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Title: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Subedai on 23 January 2014, 09:06:52 PM
Hi all,

First post here in the Gallery. I thought I'd share a couple of  pictures of my Medieval Polish to face the Mongols (they arrived the other day and painting is ongoing.

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad152/subedai/10mm%20Figures/Medieval%20Polish/DSCI0049-1-1-1.jpg)

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad152/subedai/10mm%20Figures/Medieval%20Polish/DSCI0046.jpg)

There is a lot more information on the blog as this is a new project, started this year.


EDIT: Pics resized slightly.
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 January 2014, 09:08:19 PM
Shiney!

Really look good
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: fred. on 23 January 2014, 09:21:16 PM
Red!

Really nice, and more good stuff on your blog.

I'm not tempted at all. Really not.

Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Fenton on 23 January 2014, 09:26:36 PM
Good work...blog is great to
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: nikharwood on 23 January 2014, 09:27:22 PM
Nicely done - looking forward to seeing your Mongols  :)
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Post by: get2grips on 23 January 2014, 09:52:28 PM
Very nice ;)
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Leon on 23 January 2014, 09:54:04 PM
Looking good!
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Post by: Womble67 on 23 January 2014, 10:34:55 PM
Very nice indeed

take care

andy
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Techno on 24 January 2014, 07:36:24 AM
Great stuff !
Good blog too !
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Steve J on 24 January 2014, 07:57:42 AM
Nice work and I like the unified look with the red, plus the different shield designs.
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Hertsblue on 24 January 2014, 11:29:54 AM
Nice looking unit, Subedai.  :-bd
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Subedai on 24 January 2014, 03:10:04 PM
Thanks for the comments all.

Quote from: Steve J on 24 January 2014, 07:57:42 AM
Nice work and I like the unified look with the red, plus the different shield designs.

The predominant colour in Polish heraldry, as far as shield fields were concerned, was red albeit possibly a darker red than I have used, otherwise it was azure blue...and that's about it. I have tracked down 49 clans that had lands in or around the areas where the Mongols had their Walkabout in Poland, 33 have a red field, 7 have azure blue and the others are an eclectic mix of split or plain colours. I even found one clan that used a Newcastle United colour scheme (black and white vertical stripes).

I have used each base as a different clan but may increase the number of bases to form complete units (3 of 60 x 40mm bases) at a later date. As I mention on my blog the problem is that the devices were taken from ancient clan marks and not family designs so there are large numbers of families from different parts of the country all using the same device. :-/
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Sandinista on 24 January 2014, 04:00:21 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 24 January 2014, 03:10:04 PM
I even found one clan that used a Newcastle United colour scheme (black and white vertical stripes).

I hope the Mongol's sorted them out  ;)

Though you could have one of that clan punching a horse  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Steve J on 24 January 2014, 04:44:03 PM
BTW a great Blog and very useful info on Polish 'heraldry' Subedai :). The plastic Russians are rather nice and will be useful reference for my Baltic Crusades forces.
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Subedai on 24 January 2014, 07:29:48 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 24 January 2014, 04:44:03 PM
BTW a great Blog and very useful info on Polish 'heraldry' Subedai :). The plastic Russians are rather nice and will be useful reference for my Baltic Crusades forces.

Thanks again. I;m trying to keep a running commentary on the Polish but I think some of the new Mongols will sidetrack me every so often. On top of finishing the first Mongol unit -just needs the bases sorting- I have another unit of Polish cavalry two-thirds finished and the start of a unit of levy infantry. Only 210 infantry and another 45 cavalry to go for the Polish after that, although one of the Polish cavalry units will be the Knights Templar. There were a total of 500 at the battle of Liegnitz but I am using a bit of wargaming license here in doing the whole unit as cavalry even though the reality was that there were only 88 mounted men, the rest were  infantry of varying types but it will look good and that's the point.

If anyone is interested in the contemporary Polish nobility shield info I have, just PM me with an email address and I will send you a copy as a Word file.
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: nikharwood on 24 January 2014, 11:10:45 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 24 January 2014, 07:29:48 PM
Thanks again. I;m trying to keep a running commentary on the Polish but I think some of the new Mongols will sidetrack me every so often. On top of finishing the first Mongol unit -just needs the bases sorting- I have another unit of Polish cavalry two-thirds finished and the start of a unit of levy infantry. Only 210 infantry and another 45 cavalry to go for the Polish after that, although one of the Polish cavalry units will be the Knights Templar. There were a total of 500 at the battle of Liegnitz but I am using a bit of wargaming license here in doing the whole unit as cavalry even though the reality was that there were only 88 mounted men, the rest were  infantry of varying types but it will look good and that's the point.

If anyone is interested in the contemporary Polish nobility shield info I have, just PM me with an email address and I will send you a copy as a Word file.

Excellent...PM inbound  8)
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Bishop Lord on 25 January 2014, 06:28:34 PM
nice :)

Jason
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Subedai on 31 January 2014, 07:47:59 PM
Next unit of Polish cavalry is complete.

More pictures and information about the heraldry on the blog.

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad152/subedai/10mm%20Figures/Medieval%20Polish/DSCI0016.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 January 2014, 08:12:05 PM
Lovely work! 8)
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Steve J on 31 January 2014, 08:36:38 PM
Excellent work once again 8).
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: get2grips on 31 January 2014, 08:51:40 PM
Shhh :-$

No-one tell him about the painting competition :D
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Womble67 on 01 February 2014, 12:11:38 AM
Just lovely

take care

andy
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: nikharwood on 01 February 2014, 08:09:41 AM
Very nice indeed  8)
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Hertsblue on 01 February 2014, 10:08:09 AM
Excellent, Subedai. Do I get the impression the first and last are related?
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Jim Ando on 01 February 2014, 10:23:45 AM

We`re never going to live down the horse punching episode are we :'(.

Jim

(Toon fan)
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Subedai on 01 February 2014, 10:37:35 AM
Ta for the comments chaps.

Quote from: Hertsblue on 01 February 2014, 10:08:09 AM
Excellent, Subedai. Do I get the impression the first and last are related?

Not to my knowledge. If you have a quick gander at the blog, I've written a small, introductory laymans piece (I'm the layman by the way) on Polish heraldry. It's different to western Europe in a number of interesting ways...not least that it's a lot easier to paint!  :)
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Subedai on 11 February 2014, 03:40:51 PM
As we are only allowed two pics in the competition I thought I'd put a few more here of the Templar base I have painted. My units are in 3's and the other two bases -of guest knights and their sergeants- will be along on the next bus.

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad152/subedai/10mm%20Figures/Medieval%20Polish/d0856c53-6367-4012-83d3-31b613a1013b.jpg)

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad152/subedai/10mm%20Figures/Medieval%20Polish/69496761-83cd-4923-b911-9fd5632e8f3d.jpg)

and from the other, less shielded so less glamorous side...
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad152/subedai/10mm%20Figures/Medieval%20Polish/f8d99ed6-c870-41eb-8997-fc6a78b9c049.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: kev1964 on 11 February 2014, 06:00:16 PM
Very nice Subedai,  i'ts nice to see painted shields/standards, looking forward to seeing more of these,


kev
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Subedai on 11 February 2014, 07:09:10 PM
Cheers for that, Kev. I always paint my own shields -some good, some not so. That's one of the good thing about Polish heraldry of the time, no quartering, no bars -sinister or otherwise. I would really hate to try and paint an English, French or German quartered shield with different charges in each quarter in 10mm. Some of the guest knights have quartered but they are all plain (that's why I chose them). I mean, my 25mm lions on an ECW standard were once described as being more like growling rats.
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Subedai on 13 February 2014, 12:15:38 PM
Here is the first unit of levy infantry. More photos and information on my blog.
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad152/subedai/10mm%20Figures/Medieval%20Polish/e2f3f37f-c7f4-42d4-9ba8-b3b9a37fc919.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Bishop Lord on 18 February 2014, 08:27:09 PM
I'm liking these, I've probably missed this info, but what system are they based for?

Jason.
Title: Re: Some Late Medieval Polish
Post by: Subedai on 18 February 2014, 08:55:37 PM
Quote from: Bishop Lord on 18 February 2014, 08:27:09 PM
I'm liking these, I've probably missed this info, but what system are they based for?

Jason.

Thanks Jason,
I don't base to any particular rule system and apart from the occasional commander everything goes on 60 x 40mm and as I normally do both sides all the base sizes are immaterial. If the rules specify a certain base size for LI and another for HI etc, I move on and check out another set. At the moment I'm looking at Impetus.