A new year, a shiny new diary topic.
Last year's topic, had 150 posts and nearly 4000 views - 2012's thread has managed to gain 3600 extra views since I stopped posting to it...
2013 http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6626.0.html
2012 http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4379.0.html
2013 saw lots of painting and gaming - but big gaps in posting.
At the start of 2013 I had the following list of likely painting targets
- Finish Araby Army
- Late Romans
- Lizardmen
- German Paras
And most of those were side stepped - I managed to paint up some more Araby, but mainly new figures!!
I did finish a couple of armies though
28mm WoTR
10mm Forces of Nature
Plus 28mm gangs for IHMN and Saga
My 10mm WWII has had some use (and rebasing) for CoC
KoW was probably the most played ruleset - though lately we have been playing a version with random activations.
For the coming year I have got Mongols coming, and £100 prize to spend - which I have been putting together some WWI lists, but want to wait for the new release before finalising this.
I would also like to make progress with the Lizardmen army, as I have painted up some of the figures as Salamanders for Forces of Nature, and they paint up nicely, and quickly!
Anyway, enough chat, on with the pictures
These two are really left overs from last year.
GW Empire Skirmishers (Santa's Skirmishers) - flocked the bases, these are now finished
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WWI British - 1914
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A couple of battalions of Infantry, with a regiment of 18pdrs
I've had these figures for ages, and have re-based them and painted them. They were very quick and easy to paint compared to the French, a few shades of brown and they're done. I went with 'Dead Flesh' for the webbing, as the photos I could find show a very yellow colour for the webbing.
Nice!!
Next up a couple of new troop types for my Forces of Nature Army
First up 3 troops of Centaurs
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In KoW these are fairly light cavalry - hence I have gone for an open order on the bases, which allows for some scenic additions. I am pleased with how these have come out, at first they were looking very brown, but it seems to have come together at the end. I do like using the bigger bases, after years of 40x20 warmaster bases, using unit sized bases gives a lot of freedom.
The second batch of Centaurs base-coated.
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Two Troops of Gnomes
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These are Earth sprits that are defensively strong troops in KoW - the figures have a lot of character, but don't exactly seem in scale with each other. While quite short they are very broad. They work well for what I need them for here, but not sure how generally useful they are. These got a quick two shades of brown dry-brushing - then details picked out in dark grey. The bases need finishing off- though getting into the middles may be hard!
The only remaining unit type I need to finish my Forces of Nature army are Naiads - water spirits - but I can't find any figures I like for these.
Looking goof Fred..Can you give us any more info on the random activation for KOW?
goof - hey!! I'll assume that's a typo
Random activation - basically each side has a colour, and places a bead of that colour for each unit, into a bag.
Draw 1 bead at once, that player gets to activate a unit, and play through its full turn (move, shoot or fight). In a fight the enemy unit is allowed to fight back. Both units may have to take nerve tests, both might rout.
Mixes up the order a lot - keeps both players more involved. Some of our group really disliked the passiveness during the other player's turn.
Does slow the game down a bit, but you generally need fewer turns due to more fighting and more nerve checks.
Drop me a PM and I can email you the full document detailing the above (and our house rules replicating WM style flanks)
Cheers Fred
I still think the figures are looking good
All looking great Fred! 8)
looking good :D
Very 8) !
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks chaps.
Busy cleaning up some late WWI Germans - but fear I may have missed the bright bit in the weather to get out and get them sprayed :(
Something a bit different the last couple of days - some buildings
Some houses from Total Battle Miniatures
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These are really nice - I've only had them sitting around for a year or so...
And some walls
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Front ones could be Kerr and King, back ones are from Battle of Five armies box set - not sure quite how old these two are but a good few years
Also built up a little kit of a ruin from some Hirst Arts blocks - but forgot to take a photo :-[
Looking good Fred
Nice work
take care
andy
Very nice work again Fred !
Cheers - Phil
Yes, I've been looking at TBM buildings myself. If they'd do something a little more eastern I'd jump at them. Yours are very nicely done, Fred.
Built up this mini kit of some ruins - it is made from some Hirst Arts blocks, that came cast up in a kit with various flocks and basing materials.
Not sure if the blocks are a bit big for 10mm, but it can always be a giant's tower!
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With a Pendraken Druid
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Looks good to me!
It's great. 8)
:-bd
Maybe the blocks are bit on the big side. :-\..But it still works very well.
Cheers - Phil
Looks good to me! At the end of the 1st LOTR film, there's some ruins during Boromir's final fight which are similarly sized, so they look right to me.
Yeah, medieval fortifications could use huge blocks of whatever stone was available.
So already this is turning in to infrequent posts - listing what I have done in the last week rather than more frequent updates.
Anyway.
Played KoW both this Friday and last week - we have invented a brigade activation system, which actually seems to work quite well, at both cutting up the turns between players, and keeping a multi-player game moving along.
This week it was a 5 player game, with my as an Araby force waiting for a relief column of Undead to cross the board, between us was an Orc and Goblin horde.
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This is the view from my position, Pendraken Ottoman Turk hand gunners and artillery doing sterling work holding up the Orc Chariots. My artillery was very effective this week - surviving most of the game and causing a lot of damage especially late on.
The Orcs in the village in the middle sat there as a blocking force most of the game, while the undead shambled forward very slowly. The Orc cavalry on the left caused lots of damage to me, but I killed them all but a couple of heroes, the goblins (out of picture to the left) cleared out my left hand brigade, but at a very heavy cost.
The undead managed to keep the supply carts, which was enough for a minor victory, yeah!
Total Battle Village
Found the base mat that came with this, and gave it a quick coat of paint, picked out the walls and hedges, and a bit of flock - it has come out rather nicely.
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And with the houses in position - a couple are still at a very basic level of painting.
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That is superb Fred ;)
Looks really good Fred
I presume the brigade idea is something similar to the way Warmaster ran it?
GW Hill
Some time ago (a good few years) I got the Battle of Five Armies box set from GW, this was a great set with lots of figures, and scenery and a version of the Warmaster rules.
One of the more useful pieces of scenery is the GW modular hill - well half of it any way. Last year I got another 2 pieces of the hill to make a single large hill - or two promontories.
So finally painted up the second 2 pieces last week, using a rather nice craft paint from Hobby Craft - why it had taken so long to getting round to painting this, when it took so little time, I don't know.
The hill can be assembled in two ways.
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It can also be combined with the other 2 pieces to make a nice big hill - which I did this morning. Then was interrupted by someone at the door, and forgot that I hadn't actually taken a photo of the big hill, and put all the bits away again....
:-[
Mega, mega 8)
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks chaps - the TBM houses really come up nicely with some quite simple painting
Quote from: Fenton on 18 January 2014, 01:31:08 PM
I presume the brigade idea is something similar to the way Warmaster ran it?
A bit. Its actually a bit simpler - you divide your army into brigades, last night the different players had 2, 2, 3, 4 or 4 brigades each. The bridge must deploy together. But after that can move apart. Then we draw coloured beads to see which side activates (the total number of beads is equal to the maximum brigades on a side). Then each player on that side activates their brigade, and plays a mini turn with that brigade.
Works better than the single activation as it allows multiple attacks against a defender, and speeds things up, as you can move units together.
Mongols
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Big parcel this morning from you know who.
Light cavalry on the left, heavies and command in the middle, foot archers then civilians on the right.
The figures look really nice - I think I may need a few more mounted archers - as I wanted to get all the packs for variety, so have ended up with quite a few spear and sword armed chaps.
The camp followers are very nice - have to work out how to use them.
The foot command are really nice - again have to work out how to fit them into a cavalry army.
WWI Reinforcements
Also in the jiffy bag were several French guns and a few extra 1914 British.
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Along with an earlier delivery from another manufacturer (shh!) I now have enough for a 1914 Division of French infantry with a couple of regiments of cavalry, and a brigade of British.
and finally for this week's catch-up
Late War WWI Germans
A regiment of troops for GWSH - just a couple of colours so far. Its taken a fair bit of googling to find out the colours of all their various bits of kit - of which the answer seems to be brown, light brown and dark grey.
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With single colour uniforms the figures really paint up quickly.
I used a new brand of spray paint to under coat these - Kobra which is available from Amazon at around £5 for a can. Seems to be a nice paint, with good coverage, very matt, and comes in lots of colours too.
Is there some kind of conspiracy showing me lovely WWI stuff?
Now I want Mespot, 1914 and 1917!
Quote from: fsn on 18 January 2014, 01:45:48 PM
Is there some kind of conspiracy showing me lovely WWI stuff?
Now I want Mespot, 1914 and 1917!
Yes
Very nice Fred! 8)
Sshh. We're not supposed to talk about the conspiracy.
8)
Quote from: fred 12df on 18 January 2014, 02:23:34 PM
Sshh. We're not supposed to talk about the conspiracy.
8)
Sorry...I have mentioned it once but I think I got away with it
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French artillery cleaned and assembled (a Mongol old man has crept in at the back!)
First 20 or so Mongols cleaned and on painting sticks
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The 5th leg is a bit fiddly to remove, especially on the horses where their legs come together. I've also managed to snap a couple of bows off the firing poses. The figures look very dynamic, and on rough basing attempts look suitably horde like.
Looking good!
Quote
The 5th leg is a bit fiddly to remove, especially on the horses where their legs come together. I've also managed to snap a couple of bows off the firing poses. The figures look very dynamic, and on rough basing attempts look suitably horde like.
Let me know how many breakages, and I'll send some replacements out. The feed under the horse can be tricky on that pose, I usually use a pair of small clippers for the bulk of it and then file the stub off.
Nice work there 8)
8)
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Leon on 18 January 2014, 11:14:40 PM
Let me know how many breakages, and I'll send some replacements out. The feed under the horse can be tricky on that pose, I usually use a pair of small clippers for the bulk of it and then file the stub off.
Thanks for the offer Leon, I'll let you know if I need any replacements.
The rest of you, minds in the gutter. :o :D
Today back to
WWI GermansPainted most of the details in today - was able to paint in the conservatory in the sun this afternoon, while the rest of the family were out at a panto.
Made a start on basing tonight - going for the sea of mud look, so although these feel like they have taken a while to base, they are nearly done.
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From the top down,
A battalion of Stosstroopen, a infantry battalion, command and support weapons, and finally tripod MG08s
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A slightly different angle
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2nd and 3rd battalions ready for basing.
Also spray painted the French guns and Mongols - but can't be bothered with photos of them - just imagine the ones above in black or brown respectively rather than silver. :P
Good look batch of Germans.
Great job on the germans!
Thanks chaps.
They are looking a touch blue in these photos ( as well as shiney )
Very nice as always
take care
andy
More progress with the WWI Germans
The 1st Regiment based
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Added a few bits of wire to some of the bases.
Need to give them a spray of dull cote, then will put a bit of water in to the shell holes
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Superb! Just great.
Don't tell fsn, where his centurion is...
What centurion guv! ;)
Interesting that we have taken opposing aesthetic choices to the period.
Those are very nice figures.
Coming together nicely 8)
Thanks chaps.
Quote from: fateeore on 21 January 2014, 11:22:57 PM
Interesting that we have taken opposing aesthetic choices to the period.
I am very much thinking of these as 1917/18 figures. When the battle fields had been worked over by artillery for years, hence the mud basing. If you look back at page 1 my British have a more traditional green and brown basing scheme. I has assumed that you where going for a 1915 look with the mix of early and late war figures, along with green basing.
Ultimately it's all down to what fits each of our pre-conceptions of the period, as to what looks right.
Those look terrific Fred. :-bd
Cheers - Phil.
really nice Fred 8)
I think the mud affect is really effective.
Thanks chaps.
Not much painting this week - a bit of work on some walls and some buildings (which IIRC came from a certain Mr Harwood) but these need a bit of finishing off to be worth a photo.
My copy of Black Powder arrived today - bought in Warlord's sale - so I have spent much of the day reading it and futzing around with my Malburian figures to see what sort of units I can make. I've played a lot of HC, and quite liked elements of it - bit it was a bit fiddly in places - BP seems to be more streamlined, which sounds good.
I think that for 10mm, then 6 x 20x20mm bases will make a good standard unit, with 4 infantry to a base this gives 24 figures for a unit, the same as used in 28mm. And use half-distances and ranges. The distances as written require a huge space to play in - with infantry moving up to 36" with a triple order.
I have a fair few figures already on 40x20mm bases, which I think will work fine (and probably better, as the 20x20 bases can be a bit fiddly to move around). For early period troops, the two main formations seem to be line, and march column. Seeing how dangerous march column is to troops in it, and the small benefit it conveys, how much is march column used in a game? If its barely used I will probably stick to 40x20 bases for infantry as they are more practical.
When we use march columns or formation changes (dash those huge bases of mine), we just declare it, or put a marker next to it.
On the occasions I use march column it is usually bringing troops onto the table and they don't stay in that formation for long.
Mad Lemmy's method is good.
If you want the March Column to be the correct dimensions you could use 20x40s side edge forward and swap the facing of alternate stands to differentiate from troops in line.
Or you could have a few 20x20 bases for the purpose & swap to your 20x40s once properly deployed but I would only do that if you think it's worthwhile after a couple of games.
That's good to know chaps.
In Maurice march column was used moderately often - as it was the only way to move quickly - and we did use the side on 40x20 bases to represent this.
But in HC I think we only ever used a march formation as part of a scenario.
I think I will mainly go with 40x20 for infantry. I may even go with some 60x40 bases for cavalry, to give a bit more space to arrange figures.
Lemmy - do you use a single one of your large bases as a unit in BP?
Yes Fred,
just because I started in regimental Volley & Bayonet, and cannot be asked to rebase!
My AWI is on pairs of bases (regimental inflexibility) So they can make line, column (turn sideways), square (back to back) and attack column (ione behind t'other). My opponent's British are on three bases, so he can make proper columns, just the same frontage as mine (2 x 60 vs 3 x 40)!
Hi fred great set of rules we use them loads at the club. The best part is they are extremely adaptable
take care
andy
Got a bit of painting done yesterday, and some basing tonight.
Some walls - these are quite tall walls - good for blocking line of sight
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WWI French
This is the artillery for my 1914 French Division, mainly the quick firing 75s, with a few 155s.
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I had been thinking about adding some shell cases to the bases, but there doesn't look to be a lot of space now.
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Also a stand of Sappeurs - as far as I can tell (from Google!) the French shirts were dark blue. I think these figures are from the FPW range, a handy pack of working chaps, useful for most modernish periods.
Nicely done: love the bases Fred :-bd
Great stuff Fred !
Cheers - Phil.
Great job! Sappeurs look nice!
:-bd :-bd
Thanks (again) chaps!
Glad you like the look of the bases - these are my standard ones, sand painted brown, dry brushed pale sandy colour, then flocked in clumps, using a nice mix of different colour flocks.
I've just added a few spent shell casings (bits of brass rod) to 3 of the stands.
The Sapperurs do look rather nice, perhaps its the red trousers. When painting the artillery crews, the chap standing with the shell looked rather like a modern para-military, in his dark blue uniform, peeked cap and bloused trousers in boots. Painting the red stripes and the bread bag, make him look more 1914ish - or 1870 ish...
Superb work Fred. Your output so far this year is astonishing.
Quote from: fred 12df on 28 January 2014, 06:59:44 PM
Glad you like the look of the bases - these are my standard ones, sand painted brown, dry brushed pale sandy colour, then flocked in clumps, using a nice mix of different colour flocks.
Yeah, it's the different colour flocks that add texture. Good job :)
Yes lovely work as always, some times you can end up over crowding a base.
take care
andy
Nice looking artillery there, Fred, and lots of it. I pity the PBI. :'(
Quote from: mad lemmey on 28 January 2014, 07:04:55 PM
Your output so far this year is astonishing.
Thanks - I've been quite focused (for once) and aimed to finish stuff off, and produce stuff that is usable, either terrain, or additions to armies to make the armies playable. This seems to help me actual get stuff finished.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 29 January 2014, 10:40:54 AM
Nice looking artillery there, Fred, and lots of it. I pity the PBI. :'(
Tis a lot of arty - and really there is a lot more infantry to come, but the arty is much quicker to get done.
Quote from: Womble67 on 28 January 2014, 10:02:16 PM
Yes lovely work as always, some times you can end up over crowding a base.
Thanks Andy - just seen that you are in Grimsby - I grew up in North Lincs (near Louth) and remember visiting a great war games and RPG shop, that was next door to MacDonalds in the centre of Grimbsy (perhaps 25 years ago :o )
Hi Fred I'm not from Grimsby originally, but the model shop your referring to is dave hewins model shop which used to be next door to McDonald's. And would you believe he's still trading but unfortunately retires this year. His shop is down a small ally way on the same st
take care
andy
There was a very big parcel on the doormat tonight!!!
This was the figures from the Forum 100k prize from just before Christmas (it had taken me a while to decide on what I wanted!)
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Major pile of WWI goodies
And do I really need all those bases?
And of course Thanks to Leon and Dave!!
There's nothing better than receiving a parcel from pendraken.
take care
andy
...except receiving two parcels from Pendraken!
Nice to see your painting area looks as cluttered and messy as mine
That's a great haul Fred! (Starts reading codes to see what Fred's up too) Ooooohhh shiny!
Hells bells, Fred, I thought my painting area was a train-wreck..... :o
Hang on...hang on...
Are we all liking Fred again now? No-one told me :-\
We had a meeting....Did your invitation get cough lost again ...
Quote from: Fenton on 13 February 2014, 09:30:39 AM
We had a meeting....Did your invitation get cough lost again ...
Yeah...that seems to happen a lot :-\ :P :)
Maybe if we stopped putting it in a package including 5 paints for extra stability , that might help
Quote from: Fenton on 13 February 2014, 09:48:02 AM
Maybe if we stopped putting it in a package including 5 paints for extra stability , that might help
5 paints, 5 paints!!! :o :o :o
The world will end!
A Royal Mail lorry was carrying a package, with 5 paints in it, along the M2; see what happened there.
Quote from: fred 12df on 12 February 2014, 09:22:55 PM
And of course Thanks to Leon and Dave!!
:-bd
No worries, looking forward to seeing them in the painting diary!
Quote from: get2grips on 13 February 2014, 09:12:07 AM
Hang on...hang on...
Are we all liking Fred again now? No-one told me :-\
It's too late to recall the flying monkeys!
Quote from: fsn on 13 February 2014, 12:29:52 PM
It's too late to recall the flying monkeys!
Oh my bad...
...one of those came: I thought it was a Waitrose delivery and cooked it ;)
Waitrose - you'll be buying from Muck and Sh1te soon....
IanS
Quote from: mad lemmey on 12 February 2014, 11:24:46 PM
That's a great haul Fred! (Starts reading codes to see what Fred's up too) Ooooohhh shiny!
Lots of WWI guns - for the Germans and British, all in steel helmets for late war. Got most of the German ones glued together.
Quote from: Fenton on 12 February 2014, 11:09:28 PM
Nice to see your painting area looks as cluttered and messy as mine
Quote from: Hertsblue on 13 February 2014, 08:37:07 AM
Hells bells, Fred, I thought my painting area was a train-wreck..... :o
It does look bad in that photo - its not normally quite
that bad
Quote from: get2grips on 13 February 2014, 09:12:07 AM
Are we all liking Fred again now? No-one told me :-\
>:(
Jealousy its not good - but understandable !! :P
Quote from: Leon on 13 February 2014, 10:08:45 AM
looking forward to seeing them in the painting diary!
If I pull my finger out a few may even get into the painting comp....
Time to have a bit of a think about the painting comp.
Although the standard of some of the entries is so good, that I'm not sure I'm going to do much more than make up the numbers.
So some of the options I have available
Open Single Base
French WWI Artillery
Ottoman Guns
WWI Germans ?
Open Army
WWI Germans
Nature army (need to check how many stands I have that are pure Pendraken, as this army came from a variety of sources)
Mounted
Centaurs?
WWI Germans?
Mongols?
Foot 20th C
WWI Germans
1914 British
Foot pre 20th C
Pike block
Ottoman hand gunners
Fantasy / Sci Fi
Various options from Nature Army here
Vehicles
British WWI MkIV Tank
So I need to get the WWI German Guns and Cavalry spray painted to at least make a start. Same with the Mk IV tank.
Most of the others, just need to check and photograph. Even though the closing date is the 28th, as that is a Friday, it makes taking photos in daylight a bit more challenging - so really could do with stuff ready by this coming weekend to allow the taking of photos.
Well the German guns and cavalry got sprayed - and thats as far as they got.
The Tank did rather better - and was painted, and detailed, and muddied up in time for the comp.
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Here it is crossing the deadly carpet land...
I do need to sort out some terrain / ground cloth for WWI, to my mind it needs to be brown / muddy - it looks really odd to me to see WWI trench battles on a green cloth.
I have gone for brown / khaki for the tank colour as this seems to be the consensus of the colour they were painted at the time - even though a lot of examples show green, which was apparently a post-war colour???
I managed an entry in each category of the comp - though a couple of my entries feel a bit weak to me.
When I checked my Nature army in detail rather a lot had to be left out as it wasn't Pendraken, most of the stands of forest creatures while having quite a bit of Pendraken on, also have a good variety of other peoples figures too.
Tried out some new rules last night - Seasons of War - as have been blogged about by Bishop Lord http://www.redwyverngames.com/seasons-of-war/4581304756
The rules are designed for 10mm, and Warmaster 40x20mm basing. Units are rated by different dice for their stats rather than simple scores. Rather than the WM style command roll, there is a discipline roll, that you will usually make, but on a 1 your unit will undertake a rash action. If you roll high you can do more complex actions.
For a first game it went remarkably well - by about half-way we knew what we where doing (well as much as ever...)
The combat is attritional, most combats will last several turns, and can swing one way or the other as more units get fed in. The dice based stats and mechanisms seem to differentiate units well. We are busy inventing fantasy add-ons (as always).
If you want to buy a copy, I'd recommend the PDF version, as you get two versions, one in full colour with lots photos, and with a light weight version with white background and hyperlinks. The printed book, is unfortunately in grey scale, and I found it a bit hard to read, due to the background images.
You do need a fair few (6 or more) of d4s and d8s, so I have been shopping for a few more today!
Love that tank! All your entries were good this year mate.
There are a lot of aerial photos and maps of the front, which should allow you to work out the lines. I would go for parallel pairs of trenches if I were contemplating building them, but definitely in a modular build so I could fight different parts of the front. German trenches tended to be better than British ones as the British High Command didn't like our troops to be too comfortable at the front!
Not all was like the latter days of the Somme, but Carpetland looks pretty good, nice straight furrows your farmers plough there!
Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 March 2014, 06:03:35 PM
Love that tank! All your entries were good this year mate.
Thanks!
Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 March 2014, 06:03:35 PM
There are a lot of aerial photos and maps of the front, which should allow you to work out the lines. I would go for parallel pairs of trenches if I were contemplating building them, but definitely in a modular build so I could fight different parts of the front. German trenches tended to be better than British ones as the British High Command didn't like our troops to be too comfortable at the front!
Not all was like the latter days of the Somme, but Carpetland looks pretty good, nice straight furrows your farmers plough there!
Carpet land was picked up to provide a few fields to break up my terrain a bit. But its not very Western Front!
At the minute I'm thinking of using Greatwar Spearhead - so each base is a company, which makes the trench lines pretty much just lines! But I do fancy doing a couple of feet of terrain boards at 10mm ground scale of some trenches, to use with rules like Through the Mud and Blood, or even Chain of Command.
There are terrain mats with photo printed trenches available, a mate has one for WWI Wings of War. I'll faceache message him and see where he got it from, even if you eschrew purchasement it mahaps provide inspiration. 8)
www.terrainmat.com hand makes them.
Ta, they look rather nice. Not sure I want to spend quite that much, but should give some ideas for DIY.
That would be my route too!
Made a start on the German WWI artillery
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Did 7 in a grey colour - though I wonder if its still a bit too dark.
The foreground 15cm guns are in dapple camo - the green dots though barely show up against the grey, but in B&W photos they look much darker.
I've also found a funky light blue scheme that might get used on some of the guns...
Quote from: fred 12df on 02 March 2014, 09:58:16 PM
Did 7 in a grey colour - though I wonder if its still a bit too dark.
Not to my eyes Fred.
Cheers - Phil
I recognise that spotty paint scheme, Fred. It could only have come from the dawn of camouflage art, couldn't it? :D
Yes, I hadn't known just how mad some of the German WWI artillery camo was. And I think the spotty one is at least second generation.
Quote from: Techno on 03 March 2014, 07:40:32 AM
Not to my eyes Fred.
Cheers - Phil
Thanks Phil, always good to get corroboration from someone who was there.
;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I hate you !! ;)
Cheers - Phil
More WWI German guns
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Block painted at the minute - need to add some black lining, and a bit of shading
And this is based on a photo of a real gun!
Although the photos have come out a bit reddish and bright - the brown on the guns (and the horses in the background is much darker)
Those are funky 8)
Those are cool! 8)
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8) are required
:-bd
Cheers - Phil
Would have thought the wheel-rims would be bare metal after being dragged across the battlefield a few times?
Quote from: Hertsblue on 04 March 2014, 09:54:09 AM
Would have thought the wheel-rims would be bare metal after being dragged across the battlefield a few times?
Picky :)
Fresh off the supply train inmho ;)
Just thinking about their crazy-looking aircraft paint jobs; the guns don't look so surprising after that.
Great work Fred, especially the tank. It's not my era at all, but i'm sure i have seen similar camo on some helmets. Can i ask what code is the field gun with the pads on the wheels , after seeing all these i'm a bit tempted to get a few,
thanks,
kev
Quote from: Hertsblue on 04 March 2014, 09:54:09 AM
Would have thought the wheel-rims would be bare metal after being dragged across the battlefield a few times?
Fair point - on the photo I am working off the gun appears to bare metal rims on the wheels. I'll decide if I want pretty, or more realistic.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 04 March 2014, 01:29:43 PM
Just thinking about their crazy-looking aircraft paint jobs; the guns don't look so surprising after that.
No, the multi-coloured ones are quite early (1915-16) from what I have read - they phased out some of the more garish colours by 1917, leaving the more familiar sand/green/brown tricolour camo, which was used on helmets as well. But the dapple one seems to be have been used late war, which looks very strange to us.
Quote from: kev1964 on 04 March 2014, 02:06:22 PM
Great work Fred, especially the tank. It's not my era at all, but i'm sure i have seen similar camo on some helmets. Can i ask what code is the field gun with the pads on the wheels , after seeing all these i'm a bit tempted to get a few,
Thanks Kev. I liked painting up the tank, there are few more waiting to join it too.
I think the gun you mean is the 21cm Morser - GP9a - this is my favourite too, its a big gun with the wheels nearly the height of a figure. I haven't decided which colour scheme to go with for them.
Pity. I like the "crazy paving" effect. One last flash of visual spectacle before gray and khaki take over the world and wargaming stops getting new armies worth painting.
Thank's Fred, looking forward to seeing more,
kev
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 March 2014, 02:00:05 AM
Pity. I like the "crazy paving" effect. One last flash of visual spectacle before gray and khaki take over the world and wargaming stops getting new armies worth painting.
Even the 1917/8 ones are quite funky, just with slightly fewer bright colours.
I quite like khaki or field grey armies - it really speeds up the painting.
Very nice that artillery will look fantastic once you have black lined it
take care
andy
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Black lined the guns, and the wheel rims
Also made a start on the gun crews, with a quick over brush of field grey. I am trying to work out what colour I used for the helmets of the infantry. Perhaps I need to remember to write the colours in here as I go along.
Guns looking great Fred, the metal rims add to the look ;)
QuoteGuns looking great Fred, the metal rims add to the look
totally agree. coming on nicely Fred 8)
See, I don't talk drivel all the time.... ;)
Very very nice Fred, that black line just finish's them off,
kev
Good work Fred
I have seen pics with the wheel rims painted as well but this was probably straight from the factory and wore off quite quickly
Played IHMN on Friday - first time in ages, two fun games in the evening.
So I have been painting a bit of Victorian 28mm since then
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Some brave red coats - block painted at this stage, some highlights and general detailing to do.
Having read Kev's painting tips, I attempted to black line these - with not too great a success, other than the webbing. I think I keep filling in the black lines, as when I turn the figure round to another angle, it looks like I have missed bits.
Nik, do these look familiar? Can you remember what manufacturer they are?
Very cool
What's IHMN like? What does the second book offer more to the game?
Quote from: marie on 11 March 2014, 11:14:27 PM
Very cool
Thanks, Marie
Quote from: petercooman on 11 March 2014, 11:33:39 PM
What's IHMN like? What does the second book offer more to the game?
IHMN is good fun, it is more on the narrative / RPG side of a rules set than a tight tournament set. The rules are deadly to the low value troops in your company, the more powerful ones can be quite durable, which adds to the narrative style of the heroes breaking through the hordes.
Some of the simple scenarios can be a bit basic, but if you add in some of the 'complications' that are provided then things get more interesting.
The second book adds a good few useful bits and pieces to the general rules, and a huge number (20+) new adventuring companies. As the rules are about £8 from amazon they are a bargain.
Thanks!
i have ordered some chronoscape models and was wondering what to do with them! just couldn't resist sacha the timechaser :P
Craig and I are having our first IHMN games on Friday, so expect a bit more feedback then :).
:-bd
In case you don't know wich model i'm talking about, it's this one:
(http://www.tabletopempires.com.au/image/cache/data/Reaper/Chronoscope/50001_p_haley_1-600x600.jpg)
It just appealed to me, and made me look up all sorts of steampunk stuff for wargaming.
Peter - The painted version looks much better than the one on the website.
Steve - expect a fair bit of flicking through the book on the first game, as the rules cross reference them selves quite a bit. Its well worth making an army list which shows all the weapons for each figure, as this really speeds things up, by having the weapon stats to hand, as they add to the character stats.
Yes it does!
But to be honest, even if they aren't the best quality, i was able to buy 17 minis for 1£ per piece on the LAF. So no big loss :D
Got a bunch of random stuff, a cowboy, the timechaser , some zombie survivor guys and some fantasy stuff.
Hi Fred, nice to see your WWI Germans in action on another forum ;)
Watch your flanks :)
Thanks Paul, fortunately I was the French so the Germans fell into my trap!
Not too much painting in the last week, combination of real life, and feeling poorly.
But did manage to get some german artillery crews painted, up, and got 8 guns based. Need to just finish off the other 5, and most of my WWI German artillery is done. I do need to find a few heavy trench mortars from somewhere though.
Also have most of the late war cavalry painted as well - a bit of finishing off need still though.
All of this was to enable the first game of Great War Spearhead II
First game of Great War Spearhead II
We tried the Rolling with the Punches scenario http://www.wargaming.org.nz/rolling_with_the_punches.html
Using my Late War Germans vs my Magister Militum French (1914) - I know they are out of period with each other, but my mate is being slow with painting his early war Germans.
The Germans deployed in a broad line, and charged forward. They had decided that all the French were behind the river. This proved rather costly as a battalion or so of French in the wood opened fire into their flank.
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This is after the firing - the Germans used to reach all the way to the wood.
The Germans threw their cavalry across the bridge, which just resulted in concentrated firing on them, with rather predictable results. The firing also continued from the wood. German return fire was poor.
Eventually the German left flank got into range of the defenders in the village (and were also out of range of the ones in the wood. In the final two turns concentrated German fire told on the defenders - but it was too late, and the attack had stalled north of the river.
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The defenders in the wood, ended up charging the now exposed german field guns, driving off the first, and then shooting up the second, as their command zone wouldn't let them get any further.
We stumbled around a bit for the first couple of turns, but soon seem to get the feel for the rules - and more importantly how the stands and formations behave.
I think we both appreciated that a good attack has to get some fire in on the defenders early, don't just march forward and hope. Flanking fire was deadly as multiple attackers can pick on a single target - whereas when troops are facing each other, the firing has to be more spread out.
The game was good - and we are both busy getting more troops done. I have based up another regiment of French, who will hopefully get flocked this evening.
Quote from: fred 12df on 23 March 2014, 08:34:17 AM
Thanks Paul, fortunately I was the French so the Germans fell into my trap!
And a very well executed trap it was ;)
Good stuff, Fred.
Thanks for sharing !
Cheers - Phil
Great write up, sounds like a cracking game!
Quote from: mad lemmey on 23 March 2014, 07:35:47 PM
Great write up, sounds like a cracking game!
It was a good game - it was the smallest you would want to go for GWSH, a regiment a side, but it played well, gave us a good feel for the core rules, and made us want to play again. Which are all great. Oh, and I won - to start with it look like it was going to be a landslide, but at the end the Germans actually tried shooting at the French, rather than marching forwards very quickly, and started to inflict casualties of their own, but too little too late.
Quote from: paulr on 23 March 2014, 06:36:44 PM
And a very well executed trap it was ;)
:D Thanks for your answers to my questions on the main spearhead yahoo group - I had posted on there in error (bloody yahoo) and had subsequently posted on the GWSH group, where I have had some answers - there do seem to be some differences between the versions of the rules.
Nice report
Take care
Andy
:-bd :-bd
Interesting game, Fred. What was the status of the river? i.e. was it deep, shallow, raging torrent, mere trickle? Makes a terrific difference to the scenario. :-\
Looks good...How long did it take?...What was the Germans main objective as the river being uncrossable must have made it difficult
Quote from: Fenton on 24 March 2014, 09:53:28 AM
Looks good...How long did it take?...What was the Germans main objective as the river being uncrossable must have made it difficult
Make that "practically impossible".
Quote from: Fenton on 24 March 2014, 09:53:28 AM
Looks good...How long did it take?...What was the Germans main objective as the river being uncrossable must have made it difficult
There was a bridge!!! The German objective was just to get a single un-suppressed stand over the river. The game took only about 2hrs with lots of rule checking, and general not knowing what we we're doing at the start.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 24 March 2014, 09:46:19 AM
Interesting game, Fred. What was the status of the river? i.e. was it deep, shallow, raging torrent, mere trickle? Makes a terrific difference to the scenario. :-\
Reading the replies backwards. The river was impassable - perhaps a steep sided canal.
For a more general game then allowing the German's some bridging capability would be reasonable. But I think this is meant to represent an advance guard trying to force a quick crossing.
Quote from: fred 12df on 24 March 2014, 02:36:11 PM
There was a bridge!!!
I did presume there was, I just meant must have been hard for the Germans knowing that would they would have enter a a a nasty field of fire to get across it
Quote from: Fenton on 24 March 2014, 03:13:59 PM
I did presume there was, I just meant must have been hard for the Germans knowing that would they would have enter a a a nasty field of fire to get across it
They could have "silly walked" their way through it if they really wanted
Been a bit of a gap in posting - real life has been in the way a bit.
But some painting has been progressing - my WWI Germans for GWSH are progressing well, with 2 regiments of infantry done, along with the artillery, and most of the cavalry.
There is another regiment of infantry to go, and I'm sure a few other bits and pieces (and as can be seen from these photos the labels on the bases need redoing).
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1st Infantry Regiment
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2nd Infantry Regiment
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Stosstruppen
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Flammenwerfer
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Pioneers
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Cavalry squadron - really just decorative at this stage of the war!
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Divisional Artillery
77mm at the front, 105s (in grey), then at the back left 150mm (in spotty cammo) and back right 21cm Morsers
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1st regiment of 77mm guns - in an mid war scheme with blue
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2nd regiment of 77mm guns - in more typical three colour cammo
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Really nice Fred! :)
Great work there Fred 8). I really like the camo on the guns :).
I'm with Will and Steve. :)
Cheers - Phil
Great work Fred =D>
Quote from: fred 12df on 12 April 2014, 09:12:36 PM
Cavalry squadron - really just decorative at this stage of the war!
And yours are extremely decorative ;D
As you mention redoing the labels a few thoughts. I tend to avoid using white backgrounds for labels as it stands out too much. For SH in 6mm I use dark grey for Germans and dark green for Russians, both with white text (yellow for HQs). I also use a coloured square to identify battalions.
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Quote from: fred 12df on 12 April 2014, 09:12:36 PM
Cavalry squadron - really just decorative at this stage of the war!
Not necessarily. The German cavalry was trained in the later war as assault troops - the theory being that if they encountered the enemy on the line of march they would dismount and clear the way. When the High Seas Fleet mutinied in 1918 it was the Guard Cuirassiers who stormed their barracks and restored order.
Thanks chaps. I have enjoyed painting these, just the right mix of simple grey overall with enough detailing to look good, without going bonkers. The guns are good, but the black lining on the 3 colour ones with the small blocks is tedious, even done with a pen.
Not sure what scheme to paint the 21cm morsers in yet?
Labelling: I had tried a bunch of colours to see which worked. I was going for a colour per regiment, but perhaps a colour per side, with a block for each regiment would look a bit more unified.
Cavalry - does this mean I need to get some dismounted figures as well?
Quote from: fred 12df on 13 April 2014, 12:58:44 PM
Labelling: I had tried a bunch of colours to see which worked. I was going for a colour per regiment, but perhaps a colour per side, with a block for each regiment would look a bit more unified.
Cavalry - does this mean I need to get some dismounted figures as well?
Labelling: It's what I've gone for lately - shows up really well.
Cavalry: 'Fraid so. The Guard Cuirassiers had their own artillery too.
Quote from: fred 12df on 13 April 2014, 12:58:44 PM
Labelling: I had tried a bunch of colours to see which worked. I was going for a colour per regiment, but perhaps a colour per side, with a block for each regiment would look a bit more unified.
It does look more unified. I have found it very useful with players new to the period and also for demonstration games. I also include what the stand is armed with, avoids confusion over identifying vehicles or guns, particularly in 6mm ;)
Took some more photos this afternoon - WWI French, but from 1914, so not direct opposition for the pervious Germans
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2 Regiments of Infantry, Regiment of Cavalry, and 3 regiments of 75s and some 155s (the latter are Pendraken), unfortunately the rest aren't.
The next regiment is based coated, and has kepi's done, the 4th is rather shiny still.
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Close up of the Dragoons
Edit: The photos have come out rather strange when uploading, one rather vivid the other rather grey, which isn't how they started. :o
Very nice Fred! :)
Seconded ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
There's something engagingly naive about the French in their 1914 uniforms. I like yours a lot.
Quote from: fred 12df on 13 April 2014, 08:52:28 PM
The next regiment is based coated, and has kepi's done, the 4th is rather shiny still.
What's the old saying about Rome and construction schedules?
The French have been a rather stalled long term project, I think I bought most of the infantry nearly 3 years ago at a show. The cavalry and artillery are new this year, and have spurred on progress of the infantry.
The uniforms look good, but aren't half slow to paint, compared to the other camouflaged ones.
Mongol Yurts
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Clearly to complement my WWI stuff, I decided to paint up my Yurts tonight! This was partially spurred on by my wife thinking they were snow huts at the weekend, due to their white undercoat.
These have painted up very quickly with several different brown washes. Need a bit more finishing off with the blankets on the doors, and a bit of highlighting/shading and they will be done. They look very effective I think, I think I like the small ones the best.
Also managed to get the first of my late war WWI British cleaned up and sprayed black yesterday (you might just make out some tanks in the background)
Very nice, Fred. :)
Cheers - Phil
I know the people of Flanders lost a lot of their housing stock between 1914-18, but yurts?
They're rather sweet, though. 8)
All the unused cloth lying around in Ypres perhaps ?
IanS :D
nice yurts
Quote from: ianrs54 on 15 April 2014, 12:44:50 PM
All the unused cloth lying around in Ypres perhaps ?
Much as it pains me to say it, that's really quite clever!
Well I'm known to be a genius....
IanS
Quote from: ianrs54 on 16 April 2014, 07:16:49 AM
Well I'm known to be a genius....
IanS
Which as we know, is next to madness....
No definitely sane - got a certificate to prove it....
IanS :D
Yers. I crayoned it for him myself!
Pretty colours and everything.
Even signed it.
Put in a picture of a housey too.
Only charged a fiver.
Er - its Typed and Roneod...no crayon or housesy anywhere.
IanS ;)
Maybe it wasn't you. :-\
Do you want one with a housey on it?
Or a horsey? :D
THE PILLS, THE PILLS.
:)
IanS
I a (probably vain) attempt to return to the topic...
Painted up 3 units of WM Empire knights over the weekend - some that had come in a big box of stuff on eBay. I couldn't be bothered with stripping all the old paint, so went with the basic colours used by the previous owner, and just tidied up a few bits, and gave them a heavy black wash to give some depth - came out not bad for a fairly modest input of time.
No photos as they are still on the table at my mate's as we did a huge Easter Monday game - that (as always) was bigger than the time available - might have a picture of the game later once I have sorted though them a bit.
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Our Easter Big Game - 12000pts a side, undead / araby alliance escorting the wagons of golden eggs along the road. While a similar amount of Imperial forces try to wrest control of the eggs! Rules are a bastard hybrid of KoW using brigade activation and multi-side fighting.
This is late in the afternoon, as the Imperial forces struggle to get enough mass on the table to break through to the road - while the first few eggs are very near leaving the table.
Those Rok eggs are very hard to shift I gather! Looking good Fred!
Love the scenario ;D ;D
The scenario - was a good idea, but I don't think I got it quite right. The attackers were coming on a brigade at a time, needing 2 or less on first turn, 3 or less on second, etc. This made their deployment too piecemeal - on my side of the table, we still have 3 brigades to deploy, and I think 2 on the far side. This meant that the defenders were able to deal with the attackers in detail.
I don't think it would need much to rebalance it - either half the attackers on turn 1, the rest on turn 2, or a higher chance of a brigade coming on. As always with these things its only once the stuff is on the table, people want changes, despite having had the the scenario for a week in advance.
Looks like enormous fun !
Cheers - Phil
Love the table, looks cool.
Ah, someone else who's not put off by the hexes. Looking good, Fred.
Looks very impressive. Still owe you a message reply, but a couple of weddings coming up and other stuff going on as well. Will be in touch.
If anyone wants to have a look there are lots more photos here https://picasaweb.google.com/114091746313103705211/Easter2014BigGame?authuser=0&feat=directlink
The hexon isn't mine - I don't mind it, especially now Vos has added the brown panels, that help break the colour up alot. There are two problems with it, the hills are really rather low (even with 10mm figures) and dice are always getting cocked in the edges.
DP - no worries things are pretty busy here too.
Nice game!
I use the hexons for naval stuff, works nice!
Wow, those photos are impressive.
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 23 April 2014, 07:05:57 PM
Wow, those photos are impressive.
We got a few toys on the table didn't we. The Araby and Brettonian armies are particularly nice (not mine!!)
Quote from: fred 12df on 23 April 2014, 05:11:28 PM
The hexon isn't mine - I don't mind it, especially now Vos has added the brown panels, that help break the colour up alot. There are two problems with it, the hills are really rather low (even with 10mm figures) and dice are always getting cocked in the edges.
Quite agree. As for the dice, if you can afford them go for casino dice. Very pricey but precision engineered and roll over anything (including figures if you're not careful!).
A great looking table there Fred, been away for a while so catching up, the Germans look stunning, really nice work.
kev
Thanks Kev. I really enjoyed painting up the Germans, I have the first batch of British sprayed ready to go.
Took advantage of the good weather today, to make a really big hill from a big chunk of polystyrene.
Did the cutting directly over the wheely bin, then painted it (with the help of my eldest daughter) on the 'bistro table'. Said bistro table had been carefully covered with a big painting cloth to avoid any accidents.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ENcCsocFcJo/U10kCLwfVXI/AAAAAAAACoQ/2fIO45ZkiAo/s1152/photo.JPG)
and as it might appear in the next game
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If you ever feel the need to make another...
Excellent Fred! 8)
That is terrific, Fred ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Glad you like it chaps - I feel it is a case of quantity have a quality of its own, as it is a bit rough and ready up close, but presents enough mass to work well. I like these projects that come from nothing to completion in an afternoon.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 27 April 2014, 05:34:44 PM
If you ever feel the need to make another...
Well, that was from the smallest chunk of polystyrene sheet in the shed! We got rid of a small sofa bed last year (ish!) and when I pulled it apart to take to the tip, I discovered it was largely made of polystyrene sheet. So I still have the two arms, which I am thinking of making into an even larger hill.
Continuing the terrain theme - I decided to finish off the last half of my Roman fort. I got this last Christmas, and quite quickly painted half the pieces, then the rest have been rather languishing. Don't know why, as it only took about an hour to finish the painting off last night, and a bit of flock today. Some photos with the painted 5% of my late Roman army.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kLhW07mejuQ/U1699RBaWDI/AAAAAAAACos/1cDCvho-6Ms/s800/IMG_4124.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-by7Fs4IjL3g/U1698koTeGI/AAAAAAAACok/ZRNFjGMpJA4/s800/IMG_4131.jpg)
Does that look like the business, or what ? :-bd
Great stuff Fred !
Cheers - Phil
Ta.
It does look good - mainly down to the quality of the model - which paints up so quickly and easily. Why it has taken me so long to get round to finishing it, is a good question, and one I will be side-stepping.
Very cool Fred! 8)
Looks great!
Continuing my butterfly attention span - I have painted some Mongols today.
Rather crappy phone picture - and basing only really started. Also need to give them all a wash, and probably some highlights.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u38cg8HMSWw/U2a2CxAV78I/AAAAAAAACpM/cBmxerCbQhQ/s1152/photo%25201.JPG)
There is a lot of detail on these figures, they take quite a bit of painting. I sprayed these in a couple of shades of brown, and 1 lot in black. As I thought this would help with the horses, but I ended up changing the colour of most of the horses, so I think next batch will all get black under coat, as it helps more with the defining some of the edges better on the riders.
Nice start Fred!
Late comment, but that's a super camp. evge!, as we Romans say.
Hi Fred, can I ask what size bases you are using for your kings of war figures? I'm thinking about using 60x30 for troops, 40x40 for monsters/war machines and 25x25 for individuals. I agree that the warmaster basing is a little small for kow!
Hi Ric, welcome, and a nice blog.
For KoW we were starting with WM based figures, so made some decisions based on how they would fit together. We decided to stick with movement and ranges as written.
We went with infantry regiment with 80x60mm area. Cavalry with 100x80mm. War Engines at 40x40mm, and individuals at 25mm round.
For more recent stuff stuff as the centaurs I have done unit basing, and like the look the extra space gives.
Your 60x30mm size for a troop would work well - I don't think that the frontage is critical in KoW. It is probably important to keep cavalry on bigger bases than infantry to make them a bit less manoverable. What distances were you thinking of going with.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 May 2014, 12:17:59 AM
Late comment, but that's a super camp. evge!, as we Romans say.
Ta FK.
I am working on a broken down wall section to show battle damage. Mainly blue foam, but I going to attempt some press moulding to get the wall textures (the white painted bits)
I've also remembered that I was going to make some gates.
Thanks for the nice welcome Fred!
I think we are definitely going to go with 60x30 for troops, so 60x60 for regiments and 120x60 for hordes, for cavalry I was going to use the same 60x30 base for a troop (5 cavalry), but now I'm not sure..cavalry bases for a 28mm kow figure is 20x50 right? So maybe a 60x60 would be better for cavalry troops?
Glad to have you aboard.
If you go with 60mm frontage for infantry, then strictly a troop would be 24mm deep, and a regt 50mm deep
And cavalry would be 75mm wide and 30mm deep for a troop. 60mm deep for a regt.
I suspect the extra 1.5cm frontage is irrelevant in practice, so going with 60x30 as a standard will work for KoW and will work for lots of other rules too.
More Mongols
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wz3RMCrX1v8/U2f-zismFeI/AAAAAAAACpk/xzPtrATcah0/s1152/image.jpeg)
Got a bit more done on the basing - but realised that I need to order some more tufts to finish them off, so these will get parked for a bit. I do like the open order style of these bases, though need to work a bit more on getting the figure bases blended in.
Sorted through the rest of the figures, into 16s for making 4 bases at a time (and being not too many to paint at one go), only 8 more groups of light cav, and 4 of heavies. Plus foot bow and civilians. I also seem to have loads of foot command!! Sprayed the next batch black.
Slapped a layer of brown on the WWI British - much quicker when the whole figure is basically the same colour!
Those are superb! 8)
really nice Fred.
I notice you are mixing the models on the bases - heavies and lights. I was going to keep mine separate - lights in skirmish order, medium and heavies in closer order, but not sure now :-\
Thanks chaps.
I've mixed the mediums and lights ( and a commander ). I do plan to do the heavies separately.
What little I have read seems to indicate that there was only a split to heavy and the rest. With a much higher percentage of lights.
I'm puzzled by the Mongol Mk I tanks.
Only after they had over-run China.
IanS
They are the heavies aren't they?
Quote from: fred 12df on 06 May 2014, 03:07:30 PM
They are the heavies aren't they?
No - the catapahacts - bread Ovens.
IanS
Quote from: fred 12df on 06 May 2014, 11:31:11 AM
Thanks chaps.
I've mixed the mediums and lights ( and a commander ). I do plan to do the heavies separately.
What little I have read seems to indicate that there was only a split to heavy and the rest. With a much higher percentage of lights.
Comparatively, original Mongol armour was much lighter than contemporary ring/chain mail being mostly boiled or hardened leather so mixing mediums with the lights is accurate -I've done the same. The thing about Mongols was that although some of them wore armour, it doesn't seem to have slowed them down at all when it comes to maneuvering or indeed any form of movement so the classifications of LC and MC are a bit cloudy. In fact, mixing mediums with heavies is also accurate, it depends on what the formation did rather than what it wore; some may even had a form of horse armour, on the front at least.
The only troops that I know can be classified accurately as EHC are the
kesig or
keshik, which were the guard. Eventually numbering 10,000 they all wore identical uniiforms of black
kalat -the Mongol wrapover coat- with any edging in red. The same was true for their armour, similar to the samurai, any armour lacing and backing material was also red. All rode horses wearing black -all around- armour that had all trappings in...you guessed it, red. Whether each
kesig formation rode identically coloured horses is unknown but it wouldn't surprise me if they did.
As far as organisation is concerned, the Mongols were decimal, so really the smallest, practical wargaming unit would be the equivalent of a
mingghan of 1,000 warriors. Ten of these would make up a
tumen of which two units would be the MC/HC contingent while the rest would be MC/LC who would skirmish but also were trained to get stuck in if necessary. This was arrived at by having 20 warriors out of every 100 strong unit being siphoned off to form the MC/HC formations. Unfortunately, not all
tumen were at full strength but could be anything between 5 -10,000 so a smaller force of 5 MC/LC with 1 MC/HC is fine as well.
Mine are organised in 3 base units with 8 LC/MC and 2 MC/HC usually arrayed in chequerboard formation on the battlefield with the MC/HC at the rear. (I have pics but as they are not Pendraken chaps I won't post them here.)
Thanks Subedai great info - most of my reading has been your articles in MW!!
The keshik sound like a good paint scheme.
What might chail mail be?
Ouwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
Please don't say chain mail! It's like saying chain chain. Mail is chain.
Ohhhhhhhhh, the redundancy.
I'm melting.........melting....................
Rob :'(
Quote from: smokie gunner on 07 May 2014, 01:55:34 AM
Ouwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
Please don't say chain mail! It's like saying chain chain. Mail is chain.
Ohhhhhhhhh, the redundancy.
I'm melting.........melting....................
Rob :'(
I'll get you, and your little dog as well! (hah, hah, hah, hah....)
Getting back to Fred's work.
Great stuff, Fred ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Ta Phil - I find if you keep quite for a while, things slow return back to normality!
Quote from: smokie gunner on 07 May 2014, 01:55:34 AM
Please don't say chain mail! It's like saying chain chain. Mail is chain.
Ohhhhhhhhh, the redundancy.
Chain Mail ... as opposed to Ring Mail, Scale Mail or Plate Mail.
Jeez, did you people NEVER play D&D??? ;D ;D ;D
Never, I'm proud to say.
I was brought up -historically speaking- being eruditely informed that the stuff was called chain mail. Since then I have found out that a more PC title is ring mail...so I used both to avoid any potential confusion.
(If ever a idea didn't work it was that one! :))
Yes, I stand corrected. This should be about Fred's marvelous painting!
Love those Mongols, Fred.
I am envious as I have been unable to put brush to metal in over 2 years!
I just have one more thing to contribute as far as mail is concerned and then I'll clam my gob shut.
I'm really not trying to pick a fight. :d Really! O:-)
I'm not a great believer in Wikipedia as you really have to be careful about the scholarship but this entry is well founded and may help to clarify the issue:
"The modern usage of terms for mail armour is highly contested in popular and, to a lesser degree, academic culture. Medieval sources referred to armour of this type simply as "mail", however "chain-mail" has become a commonly-used, if incorrect neologism first attested in Sir Walter Scott's 1822 novel The Fortunes of Nigel.[10] Since then the word "mail" has been commonly, if incorrectly, applied to other types of armour, such as in "plate-mail" (first attested in 1835).[11] The more correct term is "plate armour"."
1. "chain-mail, n." OED Online. December 2011. Oxford University Press.
2. "plate-mail, n." OED Online. December 2011. Oxford University Press.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_(armour) [/color] [/color]
You say tomayto and I'll say tomahto! :P
I'll shut up now. :-[
Love you guys! :)
Rob :D
Super job, Fred!
The sheer volume of you work is impressive, not to mention your skill with the brush!
I really liked your treatment of the ground cover with your Late WWI Germans. I may have missed it in the text but what material did you use to sculpt the shell holes, etc.?
The Mongols have an eerie quality as if they have sprung fully armed from the soil - probably a perception shared by their historical enemies. The sculpts are really nice and your subtle painting has brought them to life as they seem to be moving on the stands!
I also liked your 28mm Victoriana. Who doesn't love a Victorian red coat? There are so many beautiful figures out there in 28mm. If was so tempting to go that route for the Zulu War but the 10mm Pendraken figures are the best on the market and I'm hooked on them. They also take up so much less space and you can mass hundreds of them.
Your diary is great, keep up the good work!
Cheers,
Rob :)
I'm with Ithoriel, AD&D had chain mail, ring mail and plate mail - and that's what I grew up with, so its what I tend to use from habit. I do occasionally go for just mail.
From Rob's quotes it seems that it is those bloomin' victorian's inventing history again, that is the cause of all this confusion over a simple armour coat!
Rob - thanks for the very kind words - but I'm definitely a block paint and wash kind of painter - I rely on the quality of the sculpts to make what I paint look good. Glad that the diary gives viewing pleasure - and I hope that you can get back to painting soon.
I have had chance to put some paint on the horses of another batch of Mongols today - and I am really impressed with the sculpting - great work Phil!
The bases of the WWI Germans are done using Ronseal Wood Filler - it comes in a purple tub, available in DIY stores - its quite gloopy, so you can make shell holes and the like just be scraping a bit of a hole - I then used Vallejo Water Effects to give the impression that they are deep, even though in reality they are only a few mm deep.
The red coats were fun to paint - but I couldn't face doing a whole army at that scale!
Must admit I tend to go with plate and mail, sometimes unnecessarily adding the word armour incase someone thinks I'm talking about the post or crockery.
If you really want to be pedantic "mail" is interlocking rings, "proof" is rings sewn on to leather backing and a suit of armour is a "harness". However, usage tends to blur accurate meanings over time. :( :( :(
Quote from: Hertsblue on 08 May 2014, 07:25:52 AM
If you really want to be pedantic "mail" is interlocking rings, "proof" is rings sewn on to leather backing and a suit of armour is a "harness". However, usage tends to blur accurate meanings over time. :( :( :(
And one must wonder whether the people who actually wore the stuff would insist on the distinctions. It might be a bit like the Hindu trilogy of creator-preserver-destroyer, or the spheres of influence assigned to the nine muses; neither of which would have been familiar to the people who were active believers in the heyday of those systems.
Anyway, back on topic.
You keep posting your nicely painted chaps and we will keep wondering where you get the time from to paint them all.
I think it's from doing bits of painting frequently, along side the odd afternoon were I manage to get some time while the family is busy with something else.
Quote from: fred 12df on 08 May 2014, 06:13:19 PM
I think it's from doing bits of painting frequently, along side the odd afternoon were I manage to get some time while the family is busy with something else.
I certainly find
frequently is the key. I try and do some painting every day even 15 minutes can allow some progress. I'm lucky enough to have a dedicated painting area so 15 minutes means about 12 minutes of actual application of paint.
Absolutely agree. A bit every day, even if it's just one unit's spon-bottles or the cap-badges on the nadger-cleaners, is the one that gets results.
With the best of good intentions, I have said I will paint for an hour a day. Ha, ha! We all know how that turns out. Very occasionally, I do get the hour or even a bit more, but more often than not I can paint for as long as half an hour before I get distracted...and it's not always my fault.
I wish I still had time to paint the wee men.... :'( :'( :'( :'(
I don't even have to use all the fingers on one hand to count the number I've 'daubed' in the last three years.
But I DO so enjoy seeing all the figures that all you folk paint.....
Keep up the great work ! :)
Cheers - Phil
At the moment I'm managing about 3 hours a night most nights when the kids have gone to bed. As each model takes me about an hour it is hardly expedient output :(
Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 09 May 2014, 02:16:18 PM
At the moment I'm managing about 3 hours a night most nights when the kids have gone to bed. As each model takes me about an hour it is hardly expedient output :(
This explains a lot. Why you have lots or recent wins in the painting comps, and why I can produce lots of stuff. I couldn't imagine spending an hour on a 10mm figure!!!
I have recently started thinking about what I want to paint, rather than what I should paint. I am also trying to focus on getting playable stuff on the table, as having games definitely means more stuff painted. But when I fancy something different I get those figures out, with the Mongols I have been deliberately just cleaning and spraying 20 or so figures at once, so that I can see the progress. I find that having loads of figures sitting there undercoated, stops me from progressing.
Totally agree a little every day. Surprising how it mounts up
Take care
Andy
Having a rummage in a one of my draws of stuff today, and found a cheap doormat I had bought to make fields. Decided that it was time to put it to it to use and made up a some fields this afternoon.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QAPZE3c3nms/U2_bYhLlLcI/AAAAAAAACp4/0SgVZUnc3hk/s800/IMG_4136.jpg)
I have enough left to make the same again in plain fields too.
I've been painting another batch of Mongols this week, and made a start on basing them today
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I'm pleased with how these came out, a couple of changes from the first batch. Going with black undercoat for all, allows a bit of black lining, and shadows in the hard to reach places. I have also gone with a different shade for the bows, after seeing Subatai's on here.
Still haven't decided on basing yet - tried mixing up some flock today, but it seems rather too green. And browsing the net I am struggling to find what I am looking for...
QuoteStill haven't decided on basing yet - tried mixing up some flock today, but it seems rather too green. And browsing the net I am struggling to find what I am looking for...
I had the same problem. In the end went with army painter steppe grass which I think looks the part, not too green. Its on the bases of the Mongols I entered in the comp.
Cheers Matt, that looks the right sort of colour.
And through the magic of eBay some is now on its way!
happy to help :)
Looking good, Fred. :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Very nice Fred.
I've been painting like a demon, but not taken any photos later!
Thanks chaps.
Some Mongolian Death Worms - to give my Mongols an edge when facing Orcs and Elves!!
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-27c6lPRg8hE/U3KAb83AL7I/AAAAAAAACrk/ZIKv_N1NLUM/s1152/photo.JPG)
Not the best photo, they aren't quite so red in real life.
I think they may be getting some Eagles and Gollums (Earth Trolls) as well (thanks to a WM list I found)
Very nice indeed - the white teeth/fangs really stand out well against the mouth.
Like 'em, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
Ta chaps - they have come out nicely for a very quick dry brush based paint scheme.
Does anyone know which of the 2 codes these are, as I took them out of the bag far too long ago, to remember?
Got the bases finished on the first batch of the Mongols
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2tpmVjTDTiM/U3u34CLIiPI/AAAAAAAACs8/e409fnMTT9I/s912/IMG_4316.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GbK77QkiEns/U3u32ZefK4I/AAAAAAAACss/VJyvZjODxPg/s912/IMG_4281.jpg)
I'm rather pleased how these have come out!
Very impressive :-bd :-bd
Terrific, Fred ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Thanks Chaps - glad you like the look of them.
Phil - these paint up very nicely, excellent work.
A couple more shots
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And an overhead view
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LUTcVA9Tq9E/U3u98XGo5jI/AAAAAAAACtQ/vgIGaJ-FJvM/s912/IMG_4297.jpg)
I've deliberately gone for a more sparse basing on these
Your work is always impressive and these are stunning
Those are lovely! (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)
Nice work chap. =D> =D> 8)
Those are excellent Fred, the movement in these sculpts is fantastic too!
Thanks chaps, very kind of you. :) :-[
They're a credit to sculptor and painter alike. :-bd
really good Fred, basing is excellent.
Hear, hear.
And thanks for the compliment, Fred ! :) :-[
Cheers - Phil
Really lovely work Fred, great painting and basing, a top job mate. I'm looking forward to having a go at these next month.
kev
Quote from: fred 12df on 20 May 2014, 08:44:04 PM
Thanks Chaps - glad you like the look of them.
Phil - these paint up very nicely, excellent work.
A couple more shots
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yRtpfXc5Asg/U3u-ECSvWII/AAAAAAAACtY/9RK7vKPPCuQ/s800/IMG_4305.jpg)
And an overhead view
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LUTcVA9Tq9E/U3u98XGo5jI/AAAAAAAACtQ/vgIGaJ-FJvM/s912/IMG_4297.jpg)
I've deliberately gone for a more sparse basing on these
(Only just found this and I am so impressed I just had to re-post the whole post again.)
Glad I could be of help with the wood colours.
They are absolutely stunning. The combo you finally decided on for the bases has worked out a treat and only enhances the figures.
What size bases are they on and are they based that way for any particular rule set?
Love these, great basing and painting - a winning combination! Like the bows and spears, I think going for a light colour is much better than the usual dull brown. I go for an even lighter buff colour, but your tan colour really works. As a (much) younger generation might say "Respect!" :D :D :D
Mollinary
The tan colour for the bows and spears works well - I nicked it from Subedai's figures! For the smaller scale figures I quite like the paler browns for bows and spears. I also think that most weapons would be fairly new, so not in the dark stained wood we now see in museums and castles. I still go with dark brown for fire arms though.
The bases are 40x40mm - I have gone off the 40x20mm warmaster standard recently, as I like the bigger bases to give a bit more of a diorama feel. Rules wise, not certain, but these should work for a few options, including Hail Caesar, perhaps KoW (but light cavalry aren't great in it) or in a set of home brew rules we are cooking up at the moment.
I've taken a bit more time over these bases - using a mix of rocky areas, tufts, flock and some small bushes. Again the space allows this, rather than crowding everything in.
I also took some more pictures last night
The Mongolian Death Worms, all based up:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u6x50Ni51ts/U3u33K3-8RI/AAAAAAAACs0/XKJ___5FLh4/s912/IMG_4318.jpg)
Looks like I need to sort the base edges on these - see what comes of using some older bases, not the nice new laser cut ones from Mr Leon.
And some WIP shots of the heavy cavalry, based up much more densely. I thought these would be quite quick with all their armour, but they actually seemed to take longer than the light cav (or its just I had to paint more to get fewer bases!)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yN1ZXs8_Xa8/U3u4DNs4yUI/AAAAAAAACtE/41n4A3KVhZs/s800/IMG_4331.jpg)
Great job!
Those are some if your best yet Fred! :D
Excellent again, Fred ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Very interesting point about british webbing in WWI. I was considering going with buff but I may look at the dead flesh. I'm assuming it's in GW. Was in the Southport branch about a month ago and the sales person asked the obligatory question, 'And what are you painting at the moment fella?' I received a very blank look when I replied sword and buckler men from the Great Italian Wars.
Really good stuff Fred. I'm in total agreement on the larger "diorama" style basing - really lets you give them a nice feel. I'm half tempted to rebase my Warmaster but think that can go to the bottom of the to do pile!
I like the lighter wood colours as well - pops really nicely.
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 22 May 2014, 08:26:57 AM
Very interesting point about british webbing in WWI. I was considering going with buff but I may look at the dead flesh. I'm assuming it's in GW. Was in the Southport branch about a month ago and the sales person asked the obligatory question, 'And what are you painting at the moment fella?' I received a very blank look when I replied sword and buckler men from the Great Italian Wars.
I actually use the version from Vallejo Game Colours. I don't think I have been inside the southport GW, but I do occasionally drive last and see if it's still there.
Considering how close Italian wars stuff is to GW empire it's a bit of a shame that there was no connection made. But perhaps we have to remember that there is The Hobby, and just a hobby that the rest of us partake in.
Thanks to the rest of you, really glad everyone likes these figures, they have have come out a treat.
Toxic pixie - avoid rebasing, it's a bit of nightmare. Though I did rebase a bunch of WWII stuff recently, and it turned out OK.
Yeah, I don't like rebasing much at all... guess the Warmaster can stay. Sabots would let them fit a different scheme and be a damn sight less work :D
Those heavies are great, love em!
As far as I am concerned re-basing is a complete no-no. Luckily, I tend to collect both sides so only if a set of rules says base sizes immaterial or everything is on 60 X 40mm will I give them a second glance, otherwise forget it.
Sometimes it's a case of "needs must when the Devil drives". Having re-activated my 15mm SYW recently I'm now getting complaints from co-gamers that the little singleton bases, held over from my original set of rules that specified casualty removal, are too fiddly. The thought of having to amalgamate figures on to new bases is not a pleasant one.
Sabots? Even just ba sheet of thin but rigid plasticard (or metal paper?) underneath the unit would work maybe? Or go the whole hog and make nice looking ones they slot into with extra terrain effects...
I do rebase from time to time. The biggest effort though was when I changed from Johnny Reb to F&F, as Johnny Reb has the daft system of four bases per regiment but different sized bases with different numbers of figures depending on the size of the regiment. Fortunately by that time I had played Johnny Reb II and III for about 15 years and had got fed up with them as the charge mechanism was remarkably fiddly. Regimental F&F are much smoother.
I use sabot bases a lot - all my bases of figures are magnetised, so a simple piece of MDF or plastic of the right size, with a sheet of metal paper stuck on the top works great.
One advantage of the 40x20mm warmaster basing is that you can slot various combinations of the figures together to make units for different rules fairly easily.
I have made some 40x40mm sabot bases, which have 8-10mm strips down the sides, that allow a 40x20mm base to sit in the middle - this works well for artillery bases.
As a matter of interest, how do you guys go about removing troops that have been based on mdf using superglue? (I've learned my lesson though and only use wood glue now for ease of removal!)
I've got a bunch of confederates requiring a rebase after Longstreet went stale for me!
Stanley knife and the occasional cut thumb. I also have moved to wood glue.
I tend to soak the bases in water, up to around the knees of the figures. This works great for PVA, and with a bit longer tends to work for super-glue too. Often a bit of leverage helps. While I mainly use PVA for basing, I often find the odd figure has been superglued, usually one that came loose and had to be re-attached.
Super glue on plastic or metal, then a spell in the freezer can help.
funnily enough ive just done this after reading it on another forum, Let's hope it works!
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that photo is really weird :o
Its almost surreal with the way the water reflects the light, around the figures.
I read it as "hope it works on orcs" and was very confused as what the figures are! Beer time. Definitely beer time.
My SYW figures are based on artists' mounting board (thick card in other words) but then built-up to the feet with Tetrion/Polyfilla. Easiest way to get them free is to slice the mounting board off with a sharp knife and then "nibble" the filler off with snips. That's not the biggest problem, however. Some of these figures are so old that I can no longer match the flock with which their bases liberally plastered. Which would entail totally re-flocking all the bases. Since only two or three figures in each battalion require amalgamating (but I have some 140 battalions) you begin to see the problem? Sabots would be an answer, but I'm reluctant to increase the depth of the units by using them. I think possibly the metal paper may be the answer, especially as I'm going over to magnetic bases, but 140 of the little so and so's is a daunting prospect.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 23 May 2014, 07:45:04 AM
Sometimes it's a case of "needs must when the Devil drives". Having re-activated my 15mm SYW recently I'm now getting complaints from co-gamers that the little singleton bases, held over from my original set of rules that specified casualty removal, are too fiddly. The thought of having to amalgamate figures on to new bases is not a pleasant one.
I'd complain too. SYW should involve thinking in brigades, not individuals. Who wants to be a sergeant when you can be old Fritz?
Possibly, but whilst they think in brigades they die as individuals.
That's for elegy. Kriegspiel is epic.
Not to hijack the thread Fred, but I soaked those troops for about 24 hours and went though what was easily the messiest job I've had to do in a while, I keep finding static grass everywhere, buy it has worked overall!(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/25/a8ypy2as.jpg) its the last time I'll use superglue on mdf again for sure!
That's a mess and a half!
I think it's safe to say the super glue won. You must use a better quality of super glue than me, I've generally been able to loosen them off most of the time, only in a few instances have I had the result you've had with a blob of MDF being left as the rest of the base pulls away in a wet mess.
yeah I use this industrial superglue I get for free at my work, great if you want to glue things super fast, not so great if you want to un-glue stuff.... =)
Took advantage of some light evening light to take some photos.
First up the Yurts (painted a while ago) along with a stand of Mongols
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1Ckk8ViP0RM/U4OFBK-dzMI/AAAAAAAACt8/oiAdEVGwEWo/s800/IMG_4356.jpg)
are they coming to attack or are they coming home?
I like those lots, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
Nice work Fred...Will you be putting them on bases?
Actually I think they would work pretty well for Orcs and Goblins as well
Those are cool, and as Fenton suggested they would be ideal for a Goblin village! Are they pendraken?
Ta chaps.
I wasn't thinking of basing them - but haven't really decide quite what I am doing with the civilians/villagers.
Yes I think they would work pretty well for Orcs or Goblins - with the odd totem or skull added.
Ric - yes they are Pendraken, they were part of the Mongol not-Kickstarter at the end of last year. I assume they are now on the website for general sale.
Total Battle Miniatures Village
Been busy with various terrain this weekend. Made significant progress with this TBM village (which my wife got me as a valentine's gift - how cool is that!)
Painted the base piece and flocked it. Also did a fair amount to the 3 buildings, which still need a bit of finishing off.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h7t6OIxxNdc/U4OQFkZ27lI/AAAAAAAACuY/fs0EF-vi0Yw/s800/IMG_4376.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CPUcbPPyjmE/U4OQGlA-zLI/AAAAAAAACug/iTx4JXlYMm0/s800/IMG_4381.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-flwmuIoc-bc/U4OQGxx3ZQI/AAAAAAAACuo/7ww6eE-EFdY/s800/IMG_4389.jpg)
Both very very impressive :-bd :-bd
I'd say the Mongols are coming home, based on the blue tie in ;) The colours around the doors really bring the yurts to life
Some rivers
Finally (after 6 years or so!) got round to making some river sections using some textured clear plastic report covers
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About 8' of straight sections. I have painted up 4 more sheets today to make some ponds and some curved sections.
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Finished off a bridge (only had this a couple of years) - looks like I need a wider river section though.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MRsk14KWeYY/U4OQQEeMiUI/AAAAAAAACuw/dby8ujS0fks/s800/IMG_4348.jpg)
And those Mongols again
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And there they go back again... ;D
If I scroll up and down quickly its just like watching a movie
Great stuff again, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: fred 12df on 26 May 2014, 07:07:16 PM
Ric - yes they are Pendraken, they were part of the Mongol not-Kickstarter at the end of last year. I assume they are now on the website for general sale.
They're certainly in the printed catalogue MON 18, 19 & 20.
Do like the little village - especially the cultivated rows. Is the bridge Hovels?
The cultivated rows are my latest fad - the rubber base had the indication of small banks of earth where plants had been planted, so with a line of PVA along the top, then sprinkle on some different flock, and it looks good for very little effort.
I don't know where the bridge is from, I picked it up at a show but can't remember from which manufacture, I think it is a 15mm one, but as the roadway is 40mm wide it is great for WM based figures.
I like the Mongol gers and the village. The thatch has turned out well and it's a nice compact visual piece.
Thanks Subedai - the base that comes with the village really helps pull it together, and it looks nothing special when it comes as unpainted latex
Got a few bases of heavy cavalry finished off - with some not so great photos taken with flash
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ROWjAs2KA0w/U4ZKjefm6pI/AAAAAAAACvg/_jucSwsFHGY/s800/IMG_4396.jpg)
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They look like a mob you'd surrender to rather than risk being carved up. :o
Those Mongols look like they mean business. Very nice.
Great work, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
They do have a menacing look don't they!
I'm not sure surrendering, would help you much, as the Mongols seem to have had many ways to kill captives that didn't involve spilling blood.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 27 May 2014, 09:07:51 AM
Is the bridge Hovels?
I've just checked their website, and I think it is, from their 15mm accessories range.
Worked on the Whippets this evening - gone for an attempt at shading, by painting in the panels with two further shades, each covering a slightly smaller area. Interested in some feedback on how will this has worked (or not!)
Just some quick photos with flash.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fRSoJGa0NOI/U5TPvGKUYCI/AAAAAAAAC4g/X1gS8clLXVk/s800/IMG_4620.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BkYgRSNoJsg/U5TPwG5hBlI/AAAAAAAAC4o/6msc5T61zN0/s800/IMG_4617.jpg)
Still need a bit of finishing off around the markings, and some mud and rust
They look excellent!
Love those Whippets! Very nicely done.
Very nice Fred!
Have you seen this btw:
http://www.michtoy.com/00_pdfs_blog/WW1armydeals-US.pdf (http://www.michtoy.com/00_pdfs_blog/WW1armydeals-US.pdf) try not to laugh too hard...
Thanks chaps - I'm pleased with how they have come out.
ML - yes I have! see my reply on your thread :o
Shading has worked well, dispite the flash ;)
The shading works well. Are you going to over-wash the models in brown?
Quote from: Hertsblue on 09 June 2014, 08:26:22 AM
Are you going to over-wash the models in brown?
I haven't decided. I have added some rust to tracks and exhausts this morning, and some mud from a Tamiya weathering stick.
I would normally slap a brown wash over at this stage, but not certain. I suppose I will do one and see how it looks, it ought to pull everything together, but it may just mask the differences....
Like you say, Fred....Do one with a wash, and see how it comes out.
They look good as they are anyway. :)
Cheers - Phil
They look pretty good Fred, I wouldn't put a wash over maybe just do a bit of dark brown lining for definition and maybe scruff up the unit markings.
Shading looks good, I find if you water the paint slightly the highlights blend better.
Matt
Matt - thanks for the tips, unfortunately I had already pressed ahead with a quick brown wash.
I will try the wet blending - but I found it hard enough to spot the edges of each colour, painting with hard edges.
Anyway took some more photos of the finished tanks - not the best pictures, the sun decided to go in when I went to take the photos :'(
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PfTF_DdJokk/U5YM3f-tR-I/AAAAAAAAC44/UOu2bx0dtGk/s800/IMG_4641.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-srkCy8YeA5I/U5YM4hsg9oI/AAAAAAAAC5I/hw2BOW3-Teg/s800/IMG_4646.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wXmgFWvex0U/U5YM38iemXI/AAAAAAAAC5E/_1Avrro_UQw/s800/IMG_4644.jpg)
These show up a few issues with the orange wash used for rust, and a bit of chipping!!
:-bd :-bd
worked well Fred they look good :-bd
Thanks chaps.
I was a bit disappointed at first at how the photos came out. But these ones look most like the models do.
Great stuff Fred
8)
Cheers - Phil.
Good job, Fred. :)
Thanks chaps!! :)
Quick bit of basic blocking in on a couple of their bigger brothers (well brother and sister I suppose!)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-sx1bu4YWI8k/U5d97We3ySI/AAAAAAAAC5g/mXsGgBobTgQ/s1152/photo.JPG)
All a bit basic so far, but gives a good base to add some details too.
Looking good again, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
There's been a lack of updates to here, but not a lack of painting (and buying!)
Went to Phalanx on the 14th - saw the big Pendraken banners with my WWII British tanks on - there are 3 of them all around the Pendraken stand, its very cool to see your own models being used in 6' display banners!! I suggested to Leon that he needed to show one of the painted tanks next to the banners to show 'actual size'!
Picked up a big bag of Pendraken pre-orders mainly WWI and fantasy stuff. I also bought two of the Impudent Mortal MDF buildings (more of these later).
While at Phalanx I also bought the Jugula Rules (and cards), some nice 28mm bits from Warbases (a gate and a couple of small carts). Some 28mm walls at 50p each as they were seconds, a couple of packs of MM fantasy figures. It was a fairly quick whizz round the show as I had my eldest daughter in tow, who had only come back from a school trip at 1am that morning, and had been to an athletics event that morning, so was a bit tired by the time we got to St Helens I-)
Lots of assembling of WWI guns, limbers and the odd vehicle has been occurring
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lovAh20DNyk/U67TF-bioWI/AAAAAAAAC6E/UCt5y5UwAhg/s1152/photo.JPG)
This lot is mainly british guns 18pdrs in the middle on the bases, 4.5" howitzers, 6" guns, and 60pdrs - should give Jerry a headache.
A few german 105s at the front amongst a collection of limbers. A holt artillery tractor on the right - this is very cool, with great big tracks at the back, and a tiny steering wheel at the front - it has a roof, but I'll not fit that until its painted.
The big white lump at the back is a german A7V, which is a resin body with metal MGs and main gun. Some nearly complete British Mk Vs are behind it.
Also in progress are some camels and arabic civilians (not for WWI!)
Artillery looks very impressive. Painting up should help you fill your days.
Good to see you back Fred, lovely work mate! 8)
Looking forward to seeing those done, Fred :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Interesting to see you have a couple of balancing 18pdr as well ;) One of the 3 I assembled doesn't sit on its trail either. I wondered if I had assembled it wrong :-\
The 18pdrs aren't very balanced, with the heavy shield and light trail. They totter around like see- saws until they are glued down.
Bit of finishing off while watching the football - only phone photos, might get better ones tomorrow.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C2T-3S92EEk/U7MuXyirBCI/AAAAAAAAC64/fV_pY-3ksZc/s1024/photo%25204.JPG)
Mark V tanks, with mud and rust
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Camels and Arab Civilians - might add a bit more detailing to these
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Good stuff.
IanS
T'riffic !
Cheers - Phil
Love those Mark V's :)
Nice tanks, Fred. They should scare the bejasus out of the camels. :D
Those camels look great. I am thinking of going down the Sudan route ...... we'll see.
Thanks chaps.
HB - now I will need to do some Mid East tanks to chase the camels!
I think camels go a bit faster than 4mph.
But not as fast as six-pounder shells. ;)
But those is Female tanks, so Lewis/Vickers guns.....
IanS
Mustn't half be some unhappy camels.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 02 July 2014, 03:31:07 PM
But those is Female tanks, so Lewis/Vickers guns.....
One female, followed by two males, as is often the way...
Better photos of the camels - which seem to expose some scruffy painting :'( ;)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JBBDlSeWmG4/U7RyowYYGFI/AAAAAAAAC74/SaOMqJmE3OM/s800/IMG_4655.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NsZKIqqmGKU/U7RyoE37gZI/AAAAAAAAC7w/JRkRhsi1DhU/s800/IMG_4657.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f6_PGlMseyc/U7RynubvxAI/AAAAAAAAC7s/yGb5-6j1PI0/s800/IMG_4664.jpg)
And the Mark V tanks - keeping them separated from the camels this time!
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NZQzCnr5r7Q/U7RyllzTbiI/AAAAAAAAC7Q/Tel6mG-IFlI/s800/IMG_4671.jpg)
Heading off to crush the Hun
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Line abreast
If that constitutes "scruffy painting" I might as well give up now!
Brilliant, as ever.
I was attempting to paint them well - rather than just get some stands on the table - so am probably being rather more picky than usual. It is also the problem that I can now see the painting results better on the photos, then from directly looking at the figures.
I think it is the grey on the red on the left hand camel in the top picture, and the head straps, that are the scruffy bits. I do like how the various blanket rolls and bags have come out.
Quote from: fred 12df on 02 July 2014, 09:19:43 PM
... It is also the problem that I can now see the painting results better on the photos, then from directly looking at the figures. ...
One could say it
magnifies the problem ;) ;D
Lovely work as always :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Still look great to me, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
Yeah. Love the camels. They'd make a great caravan or baggage train.
Really good stuff Fred 8)
Quote
I think it is the grey on the red on the left hand camel in the top picture, and the head straps, that are the scruffy bits
I see your point but 5 seconds for a remedy.
Photos tend to pick the bits you just seem to miss with the naked eye.
Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 03 July 2014, 09:31:32 AM
Photos tend to pick the bits you just seem to miss with the naked eye.
Don't they just !
Cheers - Phil
All my painting is scruffy, saved by distance, washes and basing.
Bit tardy on the updates lately.
I've been playing Songs of Blades and Heroes with my daughters - with various old 28mm Citadel figures. We've had several games, they really seem to enjoy it, and they are getting the idea of tactics now. In the last game my Orcs were beaten up by a horde of halflings, controlled using the Leader special rule by my oldest daughter (11).
The old 28mm have had a bit of basing (not re-basing, as back then they weren't based) and a bit of touching up of chipped paint, and just plain un-painted bits. But I have tried to avoid total re-painting, partly for time, and partly for nostalgia.
I've done a bit of 10mm over the last few days, and finished off the rest of my Centaurs.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-aey57FozkWE/U87YtzZOb9I/AAAAAAAAC9A/V3hgJuOg9FM/s1024/photo.JPG)
I also chopped up the ones I had previously based on big 100x40mm bases for KoW - into 40x40 bases for our new home-brew rules. I used a dremel for this, and it worked very well - much better than trying to remove the figures, then stick them to new bases.
Nice work Fred! 8)
:-bd =D> :-bd as always
Good to hear you got your daughters involved.
Best I've managed with my daughter was when she had to do "an art work" based on a book she was reading. She was reading about the Kiwis during the loss of Crete, part of the curriculum. One scene had some kiwis near a damaged house covering a path with a Bren. She produced a very nice diorama in 15mm including a scratch built corner of the damaged house. Only had advise from Dad and stunned her teacher :D
They look great, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: paulr on 23 July 2014, 05:05:01 AM
:-bd =D> :-bd as always
Good to hear you got your daughters involved.
Best I've managed with my daughter was when she had to do "an art work" based on a book she was reading. She was reading about the Kiwis during the loss of Crete, part of the curriculum. One scene had some kiwis near a damaged house covering a path with a Bren. She produced a very nice diorama in 15mm including a scratch built corner of the damaged house. Only had advise from Dad and stunned her teacher :D
That sounds a great bit of scratch building, and something more than the normal painting for school art work.
My youngest was quite interested in painting last year, but hasn't been so bothered this year, which is a shame as she was starting to be quite neat in what she did. Even if the colour choices were rather interesting to my eye :o
Gladiators
Something a bit different this weekend - some 28mm Gladiators - I picked up the Jugula rules at Phalanx, but had to mail order the figures afterwards, they arrived this week. I got the first 12 cleaned up, based, sprayed and a selection of base colours applied.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9bhFakXIqCk/U9VxShqHJWI/AAAAAAAAC9g/KbTggd859aA/s1024/photo.JPG)
Continuing this unholy 28mm theme, we played IHMN on Friday night, and my usually rather reliable French Foreign Legion did very poorly against the Boche and their heavy walker.
Looking really good, Fred !
Look forward to seeing them completed.
Cheers - Phil
Nice work Fred.
Those are funky 8)
Menacing little crowd, aren't they? But has that guy in the second row got a bow? How is that hand-to-hand combat? :o
They don't let him have any arrows ;)
When i asked for something for the weekend I wasn't expecting that.
Good to see you around again Nik.
They are menacing aren't they - I'm not quite sure why that most gladiator equipment consisted of a big helmet, armour on one arm, greaves, and occasionally a shield. It seems a strange combination to have chosen.
The bow armed chap has some arrows on his back. In the rules bows seem ok, not too deadly at range, but the archer is very vulnerable if he is engaged in melee. And the arena isn't too big to allow him to sit back in safety. Ultimately Jugula is a game about managing a gladiator school rather than just fights.
Quote from: fred 12df on 28 July 2014, 06:16:27 PM
They are menacing aren't they - I'm not quite sure why that most gladiator equipment consisted of a big helmet, armour on one arm, greaves, and occasionally a shield. It seems a strange combination to have chosen.
Same reason female fighters in Sword & Sorcery settings wear chainmail bikinis, it's about spectacle not protection.
Quote from: fred 12df on 28 July 2014, 06:16:27 PM
They are menacing aren't they - I'm not quite sure why that most gladiator equipment consisted of a big helmet, armour on one arm, greaves, and occasionally a shield. It seems a strange combination to have chosen.
Wasn't it so that they were unlikely to be made hors de combat by a wound to the arm or leg - dull, uninteresting wounds to the audience? Something like that.
Some more 28mm (yes I know)...
But did play a game using 10mm last night, lots of Pendraken Fantasy figs - but too busy playing to take pictures.
These figures are some that I got in a trade about a year ago - they came painted, but had become quite chipped in transit. But I decided to get them tidied up and based - so that they can be another band for Song of Blades and Heroes.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bmDJataE92Y/U90VfQpZXNI/AAAAAAAAC_c/7YUa8xw2tao/s1024/photo.JPG)
The original owner had painted them very nicely, but for some reason hadn't quite finished them off - I can only claim about 10% of the painting as my own :P
So for very little effort another dozen playable figures.
:-bd
8)
I meant to ask, Fred.
Are they metal or plastics ?
Cheers - Phil
Really like the faces and shading on the above figures.
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 03 August 2014, 09:05:10 AM
Really like the faces and shading on the above figures.
It's good isn't it. Very little of it is my brush work though! I can claim the odd bit of shading, but the best work was by the original owner. Obviously shown of by my great photo ;) ( quick snap with my phone ! )
Phil - both the Arabs and Gladiators are metal. But I do like plastic too for 28s.
Thanks, Fred.
Cheers - Phil
Not much painting this week - as away for much of it. But I did take a box of Perry 28mm Plastic DAK with me, and built about half of them. I quite like the figures, but there could do to be a couple more sets of rifle arms on the sprues. I think that their WoTR figures come with so many options the WWII sets seem a little limited in comparison.
Few bits of highlighting on the gladiators - as usual I have done 80% of the work, then rather stalled, rather than getting them finished.
Actually did some 10mm stuff too!!!!!
Yesterday (back when it was summer) I sprayed a lot of Pendraken Fantasy figures, mainly reinforcements for my Nature army.
And tonight did a bit of base coating on some WWI, an A7V German Tank, and a Holt Artillery tractor with 60pdr gun and limber - if I do a good job on these they will go into the WWI painting club over on LAF.
Everything (but the undercoated stuff) in one photo
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H7hm8z_pZ2g/U-foR_0U0BI/AAAAAAAAC_s/EJMKGZcGvWQ/s1024/photo.JPG)
With the limber at a crazy angle :o
Just managed to reduce the number of figures in my painting area, and despite the temptation. have started to paint up the SYW stuff that's been on the table for the past four months.
Coo......Wottalotta soldiers (and other stuff) on the go, Fred ! :)
Cheers - Phil
Blimey, Fred, I thought my painting area was a mess...
Nice Fred! 8)
Quote from: Hertsblue on 11 August 2014, 07:35:31 AM
Blimey, Fred, I thought my painting area was a mess...
That photo was just the main bit - this is the full disaster zone
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mNBAYL_gDMI/U-kLTErHhZI/AAAAAAAADAg/5cHwHlPAhow/s1152/photo.JPG)
The thing is I tidied up the other week as there was stuff everywhere - and now there is stuff everywhere again. I've just counted up and there are at least 10 distinct projects on there.
I haven't found a good method of storing in progress stuff. I have pretty good storage for
not started and for
finished but in progress is more of a problem - as if I put it away somewhere it turns rapidly into
forgotten.
Looks on a par with my desk....And mine doesn't have any paints on it. (They're in two...no three different drawers !) ;D ;D
Your desk's far more colourful, Fred.....Mine's just bare metal and green.
Cheers - Phil
That picture epitomises the butterfly effect :o
(FSN will not be impressed with the pose of figs on the left ;))
Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 11 August 2014, 07:15:30 PM
That picture epitomises the butterfly effect :o
(FSN will not be impressed with the pose of figs on the left ;))
Or some of the DAK on the right ;)
The Hoplites only come with overhand spears - clearly they were manufactured long before the current farrago.
What's up with the DAK (from an FSN perspective) - I realise that this is perhaps a foolish, or even dangerous question...
Cor, great minds desk alike! Different figures, same clutter here :D
Quote from: fred 12df on 11 August 2014, 07:46:37 PM
The Hoplites only come with overhand spears - clearly they were manufactured long before the current farrago.
What's up with the DAK (from an FSN perspective) - I realise that this is perhaps a foolish, or even dangerous question...
I seem to recall an aversion to prone figures rather colourfully expressed
To confirm the butterfly effect:
This is the carefully organised tray of stuff that came off the painting desk a couple of weeks ago
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And this is the stuff that I sprayed at the weekend
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which is pretty much all for a single project!! But not that same as any of the others of course.
Prone figures - these are great for WWII games, its the standing ones that are really a bit odd!!
It seems we ARE all the same deep down. ;D ;D ;D
Shamed myself in to some clearing of the decks :-[
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jpECE5fgd_k/U-k6pnrSCpI/AAAAAAAADBY/wTUIjlKB6c4/s1152/photo.JPG)
Only 3 projects in front of me!!
- Halflings
- Gladiators
- WWI Big Stuff
(and some WM Chariots)The Halflings are proper old school - that have been dug out of storage to play Songs of Blades and Heroes with my daughters - the eldest has used these guys a couple of times, and has really go the hang of using them to mob the enemy. These include 3 of my first metal figures, which must be 30+ years old. I have just been tidying up chipped and missing paint, and doing some basing. So I have moved these guys on tonight - painted a couple of shirts light blue, a few bags reddish brown, the bases green, and given them a wash of brown. A bit of flock on the bases, and some dullcote, and they will be finished.
Gladiators - just a bit of highlighting of flesh. Need to focus on one figure and finish it - as these are now at the detail stages.
WWI Big Stuff - no progress tonight, but know where I am going with these (I think!!)
OMG I really must do something tomorrow.
OMG??? How old are you, 14? :P
Quote from: fred 12df on 11 August 2014, 10:21:47 PM
OMG??? How old are you, 14? :P
OMG? WTF is wrong with OMG? I mean like YOLO, right? And you're dissing this dude for this? LMAOPIMP :P ;D
The interpersonal communication skills on this forum are like, you know, totally, totally, you know?
Oh totally rad, man.
IDQLOLBIDRAC!
Anyway, even if I didn't ROFL, I'll BRB KTHNXBAI!
What the !$£@^%**&
I didn't quite laugh out loud but it did raise a chuckle, so even with out rolling on the floor laughing I'm nipping off for a while ok? Thanks, and bye!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6F-PLv-B9T4/U-pEVaHQIZI/AAAAAAAADBw/ncr6ndNAsGs/s1152/photo.JPG)
Some, like, hobbits, like, based, like, hope you, like them, like. :'(
It's like gnome from gnome.
ARGGGGGGGH
Out - out -out
ianS
Ogi, Ogi, Ogi
Or is that Oi, Oi, Oi, not Out, Out, Out or not
I'll get my coat.
I'll open the door for you. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Gladiators
A productive evening - not only got the hobbits based earlier. Got quite a bit done on the gladiators - enough so that I think the painting is done!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NMUD-_rKk6k/U-qPFA35bmI/AAAAAAAADCI/_hb69c-CvdA/s1280/photo.JPG)
Just given them a brown wash overall - so they are a bit shiny.
Not sure about trying to paint on some wood grain style effects on the spears - when I see this I can't decide if it just looks over scale or its effective at representing wood.
Next up should be the WWI big stuff.
Those'll look dead zippy, when they're based ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Looking good Fred, your churning out some stuff, nice to see another messed up desk, i dont feel so ashamed now ;D. Looking forward to seeing those DAK painted.
kev
Very cool Fred.
Keep them shiny, some slave would have been employed polishing that lot between fights! "Oh no, more intestines, I've only just scraped off the last lot!"
Keep them shiny as they would be very sweaty in that arena.
Keep 'em shiny, if the TV is anything to go with they'd look like they'd just been drenched in oil :D
Mind you, if the TV is right with that many people in one place it'd be more like an 18 rated Benny Hill than a fight to the death...
OOOh missus!
Shiny is in then.
I'll just do a bit of brush on matt varnish on cloth and wooden areas.
And some sand on the bases. Then all will be done
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Gladiators sorted! Brush on matt varnish added to clothes and wooden areas, rest left shiny. Basic layer of sand on bases.
Good progress this week in finishing off small projects.
Liking the plain sand. Makes sense.
Great work Fred!
Spiffy!
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
8)
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps :-bd
Quote from: fred 12df on 13 August 2014, 09:04:36 PM
.....and wooden areas.....
.
i.e. from the neck upwards.
Speaking of wooden areas...
Rebased some Forest Shamblers at the weekend
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6NM_nwpwn2M/U_JpMgNTOAI/AAAAAAAADDU/0AhNuWj4-ws/s912/photo%25204.JPG)
Mainly Pendraken, with some Splintered Light tree trolls (who are nominally 15mm)
Also some WM Elven Horse Archers - who are galloping so fast the picture was all blurry ;)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0iP9M3LWKSA/U_JpMEW_4mI/AAAAAAAADDU/5kbeIX5ibq4/s912/photo%25203.JPG)
Also made some progress with a paint brush on WWI heavy kit tonight
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UZzLVZTzdu4/U_JpLCPrsTI/AAAAAAAADDU/FEJd2sL3yx8/s912/photo%25201.JPG)
A7V, with camo added - used a couple of shades on the browns - though it doesn't really show in this photo
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ALJiLVcFz-A/U_JpL1Ska5I/AAAAAAAADDU/mzj7nostoqM/s912/photo%25202.JPG)
Holt tractor and 60pdr - not quite sure what to do with this next - it looks a bit flat.
Quote from: fred 12df on 18 August 2014, 09:10:31 PM
Holt tractor and 60pdr - not quite sure what to do with this next - it looks a bit flat.
Some mud should fix that!
Good work Fred!
Lovely stuff! Really like those forest spirits :)
Terrific work, Fred.
Particularly like the camo' on the tank.
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: fred 12df on 18 August 2014, 09:10:31 PM
Holt tractor and 60pdr - not quite sure what to do with this next - it looks a bit flat.
Wheel-rims on the limber and gun could do with reducing to bare metal, Fred.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 19 August 2014, 08:32:57 AM
Wheel-rims on the limber and gun could do with reducing to bare metal, Fred.
Yeah ..Even it was just a highlight of steel on the edging of the wheels and tracks to make it looked used , though maybe a muddier look would be more apt
Thanks chaps.
I think I will go for steel on the wheel rims first, then a light amount of mud. I'll probably put another highlight on the green metal work, and add a fair bit of shading to the canvas canopy, as thats mostly what you see!
WWI Heavies
Did some detailed highlighting on the Holt tractor and gun. And painted up the crew. I think this is nearly there - get it based and dirtied up a bit tomorrow
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8wsHdZmil5k/U_PGXbkQTWI/AAAAAAAADEM/sjulvsh99gE/s1152/photo%25202.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rX8VrzgH1p8/U_PGXqIO5QI/AAAAAAAADEM/PoZxHRiZyd8/s1152/photo%25203.JPG)
Also added some markings and a brown wash to the A7V
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nb0j6QwcUbE/U_PGYsE8ZuI/AAAAAAAADEM/2et1dddx99g/s1152/photo%25205.JPG)
(I'll not show you the other side :o )
Looks great Fred,
Those highlights on the tractor/gun wheels look the biz - nicely judged :)
Quote from: toxicpixie on 19 August 2014, 10:36:25 PM
Those highlights on the tractor/gun wheels look the biz - nicely judged :)
Seconded, the crew also help lift it :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Belting work, Fred ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Yes, that's done it, Fred. And the crew stand out much better.
Took some proper photos yesterday evening in some half-decent light
A7V
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rICil2XeupA/U_hodz54geI/AAAAAAAADEk/r1xgD7E6fYI/s800/A7V.jpg)
Very nice!
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
8)
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks chaps.
I think I need to add a couple of captured British tanks to the German forces - mainly so I can paint some funky camo on them!
WWI - Holt Tractor and 60pdr gun
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Finished this off with some mud. Attempted some proper photos, but got the exposure wrong, so lots of post-production tweaking :(
I like the idea of the 'modern' traction engine pulling the traditional limber and the big gun.
THAT.... is splendid, Fred ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Very nice work as ever Fred! 8)
Double spot on :D
Looks jolly good. :-bd
Looks the mutts to me.
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
Thanks chaps - glad you like it. :-[
I picked up the Holt tractor on a bit of whim, as in GWSH it has little direct use - but its a militarised steam engine, so has to be done.
Quote from: fred 12df on 24 August 2014, 08:03:51 PM
Thanks chaps - glad you like it. :-[
I picked up the Holt tractor on a bit of whim, as in GWSH it has little direct use - but its a militarised steam engine, so has to be done.
a) Like it a lot!
b) Objective!
With the usually butterfly like attention, its on to something else.
Done a quick few coats of dry brushing on some Trolls, these will be representing Gollums, creatures of the earth from Mongol myth, to give my Mongols a bit of support when facing undead and dragons.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Uj1YXrM5vWM/U_phgx_kwqI/AAAAAAAADFc/a5qH1ddU7iQ/s1024/photo.JPG)
There is about 5 shades on these - not that it really shows (and yes the bones are brown at the minute, but only to act as a base for a more bone colour).
Those are looking terrific, Fred. :-bd
The shading IS working very well !
I like 'em. :)
Cheers - Phil.
Bet Frodo was glad he didn't have to deal with that many gollums.
And you can't even see the ones wearing the magic ring...
Finished off the painting of the Gollums this morning. And have managed to get them based, and the bases painted later on.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aUuDdHEmxh8/U_uryQ_hJnI/AAAAAAAADF0/SxRql-LuvHE/s912/photo.JPG)
I've also rebased a load of BoFA eagles on to the same style of bases to be added to the fantastical Mongol hordes. Rebasing is much easier when the figures are only attached by a single piece of brass rod drilled into the old base.
Get a bit of flock and static grass on to these chaps in the next day or two. Then I'll need to paint some more Mongols otherwise I'll have more specials than core troops!
[thought that photo looked OK on my fine, but its a bit blurry >:( ]
Still looks marvelous, Fred......Even if the pic's not absolutely pin sharp.
(On the radio, early this morning....I heard the word marvelous is going out of fashion.....So I thought I'd use it here ! :D)
Cheers - Phil
Marvellous Fred! 8)
It's a size thing (ooer). The pic's blown up so much on my large desktop monitor that it's a bit blurry. On the iPhone in small size it looks sharp until I zoom! The golems have popped nicely now they're based & detailed, give the brown shading something to show against :)
Indeed, its just irritating, when you take a couple of photos, they look OK (on the small phone screen). Upload them, then when you pop the link into the forum post and see it full size, it all looks a bit rubbish.
I know these are just quick WIP shots - but having gone to the trouble of taking 2 to try to avoid camera shake, and binning the first because it was really poor. :-\
Anyway hardly the biggest problem.
Forces of Nature
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cxB0PFIa_qk/VAI_LL8PYaI/AAAAAAAADKE/FXvnKkY_QYo/s1280/photo.JPG)
Added a couple more water elementals, two bases of unicorns, and some more Gnomes (and rebased lots of previous gnomes) to my forces of nature.
Also managed to get out between showers to spray some more figures.
I'll try and remember to take some proper photos tomorrow, as I have based up the gollums and eagles too.
Very :-bd
Marvelous !
Cheers - Phil
Marvellous old chap! :)
Very nice indeed 8)
I do like those gnomes :)
Thanks chaps, I see the campaign to re-instate marvellous is doing well :D
Nik - the gnomes are funny little figures, I want them as earth creatures for which they work very well as - not quite sure what they are designed to be, as they are very squat, mainly unclothed, and have a couple of different sizes amongst the 4 castings.
Marvellous idea, and marvellous news about marvellous; I'm sure it will go marvellously.
Quote from: fred 12df on 31 August 2014, 08:19:20 AM
Nik - the gnomes are funny little figures, I want them as earth creatures for which they work very well as - not quite sure what they are designed to be, as they are very squat, mainly unclothed, and have a couple of different sizes amongst the 4 castings.
That's marvellous.
Having seen those piccies I was hoping for a Gnome with sling, but there isn't one sadly! Nice paint job, cracking little pointy eared fae-goblin sort of critters :)
Quote from: toxicpixie on 31 August 2014, 09:33:55 AM
little pointy eared fae-goblin sort of critters
Which is the best description of them!
There is another type of gnome figure in the Accessories range, with a wide brimmed tall pointy hat (gandalf style hat) - while I think they have hand weapons not slings, they might be more what you are looking for, which would be marvellous.
Fred, you are a marvel and I marvel at your marvellous painting skill and these marvellous little chaps are well up to your usual marvellous standard.
The goblinoids are marvellously brown ( perhaps a little too marvellously uniformly brown for my taste, even for earth-critters) but the marvellous water elementals are truly marvellous and the marvellous unicorns are marvellously painted too.
Marvellous!
P.S. I think the EU "marvellous" lake may be pretty well drained now ;) I'm off to make some toast, grab some pickle and make a dent in the EU cheese mountain :)
Quote from: fred 12df on 31 August 2014, 10:05:33 AM
Which is the best description of them!
There is another type of gnome figure in the Accessories range, with a wide brimmed tall pointy hat (gandalf style hat) - while I think they have hand weapons not slings, they might be more what you are looking for, which would be marvellous.
I want about twenty slingers for a Warmaster Albion army, which is actually representing the Fae Court of Spring and has a Celtic-ish elf barbarian flavour - will be using some Celts for the warband and I've got trolls in woad for the warped warriors (ogres), and want some sneaky goblin/gnome types for slingers. Or I might do centaurs with bows, only a couple to a base...
Quote from: toxicpixie on 31 August 2014, 02:39:34 PM
I want about twenty slingers for a Warmaster Albion army, which is actually representing the Fae Court of Spring and has a Celtic-ish elf barbarian flavour - will be using some Celts for the warband and I've got trolls in woad for the warped warriors (ogres), and want some sneaky goblin/gnome types for slingers. Or I might do centaurs with bows, only a couple to a base...
Leon, since we're talking about Warmaster Albion any plans to release the Fimm/ Fomorians/ Balori/ Trevors/ Whatever that were mentioned last year. I realise there's a long line of stuff on the "to be released" list but I would like to replace my GW Ogres, with the race I actually wanted to include when I wrote the list, eventually.
Slightly bigger stuff painted this weekend, in both cases ably assisted by my smallest assistant
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-33I2CoSsn_U/VAygT1z0OLI/AAAAAAAADOA/6jiLsuTqmp8/s1280/photo%25203.JPG)
Sheds x 2
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The start of a WWI trench mat / muddied ground area. This is about 2 to 2.5' wide to go over a standard green mat, with the idea to represent the most churned up area of the trenches. It is an ikea felt underlay mat, with acrylic paint mixed on to it.
I was attempting to follow the method here http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=68458.0 - but I think the paint was a bit thick, and perhaps the room a bit warm. It was hard to mix the paint directly on the mat, we ended up diluting the paint down a bit, and painting it on.
I did manage to spray a batch of 10mm figures, Royal Naval Division, I might even get a coat of dark blue on them now!
That's so cool!
Two sheds!! ;)
And the trenchline idea is great too.
Two sheds, and I think you can see pretty much all the clear floor space in both of them in that photo :-X
Made a start on the RND chaps, heavy dry brush of Night Blue, puttees in Kakhi
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OJl8uEr7fpw/VAzQe8FjWpI/AAAAAAAADOU/NCw99qhsBA8/s1280/photo.JPG)
Got to get me some of them for Antwerp.
Bit more work on the RND chaps
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7EAUBqEB8GA/VA4e5047tdI/AAAAAAAADPM/2LhqDNKdDX4/s1280/photo.JPG)
painted the sailor neck cloth things (do these have a proper name?) and the officers in army uniforms.
Trying to decide if I can be bothered to do the webbing in black against the dark blue, might do ammo pouches and bayonets and see where that gets me to.
Quote from: fred 12df on 08 September 2014, 09:28:43 PM
Trying to decide if I can be bothered to do the webbing in black against the dark blue, might do ammo pouches and bayonets and see where that gets me to.
Madness, Forbes, madness. That's where that will get you. ;) :D
;D
Looking great Fred. You going to do the piping on the blue jean collar?
Yes, definately going for white piping, will add a nice pit of contrast otherwise they are going to be very dark.
Those will look cracking with the piping !
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: fred 12df on 08 September 2014, 09:28:43 PM
Trying to decide if I can be bothered to do the webbing in black against the dark blue, might do ammo pouches and bayonets and see where that gets me to.
You might try a very dark grey on the webbing. I find that works quite well against Prussian blue. Even if you only touch the highlights.
some useful tips coming now for using these chaps in Antwerp.
Post 501 - Yet more RND
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I think these chaps are nearly done, did neck scarves last night. Rifles, bayonets, webbing in dark grey, officer's kit in dark brown, and the faces and hands of one strip who got missed the first time round :(
I have also realised that I need a few more figures. There were 4 battalions to the brigade, and in GWSH there are 4 company stands to a battalion, so 16 stands @ 3 figures each, so 48 + 2 for HQ stand. I ordered 40 figures, probably thinking 3 battalions.
Brilliant!
If I remember it's Anson, Howe and Nelson garrisons.
I like those lots, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps.
I found this poster which gives names of the battalions
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Royal_Naval_Division_recruiting_poster.jpg)
Three out of eight! ;D
I'm impressed I remembered that much.
Looking very good.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 11 September 2014, 06:51:14 AM
Three out of eight! ;D
I'm impressed I remembered that much.
Three out of four for 2
nd Brigade :)
And none mis-remembered ;) ;D ;D
Looking good
Take care
Andy
Thanks chaps.
At the risk of boring you all to death, here is today's exciting instalment of RND painting.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nV464CYHQsc/VBIWmJyAu5I/AAAAAAAADQI/K5g48UjOggk/s912/photo%25202.JPG)
Added a few highlights - which can't be seen in these photos, and got the figures based up.
Also based up some TB Line Arab archers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0ZRI-EEZP2Y/VBIWlfvTMEI/AAAAAAAADQI/s_niXDkt5u4/s912/photo%25201.JPG)
I have had these figures for years, and am finding them much harder to paint than the Pendraken Mongols - not really sure why, unless it is because there is so much detail on these they become hard to paint. I have also found that I dislike the brown base coat, even though it makes painting the horses quicker, it is a poor colour to paint over, the figure always seems to have too much of the base brown on show.
Great stuff Fred! :)
Naval Brigade progressing beautifully.
Wash the arabs.
Quote from: barbarian on 12 September 2014, 12:16:18 AM
Wash the arabs.
Yes, ultimately. But at the minute they are only about 50% painted. I've just got a bit bored so based them up.
8)...Very nice, Fred.
Cheers - Phil
;D ;D ;D
I thought it looked wrong when I wrote it.
But I'm French, so...
Quote from: barbarian on 12 September 2014, 12:16:18 AM
Wash the arabs.
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 12 September 2014, 09:19:18 AM
I do hope this is not a hygiene remark.
I thought it was a obscure reference to the Washing of the Spears.
C'est la vie... ;D ;D
C'est la guerre...
;)
C'est magnifique mais ....
ne pas l'gurre, or similar.
IanS
Royal Naval Division
3 battalions (nearly a Brigade, but not quite due to confusion on my part!)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sD0dabo93dc/VBYATAUcsdI/AAAAAAAADqg/torvGaEo_Sg/s1024/IMG_5378.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bPyWc9EfpCc/VBYATpULYCI/AAAAAAAADqo/9tMisAHqp7U/s1024/IMG_5374.jpg)
Not totally pleased with these photos - not sure if its the basing, or that they need a bit more highlights on the figures?
Mongol Fantastical Additions
Also took some photos of the Trolls and Eagles that I did the other week, to add to the Mongol forces for use in Fantasy games (much happier with these photos!)
Trolls
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W0WXaNUCZ8E/VBYAW2bjplI/AAAAAAAADrY/odZl2fyjkpw/s912/IMG_5303.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XJ_VtKiaJFA/VBYAWJq1o4I/AAAAAAAADrM/NagDAgUPPfw/s912/IMG_5321.jpg)
Eagles
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eEl6TUrilMQ/VBYAVsytc8I/AAAAAAAADrI/d0jEvhbPJ7s/s912/IMG_5343.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iE0atGpcf58/VBYAVDUIuaI/AAAAAAAADrA/t_KWzgVvwY8/s912/IMG_5348.jpg)
Sand Worms
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z6kzqQqzyNI/VBYAUpM0J8I/AAAAAAAADq4/RLqLdfocOcE/s912/IMG_5356.jpg)
The whole force
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VMvpad1Ei6c/VBYAUM_ukTI/AAAAAAAADqs/XR0euzW4Oy0/s912/IMG_5370.jpg)
Lots more Mongol cavalry to add still...
=D> =D> Really very nice. A great advert for the 10mm scale, and your abilities :-bd
(er, I hope that sounds right. I'm tired, and my brain ain't thinking right)
Very nice Fred.
Think the bases on the Naval boys need something, I always leave a few bare patches to break them up.
Maybe some tree stumps or fallen logs?
:-\
Excellent!
8)
Quote from: fred 12df on 14 September 2014, 08:58:32 PM
Royal Naval Division
Not totally pleased with these photos - not sure if its the basing, or that they need a bit more highlights on the figures?
Looking good, the piping works well :)
Perhaps a bit more of a silver highlight on the bayonets?
Have you done any metal on the muzzle of the rifles? Barrels would have helped if they weren't Lee Enfields
I'd go with the bases thing on those naval boys. Static grass, rocks, bushes, that sort of thing. similar to the fantasy photos.
The bases on the RND chaps, are supposed to have bare patches. I hadn't cleaned them up well enough after flocking them, after a bit of a brush there is more contrast now. Might try a few other bits - but I was going for something fairly simple for NW Europe style bases.
I'll have a look at what rifles they have (I don't think they were Lee Enfields) and paint a bit of barrel, and brighten up their bayonets.
flap flap go the butterfly's wings
I received a copy of Neil Thomas' One-hour Wargames yesterday - it was a birthday present, but only arrived now as it has only just been published. At first glance it seemed a bit thin on content, but on further reading its really good. There are 3 main parts to the book; the first part is 8 sets of simple rules for different periods from Ancients through to WWII - now these are obviously pretty simple, but they seem to bring out some key points of the different eras, and have simple definitions of the characteristic troops of each era - with descriptions and rules for 4 units in each era.
The main part of the book (and the part that is probably of most interest to most seasoned wargamers) is the section on 30 scenarios. These again are fairly broad brush affairs, but have enough to set up an interesting game and should work for any era, and will give some asymmetric games with often 1 side having 1/3 more troops than the other.
The final section which I've not looked at much yet is a pretty comprehensive bibliography by era.
Reading the book has already had me rummaging in the painted figures, trying to work out if I have enough figures to try out the rules for different eras. And if a book can make you want to play games then it must be pretty good in my book.
My horse and musket forces looked like a good match for the size of the games (about 6 units a side), but I realised that I needed to finish off some dismounted Dragoons to act as skirmishers. Half the figures had already been based, the others were at about 75% painted so a quick finish off, and the same for the limbers.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9vI-rE8m2wc/VBiuVa0XJpI/AAAAAAAADr0/mUvqJ4SMtMo/s1280/photo.JPG)
In rummaging I have spotted just how many figures I have on painting sticks that are at least undercoated, and often part painted. In the horse and musket drawer alone there are a further 5 sticks of troops.
Back to the RND chaps - a bit of research showed that they were armed with Charger-Loading Lee Enfields (CLLE) rather than the typical SMLE - but appearance wise these are pretty similar with most of the barrel covered by the wooden housing of the rifle.
The flaps of fate have dealt you a fine set of ideas Fred, look forwards to seeing those done. Nice research on RND. :D
They look SYW or WAS but not familiar with green with yellow facings. Are they Saxons?
I think they are SYW figures - the uniforms may be made up, or I may have seen them on one of the uniform sites.
They were originally painted as generic dismounted Dragoons to fulfil the light infantry option in Maurice, for the western nations without native Skirmisher troops. Now they are fulfilling the same role for another set of rules!
A few weeks ago I won the competition in Miniature Wargames for a large selection of Brigade Models 2mm buildings.
These are teeny tiny houses and factories - I have decided to use them to make BUA for GWSH, which uses 3" squares for towns and villages
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ULb6WZak334/VB9Ccv-UU3I/AAAAAAAADtI/ZFBQWTFA-F8/w1470-h874-no/FullSizeRender.jpg)
I got enough stuff to make 4 village bases and 6 town ones. Ignore the blue lines on the photos they are some writing that was previously on the plastic signage I used to mount these.
I am currently trying to add a few green stuff hedges/walls and other bits to break up the flat areas. But finding this quite hard as the GS sticks to everything but the base :(
Try to sand the spot where you want the green stuff. Or if you have a dremel or something, just use that to rough it up!
Cool plan, looks like it'll be cracking.
Maybe make the GS bits and bobs then superglue it down?
Really like those buildings. One day I'll do a Nik and produce a massive 2mm FPW set up.
Thanks for the ideas chaps.
The greenstuff seems to have stuck well overnight - it was just whilst using it, that it had the standard property of all sticky things, that they want to stick to you and the tools you are using much more than the thing they are meant to stick too >:(
DP - I remember the photos of Nik's 2mm Irregular towns - and these Brigade ones look much more detailed - and to a degree look bigger too. They have a big range of stuff, and even though they sent me loads, there are quite a lot more packs available.
I'm looking forward to getting some of these painted up, as I think they will look good with not too much effort. My only slight concern is that having based everything up, I might be making it hard for my self to do the painting.
Quote from: fred 12df on 22 September 2014, 04:19:35 PM
Thanks for the ideas chaps.
The greenstuff seems to have stuck well overnight - it was just whilst using it, that it had the standard property of all sticky things, that they want to stick to you and the tools you are using much more than the thing they are meant to stick too >:(
Keep your fingertips wet, that always does the trick for me when working with GS
Yes, and the scalpel or whatever you're using to push it about with. Keep dipping it into the water-pot.
Yes, I have been trying to remember to keep applying water - but even that there seems to be a happy medium between too much and too little!
I think one of the reasons I was having problems initial in getting stuff to stick to the bases was that I was transferring water from my fingers to the green stuff and the base.
Anyway its all learning - and I still have no idea how Clib and Phil turn this sticky green blob into figures.
Quote from: fred 12df on 23 September 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Anyway its all learning - and I still have no idea how Clib and Phil turn this sticky green blob into figures.
One human sacrifice per month to the puttygods, as far is i heard ...
The water dip is a definite must.
Quote from: petercooman on 23 September 2014, 08:57:42 PM
One human sacrifice per month to the puttygods, as far is i heard ...
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 22 September 2014, 03:36:43 PM
Really like those buildings. One day I'll do a Nik and produce a massive 2mm FPW set up.
Go on - you know it makes sense :D
Got the building bases sprayed black over the weekend
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jADsFXCrNLw/VCnTaKlem3I/AAAAAAAADyE/po6EFkZCQR4/w640-h480-no/IMG_1142.JPG)
But no further with them yet
I've been having a play with painting some fire elementals, I have tried to paint them brighter on the inside, and darker on the outside, to give a fire like glow. I have seen this effect on some smoke markers and it looks good. But with these I'm not so sure.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hCsLuQU107o/VCnRvvfng1I/AAAAAAAADxg/2N8RZfsnzLs/w1332-h736-no/FullSizeRender.jpg)
The ones at the back are the brighter on the inside, style, the ones at the front are some previous ones, with black shadows, red, then yellow on the tips.
I'm not at all sure about the new ones, it might be because I haven't really painted a core of the fire - but I found this a bit difficult to work out with the sculpting of the mini. Perhaps the mouth should be white, with yellow around, then orange further out.
The best one is front left because it has orange in it, a must for fire.
The back row all have a fair bit of orange in them, it's just got lost under the top coats.
I'm not sure about the bright inside idea, might make the back ones more like the front ones
Front left looks better to me, the orange on the tips works nicely. Orange highlights across the board give it a 'flamey' appearance.
(http://thomaszinsavage.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/FIRE-2-GENERIC.jpg)
Leon,
That is a brilliant illustration. I think I would go for a dry brush of brilliant golden yellow to provide hightights on the bodies and central flames. I think you need to be bold with this sort of thing - subtle doesn't do it! :D
Mollinary
That helps, thanks chaps.
I think you are right, mollinary, bold matters - especially with yellow which is usually so rubbish at covering.
I will reverse the colours somewhat on the new ones, and perhaps add some more highlights to the old ones.
Love the way flames look alive.
A touch of white or veryveryveryvery light blue in the heart of the flame is good too...
It adds heart and life, but don't use anthropomorphic personification about inanimate objects, they don't like it!
Is fire inanimate? Don't want to get burned of this one.
Coat? Techno?
Oh...
Quote from: mad lemmey on 30 September 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Love the way flames look alive.
A touch of white or veryveryveryvery light blue in the heart of the flame is good too...
This was what I was trying to do - but the sculpting makes it quite hard to define the centre of the fire
Quote from: mad lemmey on 30 September 2014, 07:51:24 PM
It adds heart and life, but don't use anthropomorphic personification about inanimate objects, they don't like it!
Is fire inanimate?
This is the problem - it has a nose and eyes sculpted, and a mouth to a degree.
I don't think fire can be described as inanimate - but it is certainly not alive.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 30 September 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Don't want to get burned of this one.
Oh...
Bit more work on the Fire Elementals - gone back to the original style, or black shadows, red, then yellow
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KeWNjL3bD0E/VC3D-u6Km1I/AAAAAAAADzA/1KPx6Yfx5O8/w1280-h464-no/FullSizeRender.jpg)
New ones on the right, older on the left. The new ones use a brighter yellow, that looks very bright in these photos
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QnjBIKEo_kI/VC3EB8d8iUI/AAAAAAAADzI/aYCop0IRYnU/w1307-h687-no/FullSizeRender.jpg)
All 6 stands of fire elementals (looking a bit out of focus, perhaps its heat haze...)
Also remembered to take a photo of the extra stands of Forest Shamblers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DZqn_Oct5hk/VC3EFrz5k9I/AAAAAAAADzw/ZS1D_se0hrA/w1306-h755-no/FullSizeRender.jpg)
These were painted at the weekend. They are a mix of Pendraken and Splintered Light figures
Both new & old look good to me!
All look superb Fred. Nice one. 8)
Thanks chaps
8) Fred, particularly like the scorched ground they've advanced over, nice touch
Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 03 October 2014, 06:51:19 AM
8) Fred, particularly like the scorched ground they've advanced over, nice touch
Good spot! I think this was my own idea, it came to me when I started flocking the bases, and realised any grass behind them would be burnt.
Excellent stuff.
looking good :)
Some photos from last night - forgot to post them yesterday.
Neither set is Pendraken (boo, hiss) but both are 10mm
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jCL7UcetHh0/VDGd7FlGdPI/AAAAAAAAD0k/p7csHgnpt_E/w1306-h625-no/FullSizeRender.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mAQR5Fo5NAw/VDGd-0bARyI/AAAAAAAAD0s/c7ZtZ4cBEyc/w1306-h661-no/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Damn, really wish if backed that Kickstarter for the Landsknectes!
Too lot are looking tasty as well :)
Nice Fred!
Thanks chaps, the cavalry are Kallistra a couple of their eastern European codes - they are going to form some irregular lancers to augment my Empire forces.
The Warmonger Landsnekcts are very nice - almost too nice, they have so much detail, I'm not quite sure how to paint them! I think they are due to be on sale shortly outside the kickstarter, they only downside is that the shipping and customs soon add up. What they need is a UK distributor....
A UK distributer would be lovely... Still, I might dabble when I see the price. I do need some extras and if they're not utterly unreasonable, Xmas is coming ;)
Bit more work on the lancers - and enough painted to get them based up.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W0amYYQmeJo/VDG35WgEyKI/AAAAAAAAD1M/LH0m5GVlIVQ/w1280-h1050-no/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Still need to add a wash, and probably some highlights after that.
Another unit pretty much done, and just over the weekend.
I do like those lancers :-bd
Thanks.
Not much progress tonight, mainly an overall brown wash, and a layer of sand on the bases.
Looking good though chap.
Quote from: fred 12df on 05 October 2014, 08:39:49 PM
Thanks chaps, the cavalry are Kallistra a couple of their eastern European codes - they are going to form some irregular lancers to augment my Empire forces.
The Warmonger Landsnekcts are very nice - almost too nice, they have so much detail, I'm not quite sure how to paint them! I think they are due to be on sale shortly outside the kickstarter, they only downside is that the shipping and customs soon add up. What they need is a UK distributor....
I echo fred's comments. very nice minis, so much detail on them.
I've bought 2 units via the kickstarter, including bases. I reckon each unit set me back £10.35 - the most expensive I've ever bought.
Having said that, it's definitely a case of you get what you pay for - in this case TOP quality. Highly recommended.
Quote from: andys on 07 October 2014, 07:16:05 PM
I've bought 2 units via the kickstarter, including bases. I reckon each unit set me back £10.35 - the most expensive I've ever bought.
My mate and I got 18 units in total - about half from the KS and half as add-ons after - these worked out at £7.75 each, ( even with Royal Mail handling charges >:( ) which is not bad at all.
Check out Eureka pricing - its even more!!
We shouldn't post this kind of stuff, Leon will be having price rises!!
Quote from: fred 12df on 07 October 2014, 07:34:37 PM
We shouldn't post this kind of stuff, Leon will be having price rises!!
:D
:o ^#(^ :-t X_X
We can always blackmail him to keep the prices low, you know with the naked x-boxing and all that....
Anybody who volunteers to take pictures???
:-&
In a, probably vain, attempt to get that image out of our heads, here's some more toy soldiers
Got the lancers based up tonight, and a few highlights added, I'm pleased with the way these have come out.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TRyl8ssfiK0/VDRa0LkbNEI/AAAAAAAAD2E/FE_0Btso9l4/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g_gtHmbt59o/VDRa1NmyJ-I/AAAAAAAAD2E/TSPSKcH89eY/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LQfC_M5n7jY/VDRa0joV3OI/AAAAAAAAD2E/dbHLpor2uOA/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
They work really well Fred. 8)
The lancers got their first outing on Friday night, and true to the expectations of newly painted figures, they died to a man - and I think failed to do any damage to the enemy, hurrah!!
On to the next unit - some Zweihander swordsmen from Warmonger miniatures
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U1mWFqF3IVI/VDr1bSN2M8I/AAAAAAAAD3U/Srh8Xs6PpC8/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Going for crazy landsneckt style clothing - but with limited colour palette so they have some semblance of a unit when finished. These have painted up much more easily than I thought they would, the detail of the sculpts is nice and deep and helps guide the brush. Which is good because I had been worried they would be very hard work to paint.
Looking great.
STOP MAKING ME CRY THAT I FAILED TO BACK THE KICKSTARTER!
Very nice :)
Well done the Lancers, great job. Did the enemy at least twist an ankle climbing over their corpses?! Or perhaps get food poisoning from undercooked horsemeat :D
Quote from: toxicpixie on 13 October 2014, 08:50:12 AM
STOP MAKING ME CRY THAT I FAILED TO BACK THE KICKSTARTER!
Mwhahahaha!!
I do think they are going to be available for sale o/s the kickstarter soonish.
Quote from: toxicpixie on 13 October 2014, 08:50:12 AM
Well done the Lancers, great job. Did the enemy at least twist an ankle climbing over their corpses?! Or perhaps get food poisoning from undercooked horsemeat :D
At worst they strained their wrist reloading their crossbows....
Ooo, strained wrist, that's nasty :P Maybe horse-burger with Lancer relish will be too hard to lift and your cavalry might recover some losses post game?!
I hope they do come up for sale, I just fear the import taxes unless they cast & ship within the EU...
Lovely work, as always, Fred !
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks Phil
Good to have you back!
Thanks to you, Fred.
It's wonderful to be back !
Cheers - Phil
Not a lot of painting this week, mainly just a unit of Warmaster Knights.
Fought a big battle last night, my Forces of nature vs an unholy Alliance of orcs and demons
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hxUOEq28CPo/VEuS0JDzdhI/AAAAAAAAD4A/Ks79QVQOlC0/w1310-h983-no/IMG_1204.JPG)
The nature infantry is about to smash through the Orc ring of green. While the demons are lost in the distance.
edit - finally get the right image address
That is an impressive looking battle.
Looks cracking!
Nice looking table. Like the tree bases...are they hardboard?
Thanks chaps, glad you like the battle.
The tree bases aren't mine - I think they are hardboard or MDF based - the trees are fixed in position, which is actually a bit awkward for playing on
Here's another view, slightly more to the left, my Centaurs and Unicorns (out of shot) face off hordes of trolls.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cpPR7WJNrTA/VEwJnHEXPvI/AAAAAAAAD4s/cPRpYIMKu7s/s1280/IMG_1203.JPG)
good looking game
I think "Phwoar !! sums that up !! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Handsome game, Fred. The fixed tree bases look very effective, although best avoided by troops if at all possible.
Rather impressive! so nice armies
As its Thursday must be time to paint some Lizardmen ;D :P
For whatever reason, I decided to get on with my Lizardmen army ( I can't remember quite how long I bought these, but there is probably an incriminating post or two around the arrival of the figures). Some of the lizards have been pressed into service as Salamanders in the Nature army - and it is perhaps how effective these look and how quick they were to paint, that prompted further progress.
Forever ago I sprayed a load of the newtmen green (which I am using as skinks, the smallest lizardmen that operate as skirmishers). But only finished painting 6 bases of them. So this afternoon I have painted up the rest that had been undercoated. Which gives me a further 10 bases.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zKkuSxhTIFA/VFK0sTMXq7I/AAAAAAAAD5o/DUUh-Vqav84/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
I have also found a further 20 or so figures that need spraying. It feels a bit like cheating using coloured base coat - but on the other hand it gets units on the table quickly.
I also cleaned and sprayed some cavalry
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o79ij9aK4BY/VFK0q6FrS2I/AAAAAAAAD5o/WF78fHL2Afc/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
A mix of the lizardmen raptor riders (blue) and the tribal lizardmen riders (black), my wife has suggested a greenish brown colour for these, as they are dinosaur like. The blue ones will get white 'fur' on their backs, and green riders.
Also cleaned up some of the 15mm Lizardmen from minibits to act as the large Kroxigors
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j4sd_R1IbYk/VFK0rV0LLwI/AAAAAAAAD5o/X7-QK4XxXPA/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
In a truly awful photo!
Just found it was March / April 2012 when these were bought...
As well as the above, there are 100+ tribal lizardmen warriors to clean and undercoat, as well as a few lizard flyers, another dinosaur, and a few more GW salamanders.
Looking good, Fred ! :)
Cheers - Phil.
Fred, why does that bottom picture strongly remind me of the World Five-Man Surfing competition at Waikiki? :D
Glad you spotted the look I was going for :P
Lizardmen on surf boards sounds good though...
More progress on the lizard riders - in-roads into the sea of blue.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XQyS3oxxzMg/VFQNSudMCFI/AAAAAAAAD6E/fcI7Z5yAvLg/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
A blue wash to the bodies, light blue and white highlights to the 'fur'. Riders painted green, and skulls on top of spears painted.
Don't know about adding a highlight to the blue lizards? Need to add yellow to the backs of the riders, and paint the spear shafts. Then getting near.
Done a bit of counting up:
22 stands of skinks (mostly painted!!!)
24 stands of saurus warriors (totally unpainted, but sorted into mixed groups of 30 for painting)
12 stands of kroxigor (base coated)
7 stands of cold one riders (+ some raptor riders 3 or 4 stands )
5 terradon riders (flyers)
2 stegadon dinosaurs
2 other dinosaurs
Impressive.
Good looking army
Well done sir! 8)
Looking really fine, Fred !
Cheeers - Phil
Thank you, kind Generals.
Jchaos - I hope it will be an army soon!
Pretty much finished the painting on the lizard riders - but no photos, as I was taking advantage of the daylight in the conservatory this afternoon, and I have left them in there, and its too cold and dark to go and find them!!
Also made a decent start on the Big Lizards
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sdH7U2pHxZQ/VFVdfIv4VAI/AAAAAAAAD6k/TGto6L56XtY/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Gone for a darker green on these (GW Scaly Green) with orange tail and head colours.
A lot of the figures have what look like obsidian swords - I'm not sure how to paint these, on a test stand I went for a pale wood and a fairly bright green. But this doesn't show up too well, either on the photo or in real life
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mP-7eanfNVA/VFVdft-Ni4I/AAAAAAAAD6k/nHVzeFeoNOM/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Any thoughts on these - I'm tempted to just paint them as metal, partly so they stand out, and also because some of the figures are wearing mail, and the swords have metal hilts, so doing them as obsidian edge wooden swords feels a bit odd.
Maybe bronze or copper if you want a more antique feel?
Obsidian itself is basically black with purplish hints, at least in my, admittedly limited, experience.
Green would be jade which is more suited for use in maces rather than blades.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 01 November 2014, 10:36:18 PM
Obsidian itself is basically black with purplish hints, at least in my, admittedly limited, experience.
Ah. That would probably explain why when I googled images earlier they were all very dark for the stones on the edges. Not sure why I had green in my head.
But I suspect a dark blackish purple isn't going to show up very well either.
A copper/bronze colour may work better.
I think Copper/bronze is a good idea. Very nice vegetation
I agree with the copper/bronze idea ! :)
Cheers - Phil
like these Fred.
I'd go bronze as well
Bronze, definitely bronze.
Love the basing Fred.
Bronze. It is then.
Glad you like the basing, I've got a big pile of aquarium plants to cut up and stick into the bases, a bit fiddly but looks good.
Got the Kroxigors based up (and swords painted brass), loitering in the background are some WM knights, who were painted the other week but got based up as well today
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FlRHy8ZMhYY/VFatx5NSRyI/AAAAAAAAD7I/OgGilv9TnKg/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
I think these guys need some highlights adding, they look a bit dark and mono-chrome.
Also based up the lizard riders
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6ZbPSKx9LUY/VFatxXhxdlI/AAAAAAAAD7I/SU6wHb2eCM0/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Next step is to junglify the bases...
Those knights are reiksguard models, right? but looks like blazing sun. Love them.
Kroxigor are full of character, great figures. :DThere are also some warmonger landschenettes in the back. great!
Cracking stuff again, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: jchaos79 on 02 November 2014, 10:35:16 PM
Those knights are reiksguard models, right? but looks like blazing sun. Love them.
Kroxigor are full of character, great figures. :DThere are also some warmonger landschenettes in the back. great!
Some of the Knights are the blazing sun figures, the rest I think are the normal ones. They came as part of a job lot from ebay.
14,000 views broken today!!
In celebration (not really ;) ) I have placed a small order with Pendraken! A few more Lizardmen to round out units, and some bases to stick them to.
Good excuse!
Congratulations, always something interesting to view here :-bd
Played a game on Friday - our home brew Fantasy rules - tried lots of new things, some of which worked pretty well.
And on Sunday a couple of quick games of Songs of Blades and Heroes with my daughters - who wanted to use 10mm figures this time, rather than the 28mm we had used in the past - this led to some rather strong units, and my smallest daughter's Lizardmen convincingly beat both the eldest's Centaurs and my Mongols!!
Not much time for painting at the weekend, or so far this week.
Managed to do a bit of basing on the large lizardmen, both over the weekend and tonight - I think these are pretty much done
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x_hBJLreNWI/VGPYydShjVI/AAAAAAAAD7k/A-lIV_kc0IA/s1152/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Very nice indeed
Cracking! Very swampy jungle looking :)
That works extremely well, Fred ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil.
bases are fabulous! are the flowers from Magister millitum?
Thanks chaps.
The flower tufts ( and small bushes ) are from Tajima miniatures - they are very nice and are very quick at delivering.
The more upright bits are cut up aquarium plants.
Is there a special adjective to describe waiting for a Pendraken parcel?
doormatitis?
That's the thing where you check the doormat under your letterbox everytime you hear something fall ;D ;D
As I'm out during the day, its more the quick check to see if a parcel is sitting on the corner of my desk, when I get home.
The worst is that I check most 2 days after placing the order, which is obviously no time for the stuff to get here.
There is definitely something about ordering new stuff - even if 80% of the order is extras of stuff you already have.
Quote from: fred 12df on 19 November 2014, 10:00:33 PM
There is definitely something about ordering new stuff - even if 80% of the order is extras of stuff you already have.
:D :D :D
I always dread the moment something new arrives and y wife says: "but you already have that."
There is always much explaining involved :P
Really liking those lizards and the bases are fab
Quote from: petercooman on 19 November 2014, 10:52:02 PM
Quote from: fred 12df on 19 November 2014, 10:00:33 PM
There is definitely something about ordering new stuff - even if 80% of the order is extras of stuff you already have.
:D :D :D
I always dread the moment something new arrives and y wife says: "but you already have that."
There is always much explaining involved :P
Have it delivered to work and quietly slip it into the house, can then claim to have had it for ages... :d
Works most of the time for me :)
Although wife once drove past me as I was walking home with a box of Timecast AWI/ACW buildings :o :-[
Recently I've had the excuse, these are Peter's ;) soon to be followed by Peter paid for these O:-)
I dread the "so why have you ordered this? Our baby needs wiiiiiine" conversation! Slip in quietly as "it's for work" helps ;)
Quote from: toxicpixie on 20 November 2014, 09:32:56 AM
I dread the "so why have you ordered this? Our baby needs wiiiiiine" conversation! Slip in quietly as "it's for work" helps ;)
You give your baby Wine !!!
The best ways to stop the Wife saying " Why have you ordered this?"
Do the same for every piece of clothing she buys when the wardrobe is full
Ask "why do you need more than one handbag etc"
One of the guys at Tring Club recently retired and both he and his wife have thier own monthly allowance that they can spend on thier own stuff without recourse to the other one of negative comments.
He is now buying all that he wants and his wife is endlessly e-baying handbags etc because she runs out of her allowance so quickly. ;D
The one that really stops the whining is getting rid of the wife - humanely of course :d
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 20 November 2014, 10:47:10 AM
The one that really stops the whining is getting rid of the wife - humanely of course :d
"I thought I might get you some exotic perfume for your birthday."
"I don't want perfume!"
"Well how about a diamond necklace?"
"I don't want a necklace!"
"I could get you that car you've been talking about."
"Don't want a car!"
"Then what the heck do you want??!!"
"I want a divorce!!"
".......... geez! I wasn't thinking of spending THAT much!" :d
Oddly enough, no :P
She's a great advert for babies actually, barely whines at all!
These days I don't even drink much wine myself. Although I did have two pints of beer at the club last night and that's left me a bit battered. Think I need more practise...
Quote from: Ithoriel on 20 November 2014, 10:56:39 AM
"I want a divorce!!"
".......... geez! I wasn't thinking of spending THAT much!" :d
Best £150K I ever spent !!!!!!
Before you ask:-
Yes it was at least that much >:(
Yes It really was worth it :D
Still no parcel....
Its been like months* since I ordered....
I've got nothing* to paint....
I'll be forced* into doing jobs around the house
*some of the above may not be strictly true
You can come round and help me muck out Mrs T's gee-gees if you want, Fred.
Cheers - Phil
Thanks for the kind* offer Phil.
Unfortunately I'm busy* with something really important - that is warm and doesn't involve poo.
*see above
It's only grass that's been chewed and gone through an organic tube.
It's not the poo itself that bothers me....It's the weight of the damn stuff in a wheelbarrow :'( :'( :'(
Cheers - Phil ;)
So once again, a nice thread derails and ends up going about poo
:-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd we are the best :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd
The sound of it derailing into poo was squelchy!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D =O =O =O
Stepping carefully forwards...
Not much time for painting - but I have made up some movement trays - using some old plastic signage, lined with steel paper.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-slRgFDNqTNE/VHISkGNAPII/AAAAAAAAD8A/kZ-nBHZv-fY/s1024/IMG_1278.JPG)
All sprayed camo green - which seems to blend in with the table fairly well.
Those look rather zippy, Fred ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
When you are thinking in moving trays for 10mm, then means you are playing Great battles!
Ha, ha!
We are playing home brewed rules at the minute, units are typically 6 to 8 warmaster stands in size. The biggest of the trays I made will take 12 stands, for a pike block 4 wide and 3 deep - but that would be a huge unit - perhaps more often seen with goblins.
Exactly 16,000 views as I post this!!
Something a bit different tonight
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dGd1k__lc5g/VHZWHNK_hFI/AAAAAAAAD8Y/diFsCBntZ0E/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
We are going to try out the Altar of Freedom ACW rules on Friday - and I don't have any figures for this period, and all my gaming mates figures are based on smaller bases. So I have made some paper top down figures, stuck to mounting board. They can double as sabot bases and as figures in the short term.
One thing you can't argue with is speed of output - I have created the equivalent of 3 box files of figures in 2 evenings - and much of the first evening was spent messing around generating the first page or so of images. Doing the rest of the images tonight was much quicker as I had got the hang of what was needed. Then cutting them out has taken no more than an hour.
I'm quite impressed with both how they look, and feel on the mounting board. Not as good as metal figures of course, but much better than paper cutouts.
and should be easy to store, do not consume space.
Very nice
Peter did something very similar for our first couple of ITLSU test games and it worked very well :)
What a great way to test rules.
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks chaps. Yes they will be very compact to store - and make it easy to test out new rules.
Pendraken Parcel :)
:D
Pendraken Parcel :)
:D
As you were.
Damn, I almost heard the thunk from here!
It wasn't that big!!
Some bases, just 1 pot of paint (so that's OK with Royal Mail!)
A bit of WWI
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oOllkpkljPI/VHekteF6e1I/AAAAAAAAD9A/sfZS-ukVaxs/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
These 9.2" howitzers which are fab!!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FprjifIHj38/VHektxXdlXI/AAAAAAAAD9A/hjQUZhDFWhk/s1280/IMG_1284.JPG)
Some early war Cavalry (and a few extra Royal Naval Div, because I can't count!)
And a few extra Lizardmen to round out some units
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oF8NcmzevTE/VHekuUJHSFI/AAAAAAAAD9A/V3P2frlLJXQ/s1280/IMG_1285.JPG)
Although that seems to mainly be a photo of my keyboard, and some blurry bags
;D
Nice bags tho'. ;) ;D
And I'd expect to see the odd 'paint fingerprint' on the white keys of the board. ;)
Cheers - Phil
Keyboards and acrylic paint don't mix. Perhaps that explains your perennial PC problems.
IanS :D
Nah, Ian.
It's all the green stuff that gets lodged between the keys that causes the problem.
(When do I ever get the chance to actually get the paints out..... :'( :'( :'()
Cheers - Phil ;)
Yet again - work faster....
btw - one of my learners last week was impressed by the labs.
IanS
The 9.2s are really impressive beasties. Look forward to seeing them painted.
More WWI great.... I mean, great war
I've somehow managed to keep the keyboard and screen clean of paint - I tend to get very little on my fingers when painting 10mm. Perhaps because the figures are always on painting sticks or bases, so there is a fair bit of clearance between brush and fingers.
With the 9.2" howitzers I think I will do one green, and one in the dazzle camo like the IWM one.
Played Altar of Freedom (ACW rules) for the first time last night - went down pretty well with the gang. They liked the turn clock and priority points system. Not sure that we worked out the best tactics as we did very little damage to each side. We are going to play again next week - and actually use figures rather than my counters!
Quote from: ianrs54 on 28 November 2014, 08:50:55 AM
btw - one of my learners last week was impressed by the labs.
:)
Cheers - Phil
I had a rummage through some of my storage boxes this afternoon (while my wife was out!) - crikey do I have a lot of late era romans!!! Not really sure when these guys are going to get painted - I would like to progress them. But think the Lizardmen will be quicker to finish, then want to do some more Mongols. And on the way I'm bound to want to do some more Empire.
This evening I cleaned-up and stuck some lizardmen to painting strips, ready to spray paint at some point. Which may not be until next weekend considering how early it is dark now.
I've got some flyers to paint up, but am unsure of colour scheme to use, any thoughts?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FqFsvk6ZEKM/T43JZtHZxUI/AAAAAAAAA_o/wDpAR69mAF8/s1024/IMG_1519.jpg)
The units I have painted so far are in the following colours ( I am going for a jungle theme )
Lizardmen infantry are a bright green. The large lizard cavalry are a dark blue. The large lizards a dark turquoise green. The dinosaurs are a range of dark greens and browns.
Pale undersides, dappled upper like modern raptor such as a peregrine falcon? :-\
Interesting idea - not sure I can pull off the dapple on the underside (or as it will be so hidden, whether it is worth the effort?)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Peregrine_Falcon_(3938274380).jpg)
Grey, then wash, then highlight it. :-\
That is original !
Don't get between that birdie and his lunch.
Quote from: fred 12df on 30 November 2014, 10:14:30 PM
I've got some flyers to paint up, but am unsure of colour scheme to use, any thoughts?
The units I have painted so far are in the following colours ( I am going for a jungle theme )
Lizardmen infantry are a bright green. The large lizard cavalry are a dark blue. The large lizards a dark turquoise green. The dinosaurs are a range of dark greens and browns.
Top dragon......Green with yellow/brown underside ?
Bottom....Dark blue with blue/gray underside ?
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: fred 12df on 30 November 2014, 10:14:30 PM
I've got some flyers to paint up, but am unsure of colour scheme to use, any thoughts?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FqFsvk6ZEKM/T43JZtHZxUI/AAAAAAAAA_o/wDpAR69mAF8/s1024/IMG_1519.jpg)
Quote from: fred 12df on 30 November 2014, 10:14:30 PM
I've got some flyers to paint up, but am unsure of colour scheme to use, any thoughts?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FqFsvk6ZEKM/T43JZtHZxUI/AAAAAAAAA_o/wDpAR69mAF8/s1024/IMG_1519.jpg)
Splinter camouflage? ;)
Splinter would look groovy... and dinosaurs may well have been all sorts of colours so there's precedent...
What army are they for?
Thanks I for all the ideas chaps.
I am leaning towards a blue/grey like the falcon. The splinter idea is interesting...
Tp - they are for a Lizardmen army, there are more details a page or two back.
Ah yes, I've seen them... A blue/grey splinter with some thing bright for contrast would look good!
Quote from: toxicpixie on 01 December 2014, 06:56:57 PM
A blue/grey splinter with some thing bright for contrast would look good!
Yes, I think I will go with the peregrine falcon colours, but in a more splinter/stripes pattern. Should be different at least!
Lizard Raptors
A quick block in of the main blue colour for the wings - went with Oxford Blue - which looks a bit more purple in the photo than in real life.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ojkKOhVM5Xg/VH5Fr_s_7HI/AAAAAAAAD9g/NPnnBcZzrmY/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
That has come out a bit 'purply' in the photo. :-\
Looks like that'll work well, though.
Cheers - Phil
Wowzers, they didn't look that purple on the iPhone!
Should be a good base colour, anyway :)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a78V7maCFiw/VIDg_mJ7_nI/AAAAAAAAD98/fTdIRyh5v84/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
More work on the Raptors - undersides of the wings done in sea grey with a touch of oxford blue. Bodies done with a bit more blue added. Then angular stripes added to the wings with the same slightly darker grey/blue - these have been highlighted slightly.
I attempted to included more things in the photo (now mostly cropped out) to make the colour balance better.
Looking good! :)
8)
Cheers - Phil
Giving the right impression.
IanS
I'm totally amazed. My suggestion was intended to be satirical. Oh, well, many a true word.... :)
Really impressed with the painting scheme. Yes, I like it!
something I never would have thought of doing but works really well :-bd
Quote from: Hertsblue on 05 December 2014, 10:00:28 AM
I'm totally amazed. My suggestion was intended to be satirical. Oh, well, many a true word.... :)
Arse! :o
Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 05 December 2014, 03:09:24 PM
something I never would have thought of doing but works really well :-bd
Quote from: jchaos79 on 05 December 2014, 12:28:51 PM
Really impressed with the painting scheme. Yes, I like it!
But it seems to of worked!
Thanks for the ideas chaps, it seems the sum of the parts has some worth.
They were fun to paint, I have a couple more to do, if I manage to spray them at the weekend.
They look great.
Ta ML - it was your idea that got me started. I might still do some under wing dapples.
I forgot to ask before, Fred.
What sort of lighting/light source are you using ?
One of the things that has always puzzled me, is why do certain colours look fine.....(I'm guessing the cutting mat is a fair colour match).....and others shift.
If there was a colour 'cast' over the whole piccy, that would be understandable.
Cheers - Puzzled of Pembrokeshire. :-\
Most of these photos have been taken on my painting desk using the normal desk lamp - its some kind of modern one, but not a low energy or halogen one. The photos are only taken with my iPhone, because its much handier than using the proper DSLR. I'm sure the green cutting mat background confuses the white balance setting on the phone, I've noticed this before with other solid green backgrounds.
If I get chance during the week I might try some using the proper camera and various white balance settings.
Got some spraying done this afternoon - before it was dark at 3:30!!!!. 4 different colours, to get the extra lizards sorted.
I also did some major rebasing of my WM giant eagles. Our home brew rules are using 40mm square bases, and the WM eagle's wingspan is so big that they are really hard to rank-up into a unit. So I have rebased them with some at the front of the base, and some at the back. This makes them fit together much better.
WM Giant Eagles - rebased, and now tidying up the paint jobs on them.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lJr8P5nFPJs/VIeBkLMawvI/AAAAAAAAD-g/hdVD9xeSlhE/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Those look splendid, Fred ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
They're cracking :)
The "back and front" basing works well - I can't see how you'd get them on otherwise :-\
Quote from: mad lemmey on 22 November 2014, 08:55:53 PM
The sound of it derailing into poo was squelchy!
Its not a squelchy sound that Techno makes when his wheelbarrw derails and the poo goes down his wellies. ;D
Still thats his fault for doing Mrs T's jobs when he should be doing german paras ;)
:P :P :P :P
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps. They need a bit more work still
The other way to base them is to bend the wings much higher up. I have another set done that way, but they need under coating still
I got round the problem in the end by getting a set of Pendraken Eagles and a couple of sets of GW Man O' War Elven Eagle Riders (with the riders snipped off). So much easier than the two sets of the real thing which wound up being both offset and having their wings posed so they fitted together.
Very nice.
eagles fly free !
good job
They look fantastic
Take care
Andy
After a few busy days, managed to get a bit of time to add some different shades to some of the eagles wings, add a wash for some depth, and get the bases done tonight.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4SLNaHAZkpA/VJCyFXMSQrI/AAAAAAAAD-w/WhFVwiyGeBA/s912/FullSizeRender.jpg)
I'm pleased how these have come out, with not too much effort, they have gone from a motley collection to looking pretty good - just need a spray of dull cote if the weather co-operates at some point.
I'm hoping this thread can get to 50 pages and 20k views by the end of the year, which would be significant!
I do like those eagles :)
:-bd
Very nice - you'd think they were much bigger scale, really nice job!
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
50 pages is certainly do-able
;)
Not so sure about 20,000 views but best of luck
Brilliant.
Fifty
Pages.
Easy
Thanks chaps
Quote from: toxicpixie on 17 December 2014, 12:31:18 AM
Very nice - you'd think they were much bigger scale, really nice job!
They are pretty huge, much more the size of a 28mm figure
I don't know if 20k views is doable, the view count has gone up about 1000 in the last couple of weeks, and there tends to be quite a lot of activity over Christmas.
Quote from: fred 12df on 26 November 2014, 10:46:06 PM
Exactly 16,000 views as I post this!!
Finally found when I posted a page view count. So 2700 more views in about 3 weeks, would make 20k look possible. I need you eyes chaps @-)
Eagles look absolutely cracking, Fred !! :-bd
You want my eyes ?
I'd stick with your own....Mine are pretty rubbish.
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 17 December 2014, 08:05:55 AM
Eagles look absolutely cracking, Fred !! :-bd
You want my eyes ?
I'd stick with your own....Mine are pretty rubbish.
Cheers - Phil
Yep, mine come complete with two sets of spectacles and a magnifying glass. :'(
Umm, that wasn't too clear was it.
I only want your eyes, in a temporary, looking at the thread kind of way, not in a wrapped up in a box in the post kind of way. ;)
Quote from: fred 12df on 17 December 2014, 08:59:29 PM
Umm, that wasn't too clear was it.
I only want your eyes, in a temporary, looking at the thread kind of way, not in a wrapped up in a box in the post kind of way. ;)
Allright then, was too eager, send them back when they arrive please...
Ok, but they might be delayed by the Christmas post, so if they are a bit mouldy just rinse them off before you pop them back in.
Eagels are coming !!!
Quote from: fred 12df on 17 December 2014, 10:25:04 PM
Ok, but they might be delayed by the Christmas post, so if they are a bit mouldy just rinse them off before you pop them back in.
:-bd :-bd
Quote from: jchaos79 on 18 December 2014, 04:47:33 PM
Eagels are coming !!!
You could perhaps go as far as, the Eagles have Landed.
The filum with Channing Tatum and Jamie Bell is on tonight. (The Eagle that is).
What time? Which channel?
Film 4 at 21:00.
Less than 1,000 views and
about 2/3 of a page to go...
;)
What are we trying to do.....Just fill this page up ?
Does this help ?
Cheers - Phil. (I'll try and remember to keep coming back and looking even if no-one's posted, as well.)
Well, it gets rid of the need for one set of specs, Phil.
Sorry to small to read
IanS
Quote from: ianrs54 on 19 December 2014, 08:50:14 AM
Sorry to small to read
IanS
TOO small to read
I don't know ... FK is away for five minutes ..... :P
I've got the optivisor on, Ian....So I can make that out.
Fred.....Post another pic and get us back on topic !
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 19 December 2014, 07:51:33 AM
What are we trying to do.....Just fill this page up ?
Does this help ?
Cheers - Phil. (I'll try and remember to keep coming back and looking even if no-one's posted, as well.)
Pardon, I didn't quite hear that!
Just trying to help getting to 50 pages - honest
IanS
50 pages?
It'll never happen!
Oh yes it will, Will.
(Well...If we're not going to get around to the panto this year.)
Cheers - Phil
What is 50 pages... if someone could explain that would be great ;)
The Pendraken Forum .... never mind the quality, feeeel the width! :)
50 .... do I win a prize?
NO
Thanks. I think.
The easiest way to get more posts seems to be via nonsense.
Hopefully more photos over the weekend.
Quote from: fred 12df on 19 December 2014, 05:33:49 PM
Hopefully more photos over the weekend.
See Ian ... there IS a prize :)
Now just over 500 views to go...
Friends, Aztecs Romans, countrymen, lend Fred your eyes...
At this rate it will be all over by Christmas :)
Quote from: paulr on 19 December 2014, 07:46:37 PM
Now just over 500 views to go...
Friends, Aztecs Romans, countrymen, lend Fred your eyes...
THE "A" wrod again >:( >:( >:( >:( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Quote from: fred 12df on 19 December 2014, 05:33:49 PM
Thanks. I think.
The easiest way to get more posts seems to be via nonsense.
What exactly are you trying to tell us, Fred? :o
Had a nice big parcel arrive from minibits today - mainly bases. But it did include these to 15mm lizard riders from the Minibits range
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gd82_N7T2Ww/VJV6iH13e1I/AAAAAAAAD_8/3Rt1WsU-Wds/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
I rather like the gangly length of them, so they will find a place in my Lizardman army - perhaps as dino riders?
Look forward to seeing them painted up, Fred.
Cheers - Phil.
As do I!
What paint scheme for these ones then? As the last collective effort produce a rather good (if somewhat un-intended result).
Buzzard or red kite?
Look this reptile ! like the style, the tale and the long face...
about colour? maybe something with spots like this
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/71260008
ML - like the look of the red kite, and will remember it for the next eagle style figures - but not sure how it would work on a running dinosaur.
The spotty look might work...
Last night we played a game - Elves vs Undead, the elves were trying to reach a tower on the far hill to stop the undead necromancer summoning up some giant beasty.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WjvoTrVQBdg/VJWEnGAiMcI/AAAAAAAAD_8/TMpAJzGitOY/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
This is after the first turn - the elven shooting has shot away a lot of the yellow undead infantry unit (Pendraken Egyptian Skeleton Guards) and about half the chariots on the right.
The game went well - but ultimately there was too far for the Elves to go to reach their objective. If we try this scenario again we will play across the table, so there is more space for flanking attacks and less distance to travel to reach the objective
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SMVvc38WT3E/VJWEmvjvkTI/AAAAAAAAD_8/40pjVdSF_j0/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Looking over the backs of my elves - mainly GW figures, but the forest creatures on the right, have a number of Pendraken figures in their midst.
Very nice table and great battle! but... where are the eagles ? :)
In my experience long table battle (short edge as the width of the battlefield) does not work... I do not know why. Maybe the flanking not work there.
Quote from: jchaos79 on 20 December 2014, 04:18:50 PM
Very nice table and great battle! but... where are the eagles ? :)
cropped out the photo on the left - one base is just visible
uuup yes, now I can see it 8)
Very nice
Coo ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Nice!
What are these for?
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qT1tNr9fSuQ/VJcElaY71XI/AAAAAAAAEAU/zRQ3ItD6s1g/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
its for your Dark Elf pole dancers isn't it?
the enemy is spending time going Phwoaaaaar and someone else stabs them in the back....cunning
Rommel's asparagus to stop gliders?
Something to do with Hotel California ? :D
Or poles for philosophers to sit on top of.
Cheers - Phil
Jungle at the bases... something lizard coming I guess
Good ideas (if slightly odd :P ).
Quote from: Techno on 21 December 2014, 07:06:13 PM
Something to do with Hotel California ? :D
Although this one is well above my head...
And we have gone over 20k views.
And by happy coincidence this should be my 2000 post!
Hotel California......By the 'Eagles'......Sorry...... I know....... You've already based those up..... ;)
I'd go with Jchaos....Something concerned with the 'Lizards.'
Cheers - Phil (Congrats on the 2,000th post :-bd)
Quote from: Techno on 21 December 2014, 09:44:56 PM
Hotel California......By the 'Eagles'......
Far to clever for me (or just old... :P )
Of course the bases are for the lizard flyers from last week - with their splinter camo
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-szFyzYjwrJ4/VJdJKbI4oVI/AAAAAAAAEAo/j2jfS0gy2Rg/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Also based up some older figures to help add some weight to lizardmen
Very nice indeed Fred.
Absolutely brilliant
Take care
Andy
So nice!
Stonking, Fred ! :-bd
That's worked particularly well !!
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks chaps.
I'm not sure what colour to go with for the flight stands - they are black at the minute which is quite stark. I have used blue-grey in the past, but not really sure on these which are quite chunky?
:-\ :-\ :-\
Personally, I'd be tempted to leave them black, Fred !
Very pale blue/gray.....possibly ?
Cheers - Phil
I go very pale grey on mine.
black seems good colour seems like a shadow when seen in the distance
I'd normally go with black, and think I would here - going pale grey/blueish white etc might blen into the actual lizard colour too much I think...
Can you paint them clear so they're see through ;)
I'll leave them black, as its the consensus, and it means no extra work.
Quote from: toxicpixie on 22 December 2014, 12:59:43 PM
Can you paint them clear so they're see through ;)
Unfortunately the transparent paint is with the tartan paint, and I can't remember which box I put them in to keep them safe....
I did think about mounting these flyers on brass rod, which is much thinner, but though because of the size it would be hard to get them to fix well enough, especially to the base. Its the same issue with using acrylic rod - its quite hard to create a good 90 degree bond with the base.
2mm magnets are what I use on mine.
To fix the stand to the base, or to the model? Or both?
I've got a few magnets somewhere, so might give this a try.
Both. You'll need to trim the stands a touch for flat surfaces.
Next troop type for the Lizardman army - Salamanders
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r86-bf9HKSk/VJialyawEhI/AAAAAAAAEBI/5sVXPHztfnY/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
These are the now OOP GW warmaster figures - and very nice they are too - with no-one producing anything similar since their demise.
They have painted up very quickly - this is less than an hour's work this evening, washed with dark brown, inside of the sails picked out with dark red, with a touch of purple, then I have made a start on the ribs of the sails with bright orange - this is the fiddliest bit, so I have stopped half way through.
They look sponking! Shane you couldn't find the tartan paint, it would have gone lovely as sail colours ;)
Oooo !...I like those ! 8)
What a vibrant red ! (Or would you call that vermilion ?)
Cheers - Phil
Nice work fella!
We were able to get together for an all day game yesterday - Fantasy, Elves vs Chaos and Sauron armies
Got a couple of figures on the table, mainly GW Warmaster, but quite a few others (including some Pendraken)
The evil forces mass against the Elven line
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZbSHzTkKfRU/VKLlXVHnEUI/AAAAAAAAECE/0BB510n9sZM/s1024/IMG_5863.jpg)
Overhead shots towards the end.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nn1JPODrQ-g/VKLmJu2BxhI/AAAAAAAAEKo/cqXmE73prWk/s1024/IMG_5941.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c8heaSGUI_8/VKLmI98IeGI/AAAAAAAAEKg/RAnZylh6QJE/s1024/IMG_5940.jpg)
Eye eye...
Any shots of the Dark Lord?
If Leon was playing?
Lovely looking game.
Well jel! :)
:-bd
Cheers - Phil
Awesome looking game.
It was a great looking game - showed off 10mm to its best, hordes of troops on the table, and units that look like regiments with loads of spear points bristling in the air.
On my side of the game, it was quite too and fro, with my Cavalry advancing against the lighter Sauron cav, and causing some destruction. But I became rather over-extended and the Sauron players were able to re-direct their second brigade of light cavalry and flyers, and got in some significant flank charges with their giant bats.
In the middle the goblin hordes were chopped up by the elves, but where causing enough attrition to cause problems.
On the other flank the mass ranks of Elven bowmen just shot the Chaos forces to pieces.
More photos then you can ever by bothered to look at can be found here https://picasaweb.google.com/114091746313103705211/Xmas2014BigGame?authuser=0&feat=directlink
Quote from: fred 12df on 31 December 2014, 12:58:40 PM
It was a great looking game - showed off 10mm to its best, hordes of troops on the table, and units that look like regiments with loads of spear points bristling in the air.
More photos then you can ever by bothered to look at can be found here
Worth looking at though, Fred !! :-bd
Stroll on !!
Cheers - Phil
Well done the forces of right and progress, I'm sure it was just a learning exercise and you'll beat the feudal Elvish-oligarchic fascists next time ;)