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Title: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Sandinista on 31 October 2013, 12:20:15 PM
Well? Whatcha making us Leon  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 31 October 2013, 12:34:20 PM
You already have Euopeans of the appropriate period, Then there's themselves, you can use the Chinese infantry as Chinese. They also got involved in the Crusades, so various Arab and Turkish figures can be used for the Muslim armies which defeated them.

IanS
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Shedman on 31 October 2013, 01:01:23 PM
I intend to use them against other Mongols
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Danyo on 31 October 2013, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: Shedman on 31 October 2013, 01:01:23 PM
I intend to use them against other Mongols


That would be rather appropriate! Haha
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Sandinista on 31 October 2013, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 31 October 2013, 12:34:20 PM
You already have Euopeans of the appropriate period, Then there's themselves, you can use the Chinese infantry as Chinese. They also got involved in the Crusades, so various Arab and Turkish figures can be used for the Muslim armies which defeated them.

IanS

Not much really suitable for the Russians or saracens
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Last Hussar on 31 October 2013, 07:06:52 PM
Stop sodding about with niche stuff, and expand best sellers?
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Sandinista on 31 October 2013, 09:02:30 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 31 October 2013, 07:06:52 PM
Stop sodding about with niche stuff, and expand best sellers?

These will be best sellers   :P
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 31 October 2013, 10:12:34 PM
Hi

Lets not forget the Mongol Invasion of Japan. Well you could sort of pressgang the Samurai to leave the comfy Renaissance and slog it out in the Middle Ages  :D.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Luddite on 31 October 2013, 11:21:44 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 31 October 2013, 12:34:20 PM
the Muslim armies which defeated them.


No Muslim army ever defeated the Mongols.

Ain Jalut doesn't count as it was a small Mongol rearguard force mixed with Georgian and Cilician allies.

;)

the main enemy has to be the Sung Chinese surely?



Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Danyo on 01 November 2013, 02:00:24 AM
Quote from: Luddite on 31 October 2013, 11:21:44 PM


the main enemy has to be the Sung Chinese surely?




I agree, whenever I think of mongols the Chinese are the first to pop into my head as their enemies. Or vise versa. Hell, the Chinese built a rather famous wall to stop the mongols....


Sometime down the line I'm guessing chinese will be added to pendraken range.
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 November 2013, 03:20:31 AM
They built the famous wall after kicking the Mongols out.
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 November 2013, 08:36:31 AM
I thought the Mongols ignored the wall, went round it, and caused more trouble!

They do in the Conn Iggulden books...
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Danyo on 01 November 2013, 08:56:56 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 November 2013, 03:20:31 AM
They built the famous wall after kicking the Mongols out.

So stopping further invasion?

And mad lemmey I didn't know they did that! Haha
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 November 2013, 01:20:20 PM
"the famous wall" is actually a series of ever lengthening walls built over a long period and regularly extended when an enemy found a way round the end.
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Fenton on 01 November 2013, 01:39:59 PM
I think there plenty of older walls there as well, not just earth mounds going back about a thousand years or more  if memory serves correctly
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Leon on 04 November 2013, 01:02:13 AM
We'll see how the Mongols go first, and then make a decision a bit further down the line.  We need to spend some time on the already scheduled items for a while, and try not to get sidetracked on anything new, so the Ancients, Napoleonics and WW1 are now the priorities for the foreseeable.  If the Mongols sell well, then we can look at what to do next.  I'll also have to check with Clib, as I think Chinese and new Samurai ranges were something he was interested in doing at some point.

8)
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Dave Fielder on 29 November 2013, 12:57:41 PM
So will I be using the Imperial Guard against my Mongols then?  :-\

BTW .. will they (the Mongols) be out for the Santa run?
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Leon on 29 November 2013, 07:50:57 PM
Quote from: Dave Fielder on 29 November 2013, 12:57:41 PM
BTW .. will they (the Mongols) be out for the Santa run?

I'm still hoping so, the master castings are pretty much all done, so it's into the moulding queue now.  We've got quite a few on for other companies, but we'll be shoehorning ours in where possible.

8)
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Subedai on 29 November 2013, 07:58:15 PM
As far as I am aware, no-one makes medieval Russians in 10mm so if any range is done it should be them. Although from the same period their costumes are completely different to the mainstream of European medieval knighthood ie as in western Europe. There you have a right old mish-mash of styles with chain mail alongside hardened leather next to padded or quilted jacks, so you have great variety. But the distinguishing marks are the helmets, tall and pointed similar to the popular perception of Saracens, or, the precursor of the wide-brimmed metal helmet and even full face covering armour as used by the Kipchak/Cuman/Kangli/polovtsi etc. The influence of Russia also extended to some degree into Poland which means that you can mix those with current medieval figures with round or heater shields.  Some existing Mongol sculpts can be used for polovtsi and for more variety, some of the Norse and Saxon range make reasonable levies.
Kharizmians can be made from using the existing Arab range.
Japanese and Sung Chinese are alternatives but personally, I think Russians would give you more options.
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Sandinista on 30 November 2013, 12:08:40 AM
Quote from: Subedai on 29 November 2013, 07:58:15 PM
Russians would give you more options.

:-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Chad on 12 December 2013, 10:19:23 PM
For the prospective members of the army of
the Great Khan, Helion have the following book
advertised:

Defending Heaven: China's Mongol Wars 1209-1370

Chad
Title: Re: Opponents for Mongols
Post by: Dave Fielder on 10 January 2014, 11:40:51 PM
Leon could make a wall, then the Mongols will have an opponent.