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Title: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Maenoferren on 11 April 2014, 06:27:48 PM
I just based up 100 + figures randomly shoving what came next out of the box. After they were glued, covered in sand and sprayed black I suddenly thought that maybe the Hadendowa should be based seperarately... what do people think?

I based them and the brits whislt watching the Korda version of the Four Feathers  :D

As a total aside...does anyone else hate sticking wheels on artillery as much as I do.

Things the wheels stuck to..
my fingers,
my trousers
the table
the floor...it is amazing how far a small wheel covered in SUper Glue can roll across a lino floor before coming to a stop and afixing itself.


Things it didnt stick to.....
the limber
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: burnaby64 on 11 April 2014, 07:53:35 PM
My experience of artillery wheels precisely! ;D
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Bernie on 11 April 2014, 08:29:45 PM
Same here - I now use a tiny bit of a normal sticky glue to put wheel to limber then superglue the whole lot into place
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: kipt on 11 April 2014, 09:29:26 PM
Put the wheels on, hold the limber or artillery piece upside down and put a small drop of super glue on the axle next to the wheel.  It flows in and voila, fini.
Kipt
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: FierceKitty on 11 April 2014, 11:37:02 PM
Agree about wheels. And, yes, Hadendowah do need separate basing. :(
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Steve J on 12 April 2014, 07:00:37 AM
I put glue on the axle, then put the wheel on, thereby keeping glue away from my fingers. When stuck, I add some more glue to the wheel and axle just to be secure. Hope this helps?
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Maenoferren on 12 April 2014, 09:18:17 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 11 April 2014, 11:37:02 PM
And, yes, Hadendowah do need separate basing. :(
This first lot got caught up in the religious fervor of the charge. :D

oh and bugger, bugger, bugger Just painted the artillery the wrong colour... can anybody tell me why I thought brown was a suitable colour.
so far...
3 guns (avec the wrong colour)
2 bases of Royal Marines
KRRC and 19th Hussars
4 of some infantyr unit, havent decided who yet
2 of some other unit

Am really enjoying painting these... huzzah, God save the Queen etc
Last nights viewing..Zulu Dawn  :-[
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 April 2014, 08:18:15 AM
I formed the opinion that nothing sticks anywhere but to me when using superglue.

IanS
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Hertsblue on 13 April 2014, 08:58:00 AM
Flatten out a small piece of Blutak on the work surface. Push the wheels into it upright slightly less than the correct distance apart. Put a drop of superglue on each axle and position the carriage between the wheels. Push the two wheels slightly inwards so that the axles engage. Make sure the wheels are upright. When firm, pull out of the Blutak and clean off the wheels.

Takes longer to describe than to do.
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Glorfindel on 13 April 2014, 09:44:16 AM
>> Gluing wheels to everything except the limber...

Completely agree.  After much gnashing of teeth, tearing of hair, looking for wheels etc etc,
I decided to take a radical new approach with my ECW artillery.   I snipped off the piece of
metal on the limber which is meant to be inserted into the wheel and just glued the wheel to
the axle.   I found this a lot easier and, when based up, no loss of strength.

Phil
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 April 2014, 11:53:14 AM
Superglue was designed to bond skin to skin for medical procedures.

Gluing skin to figures - pretty much "working as intended" :)

Immensely frustrating none the less!!
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Maenoferren on 13 April 2014, 02:40:46 PM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 13 April 2014, 08:58:00 AM
Flatten out a small piece of Blutak on the work surface. Push the wheels into it upright slightly less than the correct distance apart. Put a drop of superglue on each axle and position the carriage between the wheels. Push the two wheels slightly inwards so that the axles engage. Make sure the wheels are upright. When firm, pull out of the Blutak and clean off the wheels.

Takes longer to describe than to do.
That's what I did in the end.
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 April 2014, 02:43:25 PM
Likewise; file 'em flat, superglue, then epoxy. That way they only break off a few times every year.
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: tschuma on 14 April 2014, 04:57:26 PM
super glue, artillery and skin are the perfect match!

As far as mounting, depends on the rules you are using
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Maenoferren on 14 April 2014, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: tschuma on 14 April 2014, 04:57:26 PM

As far as mounting, depends on the rules you are using
4 bases to the battalion as for the rules haven't a clue.
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: toxicpixie on 14 April 2014, 06:59:55 PM
Peter Pigs Patrols in the Sudan are execelleng fun with a good hands for both sides to be victorious. Or at least to lose :D

Chris Peers' "Death in the Dark Continent" is supposed to be good, and others in my group have used it and say it's good. I've his "Too few to fight" colonials to Indian Wars in the Americas and that's good and I suspect is workable quite nicely as well.

Also, artillery and superglue. Always ends as artillery in bits on desk, fingers glued together, me swearing. Now I only do that twice, practice means I can get it right third time now ;)
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: burnaby64 on 14 April 2014, 11:14:12 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 14 April 2014, 06:59:55 PM
Peter Pigs Patrols in the Sudan are execelleng fun with a good hands for both sides to be victorious. Or at least to lose :D

Chris Peers' "Death in the Dark Continent" is supposed to be good, and others in my group have used it and say it's good. I've his "Too few to fight" colonials to Indian Wars in the Americas and that's good and I suspect is workable quite nicely as well.

Also, artillery and superglue. Always ends as artillery in bits on desk, fingers glued together, me swearing. Now I only do that twice, practice means I can get it right third time now ;)

Thanks for the suggestions anent rules. I tried 'A Good Dusting' but it is full of holes. The Peter Pig sound interesting and there was an Indian Mutiny game at my club recently which used 'The Gatling's Jammed' so I might give that a shufti too.
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: WeeWars on 14 April 2014, 11:34:06 PM
I just bought Peter Pig's Patrols in the Sudan last week. Lots of good stuff in it. New version 2012.
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 April 2014, 12:33:35 AM
Anent? Goodness me.
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: GordonY on 15 April 2014, 07:02:31 AM
Principles of War : Colonial gives a good fun game for the period.

Random number of units in the Army
Random General quality
Random number of units a General can move each turn
Random unit sizes (you find out when they shoot, get shot at, or enter combat)

all in all its bloody chaos, but a whole load of fun.

Ok its a very old set but can usually be picked up on Ebay for a quid or so.
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: toxicpixie on 15 April 2014, 08:20:18 AM
Pleasure!

PiTS were almost enough to tempt me into a new game/period and armies, and I don't even really like Colonial Era games :D
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: burnaby64 on 15 April 2014, 01:41:12 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 15 April 2014, 12:33:35 AM
Anent? Goodness me.


Yes, I am a proud member of the Society for the Preservation of Anent, a body created by the editor of the 'Scottish Review of Books' when the Kirk discontinued the use of this fine word in its business papers.
Title: Re: Sudan Dervish infantry basing
Post by: Maenoferren on 26 April 2014, 10:09:58 PM
I have now decided that I hate painting bases almost as much as making artillery  :( >:( :(.
twenty down only abvout 200 to go  :'( :'( :'( (and thats just the base coat :'( :'( :'(