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Title: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: shawnt63 on 05 December 2013, 03:08:45 AM
Great War Spearhead II is on sale at 15 percent off until 25 December.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/shawn-taylor/great-war-spearhead-ii/paperback/product-21191674.html
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: Shecky on 05 December 2013, 05:57:21 AM
I keep meaning to purchase the rules. Perhaps now is as good a time as any...
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: Shecky on 07 December 2013, 03:38:22 AM
And done...
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: richinq on 07 December 2013, 12:34:48 PM
I have been thinking of getting these rules already have square bashing Ver 2,  looking for more info on the rules before i get them.
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: Fenton on 07 December 2013, 12:38:02 PM
I have a copy...they play like WW2 spearhead, but with more constraint on your units of what they can do , the trench warfare is well done with planning the attack and artillery bombardments etc

They are set up for playing BIG games with each stand representing a company

I would say they are more detailed than Square bashing though I have only played a couple of games of it

worth the money if you ask me but you will need quite a few stands for it

Looking at the lists a British Army Division 1914 would have about 50 stands with some additional assets on top of that
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: richinq on 07 December 2013, 12:40:09 PM
cheers for the info
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: Wulf on 07 December 2013, 12:42:46 PM
If only there would be a Spearhead II some day...
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: fred. on 07 December 2013, 01:12:57 PM
I'd been thinking about these for big WWI battles - so the 15% off was just the push needed.

Ordered it at the start of the week, and it has arrived today, which is good.
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: richinq on 07 December 2013, 07:12:11 PM
ordered my copy today.

what size bases are best for 10mm?

What size table ?

Many Thanks

Rich.
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: Fenton on 07 December 2013, 07:18:58 PM
base sizes are 30x30  Table size will be to do with the size of the game but I would say a minimum of 6x4 would be needed
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: Shecky on 07 December 2013, 07:40:32 PM
Great to know that the base sizes are compatible with Square Bashing. I was looking at my early war British and French last night wondering how I should base them. When the weather clears here I will get them primed and ready for painting.
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: richinq on 07 December 2013, 07:55:55 PM
Looking at getting 1914 French and German early next year.

got loads of WW2 just arrived and ordered more today.  need to get them all painted over xmas.
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: shawnt63 on 07 December 2013, 11:02:52 PM
H fellas, I see that Fenton has answered most of the questions already. I just want to add on to the table size. You can play anything from 2 x 2 to - well massive. We played on a 22 x 7 down in NZ a few years ago and next year we will be on a table roughly 100 feet long :)
For the Trench warfare games you basically need 2 feet width for every deployed defending Regiment/Brigade. So for example playing Vimy the table is 8 feet long as there were four regiments deployed along the Canadian Corps front (actually 5 but only 1 btln from two of the regiments.) So you can have an attacking division against a defending Regiment/Brigade on a 2 foot wide front or 4 feet if the defender puts on two defending regiments.

Shawn
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: fred. on 08 December 2013, 07:13:05 PM

With 10mm figures what size bases should you use for bigger models (such as tanks). Most will fit on 30mm width bases, but some will need a lot more depth.

Will 30mm by 50mm bases work OK, or would square ones be better?

Lots of bases to make a division.
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: shawnt63 on 08 December 2013, 07:52:43 PM
Fred you can make the depth - however, the deeper the base the more chance of being hit by artillery 1 1/4 x 1 1/4 or 30mm x 30mm works for infantry but as with 15mm or 25/28mm figs you could always double the base size to accommodate the larger model or simple extend the depth by 5 mm to protect the model. It is aesthetically more pleasing to keep everything square, but that doesn't mean you couldn't keep a 30mm front on an a 40 or 50mm depth - however as mentioned earlier I would likely just double the size of the base like with the 15mm stuff.

Hope that answers the question - and yes there are a lot of bases for a division :) Early war French you would need 48 Infantry Bases 16 HMG bases, 4 RHQs, 1 Div HQ and 9 x 75mm bases. Along with 1 cavalry and 1 engineer bases. More than double that for a Corps :)

If you are from the UK maybe you can make it down to Dorman in Aug 14 to see the big refight of the Marne. We will need about 30 players :)
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: fred. on 08 December 2013, 09:19:54 PM
Thanks Shawn.

Yes, its lots of bases nearly 80 for a division - I have just popped an order in with Leon for several bags of 30x30. I'm a bit away from needing to base tanks yet, so will get a few games in before then, and decide whether to go with slightly longer to fit the tanks, or bigger square bases.

Where is Dorman? Not heard of it before (nor found it on google). The Marne battle sounds good, might have to pencil it into my Summer plans
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: ronan on 08 December 2013, 09:40:47 PM
Quote from: fred    12df on 08 December 2013, 09:19:54 PM
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Where is Dorman? Not heard of it before (nor found it on google). The Marne battle sounds good, might have to pencil it into my Summer plans

Was it DormanS  ?
https://www.google.fr/maps/preview#!q=dormans&data=!1m4!1m3!1d49888!2d3.644687!3d49.0635815!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47e91c24a3a01ef5%3A0xad4763170ce0a15e!3m8!1m3!1d43394!2d-1.5568724!3d47.1748991!3m2!1i1024!2i768!4f13.1!4m2!3d49.07464!4d3.638479 (https://www.google.fr/maps/preview#!q=dormans&data=!1m4!1m3!1d49888!2d3.644687!3d49.0635815!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47e91c24a3a01ef5%3A0xad4763170ce0a15e!3m8!1m3!1d43394!2d-1.5568724!3d47.1748991!3m2!1i1024!2i768!4f13.1!4m2!3d49.07464!4d3.638479)
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: shawnt63 on 08 December 2013, 09:42:39 PM
Yes sorry Dormans is correct. It was the pivot point where the BEF and French started to push back the Germans in 1914 to unhinge the line and cause the race to the sea. It is the spot where the French have their major monument to the battle of the Marne.
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: fred. on 08 December 2013, 10:25:25 PM
Ah, OK, that explains why I didn't recognise the place name, its in France.
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: richinq on 09 December 2013, 09:36:12 PM
Just watched the history channel the Martian War 1913 - 1917,  how easy would it be to add in Martian tripods into great war spearhead?

Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: Fenton on 09 December 2013, 09:37:22 PM
Well they need to be some sort of tank I presume just a matter of giving them some stats
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: Ithoriel on 09 December 2013, 09:40:00 PM
Don't be silly, "The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one ...."

Is there a "singing out of tune" icon??

Coat please!
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: shawnt63 on 09 December 2013, 10:12:06 PM
Lol that would be some battle. Martians and massed Wwi armies. I watched a bit myself. Interesting sci fi option.
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: richinq on 09 December 2013, 10:32:13 PM
was going to wait to after xmas before ordering ww1 figures. 

but just ordered ww1 french early war army pack,  as thats the main army i want to collect for historical ww1.  added some A/T guns and tanks to fight the 1 * Large tripod and 2 small tripods.

Rich.
Title: Re: Great War Spearhead II Holiday Sale
Post by: shawnt63 on 18 December 2013, 03:32:46 PM
Six days remaining for the GWSH II Holiday sale :)