Hi There,
My name is Richard and I run a small painting business in Gateshead - www.iwantapaintedarmy.co.uk, and I'm also an insurance broker!
I saw Pendraken's models at Border Reiver this year, and have been really tempted to try both Fantasy and Napoleonics in 10mm.
However, I have no idea what rules sets are best for these periods - can anyone offer some suggestions?
Thanks!
RichardTJ
Welcome to the forum
For rules I dont play Napoleonic's so cant really answer that one
There are many Fantasy sets out there, Warmaster is quite good if you can still find a copy. there are many other fantasy sets out there..I know people who like Fantasy Impetus which is free to download. Someone on here is writing a set which we are all looking forward to seeing at some point.
Hi Richard, welcome to the Forum!
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Welcome on board Richard. Warmaster is free to download off Rick Priestley's site and has plenty of updates I believe. Re: Nappies, no idea I'm afraid.
Hi Richard again
I forgot about Kings of War which people play in 10mm as well...lovely system ( apart from the artillery)
Hi Richard ! :-h
Cheers - Phil.
Hi Richard. Welcome to the forum. I too was an insurance (life and pensions) broker for a time back in the days when I had to earn a living.
As far as Nopoleonics are concerned, Dave Brown's General de Brigade is good set - if slightly complicated for a beginner. If you want something easy-peasy just to cut your teeth on you might try these, which you can download for nothing:
http://rulesdepot.net/page63.html (http://rulesdepot.net/page63.html)
Hello Richard, welcome to the forum.
You could always kill two birds with one stone by trying HOTT (Hordes of the things). It's a DBA style fantasy set, which uses small armies and has a lot of lists. Including a Napoleonic semi-historical list, which is about as close as I would like to get to the period, since in all honesty I wouldn't want to touch it with a barge pole! But maybe that's just me, because it seems that all wargamers start with Napoleonics.
Welcome Mr Tj.
I'll give my usual answer which is reaserch and write your own. Never really had much to do with fantasy since my Tunnels and Trolls phase in the '80s (if you can remember it - you were probably there) but do you have to find a rule set that corresponds to your own mental fantasy universe?
In the Conan universe, magic is a rare and dangerous (to its users) thing. Monsters are also few and far between and there aren't really other races such as dwarves, elves and so on. At the other end there's the Lord of the Rings where anyone with a twig can be a wizard and the guy standing next to you at the bar is probably not human - and we all know places like that.
My own personal fantasy universe is ... let's just say it's neither of those things.
Hello there!
Ah, Tunnels and Trolls...
Anyone remember playing Chivalry & Sorcery? We played it at lunchtimes in school but from memory never finished a turn as combat took so long.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry_%26_Sorcery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry_%26_Sorcery)
Quote from: fsn on 10 December 2013, 12:49:26 PM
At the other end there's the Lord of the Rings where anyone with a twig can be a wizard and the guy standing next to you at the bar is probably not human - and we all know places like that.
Actually there are probably only 6 beings in Lord of the Rings who might count as Wizards (the five Istari and Sauron) and they are more properly counted as angels than as wizards and they rarely use magic. Elves are rare, Dwarves more so and Hobbits rare enough to be the stuff of legends to most. Depending on your location most bar patrons will be human or goblinoid. Conan on the other hand seems to be off killing evil wizards and necromancers every second Tuesday :)
As to rules, for quick, easy to play games which don't require much outlay for armies, Hordes of the Things is hard to beat.
Warmaster needs more figures, especially for horde armies like the undead, and is more complex to play but therefore gives more challenge when actually playing. It is a game which reflects it's source material (fantasy fiction) which, it seems to me, is written largely by people who have no concept of military realities. The commonest charge levelled at Warmaster is that it is not "realistic" - an unrealistic game in which the walking dead ride into battle on six tons of armoured, firebreathing, flying death ... no sh*t Sherlock! ;D
Showing my own biases here but I don't like Kings of War for the same reason I don't like Warhammer - in my entirely unimportant opinion, neither of them can decide if they are big battle or skirmish rules and so I find those games irritating and unsatisfying. However, your mileage may vary and you may love them for all the reasons I don't - don't let my idiosyncrasies put you off!
On the question of Napoleonic vs Fantasy. As a beginner, a genre where no one can go "The 5th Khemrian Guards Infantry Regiment wore silver buttons and had green facings by that period" has much to recommend it so I'd plump for Fantasy but again that's just me.
Last, but by no means least, welcome to the
mad house ... forum. Enjoy your stay whatever you decide.
Quote from: Steve J on 10 December 2013, 02:03:53 PM
Ah, Tunnels and Trolls...
Anyone remember playing Chivalry & Sorcery? We played it at lunchtimes in school but from memory never finished a turn as combat took so long.
Empire of the Petal Throne, SPI's Dragonquest (still my favourite RPG system), Harnquest, Runequest, Fantasy Hero, GURPS Fantasy, Amber diceless, Tunnels and Trolls, Chivalry and Sorcery, Dungeons and Dragons, Powers and Perils - played them all and GM'd many of them.
The only one I never really got into was "Architects and Accountants" or "First Life" as it is sometimes known - the first and only release in the Real World(TM) series ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Steve J on 10 December 2013, 02:03:53 PM
Anyone remember playing Chivalry & Sorcery? W
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry_%26_Sorcery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry_%26_Sorcery)
Please dont mention that game...It will bring my nervous rash out again
Ok then *deep breath* Runquest, D&D AD&D, T&T Chivalry and Sorcery, MERP, Rolemaster, Pendragon GURPS,Pallidium Warhammer RPG, plau many many more
Pendragon I think has been my favouite although AD&D for longevity still is up there
My pick for Napoleonics has to be Ganesha Games' Song of Drums and Shakos Large Battles, gives a fairly good game in a shortish period of time, plus its cheap. Not only that but with the standard Battalion being only 12 guys and the Cavalry Regiments only being six guys you dont have to be looking at that many painted before getting a game in.
Ah yes, also played MERP, Ars Magica and the Warmammer RPG. So many games, so little ...memory!
Loved AD&D, Warhammer 1-3rd in the eighties. Tried it again at the end of the nineties, but codex creep did my head in!
My 10mm fantasy uses a modified Hail Caesar...
Hi Richard
Welcome
For fantasy Hordes of the Things to start. You can then expand to Warmaster. At our club we don't bother with the spells much in warmaster as it gives a good game without it. the only thing is some armies ie Undead actually need the spells to be a viable army.
I only play Nappys occasionally. the club uses the orriginal Shako rules, or General de Brigade. I miuch prefer General de Brigade, but I am no expert, just enjoy the game more.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 10 December 2013, 07:09:39 PM
Loved AD&D, Warhammer 1-3rd in the eighties. Tried it again at the end of the nineties, but codex creep did my head in!
My 10mm fantasy uses a modified Hail Caesar...
There is a Hail Caesar fantasy yahoo group
Welcome Richard :-h
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions!
I have the free download HOTT but that doesn't include army lists as far as I can see so not sure how to actually construct an army!
I've downloaded Fusilier for the Napoleonics so will give them a bash - Now I just need to order some models.
Any help on finding Army Lists for HOTT would be appreciated - really fancy doing some Centaurs!
Hi Richard,
Welcome aboard.... a tad late but hey ho :-[
I found the same with HOTT ..couldn't find the lists either which is why I stuck to warmaster as I already had a couple of armies.
There are these
http://www.byzant.demon.co.uk/HOTT%20Revision%20Web.htm
Have you tried the HOTT yahoo group?
I thought the whole point of HOTT was you made your own lists friom the points values for the elements? 24 army points iirc - which I probably don't, must be about a dozen years since I last played a game of HOTT.
I had a Dragon army, a Giant army and an Ent army among others - most of which have since been co-opted into my Warmaster armies.
Personally I hated it, but I didnt like DBA either
Least worst options for me - it was HOTT or Warhammer and DBA or 6th Edition. Small cheap armies, quick games played in a small area. Suited the cash, time and space available.
I think I was playing Fantasy Warriors around that time
Hi and welcome
take care
andy
There is also this site :-
http://meadhall.org.uk/listlist.htm
Excellent resource
Quote from: Fenton on 10 December 2013, 09:26:50 PM
There is a Hail Caesar fantasy yahoo group
Fenton - could you point me at that un.
btw HI
IanS