I'm sure this has been covered elsewhere however ... can anyone recommend a commercial source for accurate Saxon flags circa 1866, 10mm scale. I have the 'green cross' variety courtesy of either Pendraken or Baccus, can't remember, however I am now conscious of the fact that these are innacurate and I should have the solid green variety with the border and shield and royal monogram etc etc.
These ones:
(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/PNFL78.png)
http://www.pendraken.co.uk/PNFL78-p6627/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/PNFL78-p6627/)
Come on Cam, wake up man! These, and new Austrian, Baden, Hesse-Darmstadt, Nassau, Wurttemberg, Lippe, etc were put together by Maciek on the basis of my research in Fiebig, Hottenroth, etc and have been on the site for AGES! ;)
Mollinary
But I understood the white ones were mythical. :-\
Quote from: Hertsblue on 12 February 2014, 11:12:39 AM
But I understood the white ones were mythical. :-\
Only for 1866 HB! This set covers all those needed for 1866 and 1870. By 1870, the Saxons have 24 line Battalions, in eight regiments of three battalions each, instead of the 16 battalions of 1866. All the 1st battalions of the regiments have a white flag, as shown on the sheet. seven of these are new models, the other one is the old Grenadier Garde flag of 1815. I am sure we have been over this one before! :-\
Mollinary
Only with me when I got my Leibgrenadiers flags wrong... ???
I can testify that all new flags for 1866/70 are the best researched and most complete sets currently available, not only in 10mm scale
With Molinary we exchanged plenty of e-mails discussing the slightest details e.g. the direction the Hessian lion was marching on reverse and obverse of the flag 8)
All Saxon colours are based on pre-war photographs of originals.
Splendid, all ordered, now I can interchange my authentic Saxon flags with generic Bavarian thus giving the boys in pale blue two cracks of the whip (at half the cost :) )
Whilst we are here gents, 1870 Bavarian Currasiers come with a premolded flag, any details chaps? ;)
Splash a bit of blue and white on it, nobody will notice .... :d
Quote from: mad lemmey on 13 February 2014, 09:54:50 AM
Whilst we are here gents, 1870 Bavarian Currasiers come with a premolded flag, any details chaps? ;)
Hi ML. The Kurassiers regiments each carried only one of their three flags into action in 1866 and 1870. This was white, with gold embroidery. Rather than describe it, there is an excellent illustration you can use on flags forum.com Go to the Europe section, and search for Imperial German Army Colours. On p4 of the thread are some illustrations of the flags of the later "Heavy Rider" regiments. The picture of the flag of the 1st Heavy Rider Regiment is of the type used by the earlier Cuirassiers. The other side of the flag has the design shown on the flag of the 2nd Heavy Rider Regiment, but with gold embroidery. Much easier than describing them. The monogram is MJK. (Max Josef Konig). Hope this helps.
Mollinary
" Splash a bit of blue and white on it, nobody will notice .... :d "
... apart from you know who.
Thanks gents.
Quote from: mollinary on 13 February 2014, 10:52:08 AM
Hi ML. The Kurassiers regiments each carried only one of their three flags into action in 1866 and 1870. This was white, with gold embroidery. Rather than describe it, there is an excellent illustration you can use on flags forum.com Go to the Europe section, and search for Imperial German Army Colours. On p4 of the thread are some illustrations of the flags of the later "Heavy Rider" regiments. The picture of the flag of the 1st Heavy Rider Regiment is of the type used by the earlier Cuirassiers. The other side of the flag has the design shown on the flag of the 2nd Heavy Rider Regiment, but with gold embroidery. Much easier than describing them. The monogram is MJK. (Max Josef Konig). Hope this helps.
Mollinary
"Heavy Rider", was he the older brother of Easy Rider?
Quote from: cameronian on 13 February 2014, 12:08:06 PM
" Splash a bit of blue and white on it, nobody will notice .... :d "
... apart from you know who.
Quite true! But I am afraid when I found out, I left the Standard Bearer out of my Bavarian Cuirassier regiments, as I just couldn't be a...d!
Mollinary
;D
Quote from: mollinary on 13 February 2014, 01:10:59 PM
Quite true! But I am afraid when I found out, I left the Standard Bearer out of my Bavarian Cuirassier regiments, as I just couldn't be a...d!
Mollinary
=O =O =O =O =O =O =D>
Quote from: mollinary on 13 February 2014, 01:10:59 PM
Quite true! But I am afraid when I found out, I left the Standard Bearer out of my Bavarian Cuirassier regiments, as I just couldn't be a...d!
Mollinary
Couldn't you have sent him off to your highly skilled gentlemen on the other side of the world? :)
Quote from: Hertsblue on 14 February 2014, 08:45:33 AM
Couldn't you have sent him off to your highly skilled gentlemen on the other side of the world? :)
Yes, I suppose so - but the flag is so small, and the detail so complicated, I wasn't sure that it was worth the hassle.
Mollinary
Well, I really don't think that's the attitude! If we all stopped bothering about little things, we'd disappear up our own inconsequence!
:P
Great attitude, fsn. So I'll send them to you, shall I? :D
Mollinary
I should pull rank fsn, he sounds a bit insubordinate to me.
Quote from: cameronian on 14 February 2014, 02:15:56 PM
I should pull rank fsn, he sounds a bit insubordinate to me.
A bit like a Captain ratting on a Colonel to a Brigadier, you mean? :-\
Mollinary
Quote from: mollinary on 14 February 2014, 12:56:56 PM
Great attitude, fsn. So I'll send them to you, shall I? :D
I recognise my limits: I print all my flags. If I can't find a proper copy, I can make a reasonable facsimile about A4 size that shrinks down quite nicely.
Ahem...
Gentlemen!
I wish not to dress anyone down here...
I paint those I cannot find a print out for! :P
Quote from: mollinary on 14 February 2014, 02:23:45 PM
A bit like a Captain ratting on a Colonel to a Brigadier, you mean? :-\
Mollinary
That's not insubordination, that's good staff work.
Quote from: cameronian on 14 February 2014, 06:56:49 PM
That's not insubordination, that's good staff work.
And it's an attitude like that, pursued by my namesake, that lost your favourites the war! ;D
Mollinary
Quote from: cameronian on 14 February 2014, 02:15:56 PM
I should pull rank fsn, he sounds a bit insubordinate to me.
Indeed no, good Cameronian. I may have driveled and waffled my way into a superior rank to friend Mollinary, but he has the gravitas that comes from long experience. It was my surprise at seeing him apparently so easily thwarted that inspired my reproof of him.
('sides which he's a blue belt with a steely glint in the eye)
Quote from: fsn on 14 February 2014, 07:20:14 PM
Indeed no, good Cameronian. I may have driveled and waffled my way into a superior rank to friend Mollinary, but he has the gravitas that comes from long experience. It was my surprise at seeing him apparently so easily thwarted that inspired my reproof of him.
('sides which he's a blue belt with a steely glint in the eye)
All of which is correct but its vital he doesn't know it, shhhhhhhhhh.
Probably more appropriate for the books section however since we've gathered most of the 1866ers together here has anybody read Simon Winders 'Danubia', it looks rather good.
Painted my Bavarian Curassier's flag tonight, good source, thank you.
Photos after basing this weekend, hopefully!
It must be something in the air, I just re-flagged my entire Saxon army, all 16 battalions of the little brutes, must say though, looks better. The Bavarian flags have also been done so that with a sleight of hand (and my old rather poorly focussed specs) they can pass (at a distance) for Bavarians.
Quote from: cameronian on 15 February 2014, 01:43:15 PM
Probably more appropriate for the books section however since we've gathered most of the 1866ers together here has anybody read Simon Winders 'Danubia', it looks rather good.
It was a reasonably interesting read, a bit too Bill Bryson in flavour for me, nowhere near as good as Claudio Magris' 'Danube,'
Ah, must read that then, thanks.
To be fair, 'Danubia' was doing something different from the Magris book and was quite entertaining and informative. It's just that I found the author repeated certain turns of phrase and mannerisms so often that I became irritated. I liked his earlier book on Germany.