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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Firelocks to Maxims (1680 - 1900) => Topic started by: Malbork on 06 March 2014, 09:55:46 AM

Title: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: Malbork on 06 March 2014, 09:55:46 AM
I've checked out an older (2010) thread on this subject which is full of useful info but thought I'd start a new new one rather than resurrecting that one.


Thanks to Pendraken's 443 offer I now finally have the Jacobites that I've been planning to buy for ages. I've decided to use Black Powder and the LAOK supplement, but have yet to start organising and basing.  So I'd like to know if anyone else has done the Jacobites and British/Dutch/Hanoverians with BP?

If so, what sized units did you opt for and what base sizes?

My thinking is to move away from the Warmaster/DBx 40x20/30 bases towards soemthing more Impetus like, at least for the clans.

As usual, all input welcome :)
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: DanJ on 06 March 2014, 12:19:57 PM
I've not done the '45 but BP works well for 7YW in 10mm.

Personally I use a 20x20 base as a stand with 6 figures in two lines.  This looks great for regulars but might not fit with the Clans so bigger bases might be better.
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: Malbork on 06 March 2014, 04:47:16 PM
Thanks Dan.

Could be an idea to go 20x20 bases with 6 figures for Redcoats and then 40x20 or even 60x20/30 for the clans. Need to check out how important base width is in the rules.

BTW what size regiments/battalions do you sue for SYW?
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: SV52 on 06 March 2014, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: Malbork on 06 March 2014, 09:55:46 AM
I've checked out an older (2010) thread on this subject which is full of useful info but thought I'd start a new new one rather than resurrecting that one.


Thanks to Pendraken's 443 offer I now finally have the Jacobites that I've been planning to buy for ages. I've decided to use Black Powder and the LAOK supplement, but have yet to start organising and basing.  So I'd like to know if anyone else has done the Jacobites and British/Dutch/Hanoverians with BP?

If so, what sized units did you opt for and what base sizes?

My thinking is to move away from the Warmaster/DBx 40x20/30 bases towards soemthing more Impetus like, at least for the clans.

As usual, all input welcome :)


I don't think I would go mad with the clansmen bases, it isn't the Zulu wars or the Sudan - 'fahsands of 'em'  ;).  At Culloden the government army outnumbered the Jacobites. The average strength of a government battalion was around 400 men, most of the clan 'regiments' were half that.  So clansmen for my Montrose and Glorious Revolution armies are 5 figures to a 40x30 base with the number of bases per clan making up the numbers rather than large bases with loads of figures.  As what we know now as tartans don't feature, the bases can be mixed and matched.
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: DanJ on 07 March 2014, 10:45:15 AM
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/SYW_Fr2.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/SYW_Fr2.jpg.html)

Here's a couple of my French Regiments, the infantry is on 20x20 bases but to ease moving on the table I include a couple of double bases which are 20x40.  So the battalion actually comprises 2 bases of 20x20, one of which is the 'command base' which in BP shows facing etc. and 2 40x20 bases.  It looks slightly odd when in march column as some of the figures face sideways but the two single stands make it obvious which way the battalion is marching.

I use a similar set up for the cavalry, 12 figures to a regiment, 4 bases of 25x25mm and 1 of 25x50, again it just speeds up moving the figures arround on the table.
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 March 2014, 11:02:15 AM
 8) Cool Dan!
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 March 2014, 11:11:36 AM
An ancestor of mine was in charge of the Jacobite commisariat.
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: Malbork on 07 March 2014, 04:46:13 PM
Thanks guys;

Inspiring photo Dan 8), think I might follow that idea for the regulars - looks nice.

I take your point about it not being Zululand SV52. Think I was getting carried away with inaccurate images of a thin red line stretche dout across the moors. Thanks for putting me right :)
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: seano1815 on 08 March 2014, 11:52:18 PM
Hi Malbork   I'm doing both forces for the 45 check out my blog for my painfully slow progress  ;D :-[ only Barrels painted so far, plus nearly finished a regiment of dragoons, finished a few clans too, got a few pics on my blog don't know how to post them here (bit of a pc homer simpson lol) hope it helps
All the best
Sean
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: nikharwood on 09 March 2014, 12:44:55 AM
That mad b@$tard Fielder bought mine off me - they'd sat for far too long in a black undercoat...

IIRC, he even threw some paint at 'em.

Some of it might have even stuck in vaguely the right places - but I'd need photographic evidence to corroborate that...

;) :D
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: Malbork on 10 March 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Thanks for the link Sean, glad to see I'm not not the only one who's slow with some of his projects  :D ;D
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: DanJ on 10 March 2014, 01:58:38 PM
Quotethey'd sat for far too long in a black undercoat

I always use a white undercoat for my figures, especially 10mm, I think black makes the figures too dark......  but that's probably a new thread  ;)
Title: Re: Culloden and the '45 redux
Post by: Malbork on 10 March 2014, 03:47:47 PM
Me too Dan. Did one block of Napoleonic Brits in black and they look very drab, since then I've used white and used a dark stain to finish off