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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: Sunray on 11 February 2014, 11:53:34 AM

Title: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Sunray on 11 February 2014, 11:53:34 AM
Grumpy's adventures with his fish tank navy inspired me to look at toys and model boats that could be blogged to resemble 1/150 scale.

A cheap and useful model is the Testors Easybuild PT boat.  It is marketed as 1/200 but is closer to 1/187.    The detail is crisp.

With Pendraken crew and weapons fit it will pass muster as a WW2- post war PT boat.   I am very happy with the finished model.

In the USA it retails at $3.59

Testors also do a landing craft - but it is "fit the box" 1/600? or thereabouts. Pity - a good large landcraft would be so useful in 10mm
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 11 February 2014, 12:16:24 PM
Landing craft are easy to build, the only hard bit on a Higgins is the MG rings, the LCA is ok, as is the LCM 3, having done 10 and 5 respectively for 15mm.

IanS
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Sunray on 11 February 2014, 12:20:03 PM
Thanks Ian. Impressive scratch builds.  Where can you source the scale plans for 1/150 ?

Lingberg have a LCI in 1/160 - has anyone built it?
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Sunray on 11 February 2014, 03:07:10 PM
Reminds me, did Leon ever get the big box of resin Landing Craft sorted ?
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 11 February 2014, 04:16:46 PM
I used a book titled "Assault from the Sea" - but that was bought remaindered over 20 yrs ago, dimensions and pictures are available on the web.

IanS
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Leon on 11 February 2014, 04:48:50 PM
Quote from: Sunray on 11 February 2014, 03:07:10 PM
Reminds me, did Leon ever get the big box of resin Landing Craft sorted ?

Kind of...  :-[

They're in a slightly smaller box now, but we have bought some new stacking drawers for keeping the new resin stock in, so we're getting a little closer!
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: fsn on 11 February 2014, 05:20:50 PM
"Stacking drawers" ... are these to go with the "new racking"?

Must resist ... must resist ... must resist ...
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 11 February 2014, 10:07:35 PM
Hello All

Things nautical, the Testors PT boat looks good, will have to poke around and see what I can find.

Landing craft:-

Trumpeter do a 1/144 LCM 3 http://hobby-space.com/Trumpeter-1144-00102-WW2-LCM-3-USN-Vehicle-Landing-Cra-P2405899.aspx (http://hobby-space.com/Trumpeter-1144-00102-WW2-LCM-3-USN-Vehicle-Landing-Cra-P2405899.aspx)

Revell is due to release an LSM (includinfg Shermans, M8 ACs and trucks in August http://kampfgruppe144.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/revell-2014-1144-releases.html (http://kampfgruppe144.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/revell-2014-1144-releases.html)

Haven't built the Lindberg LCI but here is a review along with pictures of the sprues. Most places are listing it as available from late Feb.

http://www.epmodels.co.uk/shipkits/reviews/lindberg_lci.html (http://www.epmodels.co.uk/shipkits/reviews/lindberg_lci.html)

Pic of made up kit
(http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/am/landingcraft/lcil78-160-ep/lcil78-01.jpg)

It's about a foot long so with a bit of work you could come up with a tramp steamer too. Thanks for pointing that one out.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan


Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Sunray on 11 February 2014, 11:16:05 PM
Many thanks GOM - the Revell Kit looks awesome and will probably inspire me to game the 1956 Suez campaign in 10mm.   The Shermans can be modified as wrecks, cause it will be Pendraken  Centurions that will be hitting the Port Said beaches.

I have modified the Pendraken corvette with a modern turret, radar and AAA.  So have shore bombardment.  

I had a decco at the Revell website and see a couple of 1/144 WW1 German warships including  the Emden are also due for release in March. 

A whole new chapter in VBCW is opening up- not to mention a WW1 East Africa scenario.

Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Maenoferren on 11 February 2014, 11:40:14 PM
for the higgins boat you could try finger and toe models, 28mm card, but reduced by the necessary percentage... much cheapness too
http://www.rpgnow.com/product/120606/Higgins-Boat
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 11 February 2014, 11:53:29 PM
Hello

As well as VBCW and WW1 East Africa, don't forget the new campaign I've just come across - ***The Sino-Soviet Clash of 1929***.

It has everything - trains (it was fought over a railway)

boats/ships (quite a few river engagements apparently),
(http://i038.radikal.ru/1004/32/894468ced118.gif)

biplanes,
(http://s54.radikal.ru/i143/1004/f5/6a8a0575d136.jpg)

nattily dressed Chinese troops (are the Korean War Chinese any closer?)
(http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=209492)
(http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=209493)

another excuse to get SCW Andaluz cavalry
(http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=219673)

White Russians fighting with the Chinese
(http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=318783)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Sunray on 12 February 2014, 03:45:52 PM
You have done it again GOM - an obscure wee war that no figure maker has ever heard of.  I at first thought it was the 1969 incident.

The RCW figures will cover the Soviets.   I see some of your images on the Axis History Forum, so presume you have accessed it as a source?
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 12 February 2014, 10:17:42 PM
Hello James/Sunray

Quote from: Sunray on 12 February 2014, 03:45:52 PM
You have done it again GOM - an obscure wee war that no figure maker has ever heard of.  I at first thought it was the 1969 incident.

The RCW figures will cover the Soviets.   I see some of your images on the Axis History Forum, so presume you have accessed it as a source?

Indeed the Axishistory forum is where I first saw this action mentioned and it had lots of convenient photos. You can rightclick on a photo and see where it's being stored.

Sparked by this I did read further and it did look interesting. Of course the T-18 tank isn't available easily (by that I mean cheaply  :) ). The Soviet seaplane tender looks interesting (see how I effortlessly segued it all back to a nautical direction  :D)

(http://www.bellabs.ru/Fotab/KVGD/ORchAO-68_04.jpg)

Speaking of all things nautical, I cam across a handy site (not sure how accurate it is)

http://www.navypedia.org/retro_view/1930/china_1930.htm (http://www.navypedia.org/retro_view/1930/china_1930.htm)

Example above of Chinese naval forces in 1930. The site covers navies from 1900 to 1945 for a range of countries.

Cheers

Vic/GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Sunray on 13 February 2014, 10:29:19 AM

Speaking of all things nautical, I cam across a handy site (not sure how accurate it is)

Well, having looked at the site, I am blown away by the detailed images of the vessel profiles.  Someone has done a lot of research.

The image of the seaplane tender - those aren't buntings - its the crew's laundry !  ;D
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 February 2014, 12:37:16 PM
Those look a lot like extracts from Janes Fighting ships, at least the Pictures do.

IanS
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 13 February 2014, 10:55:12 PM
Hello James/Sunray

Quote from: Sunray on 13 February 2014, 10:29:19 AM
The image of the seaplane tender - those aren't buntings - its the crew's laundry !  ;D

Well, they had to dry it somewhere  ;D ;D.

Apparently it was built on the hull of one of the river monitors, as in the plan. You can see the original bridge surrounded by the 'add-ons'. Probably not a glamour posting  :).

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/russia/ru_of_tayfun.htm (http://www.navypedia.org/ships/russia/ru_of_tayfun.htm)

Cheers

Vic/GrumpyOldMan

Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Sunray on 12 March 2020, 08:16:02 PM
Leon,  here is a reference to that box of resin from a 2014 thread.
Title: Re: PT Boat for 10mm wargame
Post by: Sunray on 12 March 2020, 08:16:51 PM
Quote from: Leon on 11 February 2014, 04:48:50 PM
Kind of...  :-[

They're in a slightly smaller box now, but we have bought some new stacking drawers for keeping the new resin stock in, so we're getting a little closer!