58 AM
A certain class of Dark Age Irish warriors wear trews, some to below the knee and some ankle length with a strap under the instep. I have found three illuminations in The Book of Kells of men wearing trews:
An Irish warrior in trews in The Book of Kells, c.800AD (http://warfare2.netai.net/6C-11C/Kells-Warrior.htm)
An Irish soldier with spear and small round shield wearing a cloak and trews. (http://warfare2.netai.net/6C-11C/Kells-Soldier.htm)
A man wearing a round-necked jacket with fitted sleeves and ankle-length trews held taut with instep straps. (http://warfare2.netai.net/6C-11C/Kells-130r-detail.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=12839&d=1398829496)

Are there any more or bigger/better images of trew wearing Irish in The Book of Kells?

Ian Heath based his Dark Age Irish Warriors on the Book of Kells (http://warfare2.likamva.in/WRG/Dark_Ages-38-39-Irish_Warriors.htm)

MIRROR SITE
An Irish warrior in trews in The Book of Kells, c.800AD (http://warfare.likamva.in/6C-11C/Kells-Warrior.htm)
An Irish soldier with spear and small round shield wearing a cloak and trews. (http://warfare.likamva.in/6C-11C/Kells-Soldier.htm)
A man wearing a round-necked jacket with fitted sleeves and ankle-length trews held taut with instep straps. (http://warfare.likamva.in/6C-11C/Kells-130r-detail.htm)

Druzhina
Illustrations of Irish Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare2.netai.net/Irish.htm)
Title: Re: Trews in The Book of Kells?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 April 2014, 05:51:46 AM
Great finds.
Techno, when you do Dark Age Irish... ;)
Title: Re: Trews in The Book of Kells?
Post by: fsn on 30 April 2014, 06:15:34 AM
Dark Age Irish:

Take 1 bottle Guinness, 1/3 bottle Irish Whiskey (Bushmill's Black for preference). 

Pour into a pint glass and fill to the top with potcheen.

Drink down in one.

The temporary blindness is called "Dark Age Irish". 
Title: Re: Trews in The Book of Kells?
Post by: Techno on 30 April 2014, 06:49:51 AM
Really interesting finds....But I'm glad Ian H had already interpreted them.
I'd have seen the last figure with tattooed legs rather than trews. :-[
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Trews in The Book of Kells?
Post by: Luddite on 30 April 2014, 07:35:00 AM
As ever with  such sources I think there's a GREAT deal of assumption necessary to reach the conclusion that these are 'trews'.  So-called 'Celtic'art appears to be highly decorative and symbolic.  I'd say, at best, you could say 'some srt of legging'.   ;D
Title: Re: Trews in The Book of Kells?
Post by: DanJ on 30 April 2014, 03:03:51 PM
Do Pendraken produce the 'Trews at 10'?
Title: Re: Trews in The Book of Kells?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 30 April 2014, 03:40:20 PM
OUT OUT OUT

ianS
Title: Re: Trews in The Book of Kells?
Post by: Techno on 30 April 2014, 04:59:45 PM
I'll hold his coat ! :D
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Trews in The Book of Kells?
Post by: DanJ on 01 May 2014, 10:12:07 AM
I'll fight him with one hand tied behind my back and one foot in a bucket, Im not......


TREWSILLANIMOUS!!!! :P
Title: Re: Trews in The Book of Kells?
Post by: Fenton on 01 May 2014, 10:15:57 AM
I hear that that an ITV announcer got annoyed about this

When about to go he wanted his 10 o'clock trews but the wardrobe assistant brought the wrong ones and he was heard to shout

" You've brought the wrong ones these are too silly looking, I want the 10 o'clock trews Not the nine o'clock trews"