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Title: Return of Dad's Army
Post by: Fenton on 27 April 2014, 10:06:28 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/10790918/Dads-Army-to-march-back-on-to-the-screen.html
Title: Re: Return of Dad's Army
Post by: paulr on 27 April 2014, 10:14:38 AM
I can see this going terribly wrong  :(
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Post by: Ace of Spades on 27 April 2014, 10:46:51 AM
Hmmmmm.... mixed feelings... :-\

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Post by: Techno on 27 April 2014, 12:11:52 PM
Same feelings as Paul & Rob.  :-\
Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Steve J on 27 April 2014, 12:46:00 PM
Personally I can't see it working for the generation of fans that grew up with it. A new generation may enjoy it... :-\
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Post by: Ithoriel on 27 April 2014, 12:50:43 PM
Good choices for Mainwaring and Wilson IMHO.

Interested to see what they do with it.
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Post by: Subedai on 27 April 2014, 02:11:57 PM
It'll be interesting and no mistake. They both have a very tough act to follow but Nighy is great whatever I've seen -or heard- him in so he should be a hit. Toby Jones as Mainwairing...we'll see. I'll give it a go.
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Post by: howayman on 27 April 2014, 02:27:58 PM
To me it was an ensemble, all the actors complemented each other. It will hard to put that together again even if they get the right story/script.
Interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: Return of Dad's Army
Post by: burnaby64 on 27 April 2014, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: howayman on 27 April 2014, 02:27:58 PM
To me it was an ensemble, all the actors complemented each other. It will hard to put that together again even if they get the right story/script.
Interesting to see what happens.

This is so true. It will be crucial to the success of this venture.....and I'm not holding my breath, sadly.
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 April 2014, 05:49:08 PM
May I be excused sir?
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Post by: mollinary on 27 April 2014, 06:27:45 PM
I hope it works, but it will be very difficult - how do you stop it becoming an exercise in the new actors impersonating the old ones?   Good luck!

Mollinary
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Post by: marie on 27 April 2014, 07:37:42 PM
tricky.....
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Post by: Leman on 27 April 2014, 08:02:29 PM
If the Swiss ask you what arms to use don't tell them pike!
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Post by: fred. on 27 April 2014, 09:23:17 PM
(http://www.nathanandbecky.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Tumbleweed_rolling_2.jpg)

that caused an hour of silence....
Title: Re: Return of Dad's Army
Post by: Hertsblue on 04 May 2014, 04:13:22 PM
Why do they do it? Remakes rarely work if the original was definitive or too close in time to the remake. The fact that the original show still airs is not an advantage to my way of thinking.
Title: Re: Return of Dad's Army
Post by: sebigboss79 on 04 May 2014, 06:24:17 PM
People know me as traditional but I urge you to trust me that NOT everything was better in the good old times.

I believe it would still be better if we had kept our hands off!

Remakes = cashing in from unsuspecting people instead of being creative.
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Post by: clibinarium on 04 May 2014, 06:38:02 PM
Remakes have one major thing going for them (from the remaker's point of view), and that's widespread recognition of the concept. You don't have to explain Dad's Army to many people, they'll be familiar with it already, and hopefully that will encourage them to go and see it. So it seems to be less risky than doing something new.
That does nothing for the quality of what your making though. Usually you end up desecrating something beloved. There are very few remakes that improved on the originals.

If people would ditch the "recognition" factor what they should do is remake stuff that was bad the first time around. Not out and out awful un-saveable  stuff, but maybe movies that had interesting ideas that were executed ham-fistedly or were too ambitious for the budget they had, which would make good movies if given a bit more love or money.
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Post by: Luddite on 04 May 2014, 06:49:14 PM
(http://www.mitchellcharlesworth.co.uk/media/47685/we're%20all%20doomed%20(200x193).jpg)
Title: Re: Return of Dad's Army
Post by: paulr on 04 May 2014, 08:01:40 PM
Quote from: Luddite on 04 May 2014, 06:49:14 PM
(http://www.mitchellcharlesworth.co.uk/media/47685/we're%20all%20doomed%20(200x193).jpg)

Well said that man
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Post by: sebigboss79 on 04 May 2014, 09:05:17 PM
+1
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Post by: Leman on 05 May 2014, 09:48:31 AM
Quote from: clibinarium on 04 May 2014, 06:38:02 PM
Remakes have one major thing going for them (from the remaker's point of view), and that's widespread recognition of the concept. You don't have to explain Dad's Army to many people, they'll be familiar with it already, and hopefully that will encourage them to go and see it. So it seems to be less risky than doing something new.
That does nothing for the quality of what your making though. Usually you end up desecrating something beloved. There are very few remakes that improved on the originals.

If people would ditch the "recognition" factor what they should do is remake stuff that was bad the first time around. Not out and out awful un-saveable  stuff, but maybe movies that had interesting ideas that were executed ham-fistedly or were too ambitious for the budget they had, which would make good movies if given a bit more love or money.
Lord of the Rings seemed to pull that off. I remember a version from the early 70s which was naff in the extreme owing to lack of technology.
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Post by: Techno on 05 May 2014, 10:05:20 AM
The cartoon version ?
I swear you could tell when they started running short of funds in that one.
Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 05 May 2014, 10:51:37 AM
As I remember it finished at Helms Deep, and the Orc's spoke Russian....

Also cavalry charge down a cliff.

IanS
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Post by: Vulpine on 20 May 2014, 08:57:51 PM
It might be good.. We have to look at it unrelated to the original however

Oh... Carton LOTR was a classic!
Title: Re: Return of Dad's Army
Post by: Leman on 20 May 2014, 09:02:17 PM
Yes, they had it boxed off.
Title: Re: Return of Dad's Army
Post by: Techno on 21 May 2014, 07:00:54 AM
Stop it !!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.