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Title: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Nosher on 30 October 2013, 07:18:49 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: get2grips on 30 October 2013, 07:43:06 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

Joint expedition with the Italians :D
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Hecoma on 30 October 2013, 11:51:40 PM
 ;D ;D  :-bd


(http://www.historyinanhour.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Singapore-surrender.jpg)

Are they french or italians ? the picture is blurred and I can't identify clearly the helmet


;) ;)

Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: get2grips on 31 October 2013, 07:32:06 AM
Quote from: Hecoma on 30 October 2013, 11:51:40 PM

(http://www.historyinanhour.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Singapore-surrender.jpg)

Are they french or italians ? the picture is blurred and I can't identify clearly the helmet


British with Japanese POWs by the looks ;)
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 31 October 2013, 08:38:47 AM
Think the Frenchman was trying to get back at us.....

Stamp it out, NOW

IanS  :D
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 October 2013, 08:42:56 AM
A bas l'Anglaise! Vive la France!
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Hertsblue on 31 October 2013, 08:47:56 AM
Two things I just can't stand - xenophobia and foreigners.  ;)
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Fenton on 31 October 2013, 08:51:35 AM
Personally I think it just jealousy...
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Hecoma on 31 October 2013, 09:08:43 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 31 October 2013, 08:47:56 AM
Two things I just can't stand - xenophobia and foreigners.  ;)

;D ;D
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Techno on 31 October 2013, 10:44:10 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 31 October 2013, 08:47:56 AM
Two things I just can't stand - xenophobia and foreigners.  ;)

Very good Ray...Must be an oldie, but it's new to me ! ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 October 2013, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: Techno on 31 October 2013, 10:44:10 AM
Very good Ray...Must be an oldie, but it's new to me ! ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil

First heard a version from an American back in '76 when I was at uni though her version was "Only two things I can't stand ... bigots and n**gers!"

Cultural nuances
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 31 October 2013, 12:25:51 PM
I'm not bigoted or xenophobic - I HATE EVERYONE, Especially the WELSH.

IanS

PS - not even the French LIKE the French.  :d
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Techno on 31 October 2013, 12:30:52 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 31 October 2013, 12:25:51 PM
I HATE EVERYONE, Especially the WELSH.
IanS

I'm staggered....I've never noticed that before. :-*
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: fsn on 31 October 2013, 12:53:22 PM
As a Shetlander, I hate the Orcadians. As a Scotsman I hate the English. As a Briton I hate the French. As a European I hate the Americans, and there everyone agrees with me.

What we need is an external threat (aka alien invasion, or better still Zombie apocalypse) to bring the world together. 
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: howayman on 31 October 2013, 05:15:49 PM
In my experience the French are just Englishmen with a bad attitude.  ;)
(should that statement be in the bar fight section?)
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Hecoma on 31 October 2013, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: howayman on 31 October 2013, 05:15:49 PM
In my experience the French are just Englishmen with a bad attitude.  ;)

Excellent  ;D

What could I do to improve ?
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Sandinista on 31 October 2013, 06:15:42 PM
Singapore is always glossed over when surrender is mentioned
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Orcs on 31 October 2013, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: howayman on 31 October 2013, 05:15:49 PM
In my experience the French are just Englishmen with a bad attitude.  ;)
(should that statement be in the bar fight section?)

Frenchmen smell of of Garlic
Englishmen smell of Elderberries.
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: get2grips on 31 October 2013, 06:49:48 PM
Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D885N2OMcA  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Matt J on 31 October 2013, 06:55:14 PM
QuoteEnglishmen smell of Elderberries.

and their mothers are hamsters
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: get2grips on 31 October 2013, 07:06:36 PM
Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 31 October 2013, 06:55:14 PM
and their mothers are hamsters

I fart in your general direction :P :P :P
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Techno on 31 October 2013, 07:18:12 PM
I was blaming one of the dogs !  ;)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Fenton on 31 October 2013, 07:22:11 PM
Quote from: Sandinista on 31 October 2013, 06:15:42 PM
Singapore is always glossed over when surrender is mentioned

Losing the Hundred Years War is often overlooked as well
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 November 2013, 12:01:47 AM
And Dunkirk. And selling out the Czechs. And the retreat from Kabul. Yorktown. The first Boer War. Having to be rescued by the Prussians at Waterloo. Having to be rescued by the French at Inkermann. And the fact that English armies lost the English Civil War, the Baron's Wars, the Wars of the Roses, Hastings....
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Sandinista on 01 November 2013, 07:34:14 AM
also losing to the Dutch and having their leader made king
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Orcs on 01 November 2013, 08:23:15 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 November 2013, 12:01:47 AM
And Dunkirk. And selling out the Czechs. And the retreat from Kabul. Yorktown. The first Boer War. Having to be rescued by the Prussians at Waterloo. Having to be rescued by the French at Inkermann. And the fact that English armies lost the English Civil War, the Baron's Wars, the Wars of the Roses, Hastings....

So we lost a few battles  :( - but we did end up owning 2/3rds of the world  :D. 

At least we were on time for the various wars - unlike the Americans :d

Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: get2grips on 01 November 2013, 09:39:49 AM
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 01 November 2013, 08:23:15 AM
So we lost a few battles  :( - but we did end up owning 2/3rds of the world  :D. 

At least we were on time for the various wars - unlike the Americans :d



Polite cough...1 third ;)
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 November 2013, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 01 November 2013, 08:23:15 AM
we did end up owning 2/3rds of the world  :D. 

At least we were on time for the various wars...


"Peace for our time." And when that didn't work they belatedly joined in. "On time" my tonsils!

If you really own something, chances are you've still got it a few years later.
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Orcs on 01 November 2013, 10:40:46 AM
Quote from: get2grips on 01 November 2013, 09:39:49 AM
Polite cough...1 third ;)
Correctrion accepted if thats the land mass, but I was including most of the seas and Oceans as well, as we ruled them as well

Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 November 2013, 10:29:00 AM
If you really own something, chances are you've still got it a few years later.

We were benevolent and gave it as a gift to our Colonials :)
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 01 November 2013, 10:45:13 AM
Well most of them.

IanS
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: get2grips on 01 November 2013, 02:49:26 PM
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 01 November 2013, 10:40:46 AM

We were benevolent and gave it as a gift to our Colonials :)

:-\  Nope...think the second world war did for us...

Bankrupt;
Lost an Empire;
Rationing;
Bomb damaged cities;
Nearly 500 000 casualties.

And the pride of knowing we stood, ALONE (in the beginning), against THE most evil regime the world has ever seen.
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Sandinista on 01 November 2013, 04:28:32 PM
Alone?
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Fenton on 01 November 2013, 04:38:31 PM
Dont forget the 57% increase in the crime rate  ;)
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: fsn on 01 November 2013, 04:39:47 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 November 2013, 12:01:47 AM
And Dunkirk. And selling out the Czechs. And the retreat from Kabul. Yorktown. The first Boer War. Having to be rescued by the Prussians at Waterloo. Having to be rescued by the French at Inkermann. And the fact that English armies lost the English Civil War, the Baron's Wars, the Wars of the Roses, Hastings....

France 1940 was a very small British army being evacuated when a very big French army collapsed. The army at Waterloo was a allied one - more Germans than British (even a big chunk of the "British" army was Kings German Legion) and Wellington was holding until the Prussians could link up.  

Quote from: Sandinista on 01 November 2013, 07:34:14 AM
also losing to the Dutch and having their leader made king
Anything's better than a Catholic. I think Willy 3 was more of an invitee than a proper conqueror. His wife, after all was in line of succession.
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: get2grips on 01 November 2013, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: Sandinista on 01 November 2013, 04:28:32 PM
Alone?

As a nation, at that time, yes!  This is not to belittle the efforts of thousands of partizans and Nazi resistors.
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: fsn on 01 November 2013, 04:55:05 PM
Ah! The Resistance!

Why do we never speak of the collaborators?
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Orcs on 01 November 2013, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: fsn on 01 November 2013, 04:55:05 PM
Ah! The Resistance!

Why do we never speak of the collaborators?

I watched a documentary the other day and apparently in Northern France in 1940/41 only 1% of the French resisted in any way.

This however is not what i have found - All the French Totty I have tried to conquer have resisted 100%.  ;D

Although there was a quite attractive waitress in Normandy this year who did give me extra helpings of Whipped Cream,  or Chantilly Plus was what she actually said.    ;D ;D
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: clibinarium on 01 November 2013, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: fsn on 01 November 2013, 04:39:47 PM

Anything's better than a Catholic. I think Willy 3 was more of an invitee than a proper conqueror. His wife, after all was in line of succession.

?
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Fenton on 01 November 2013, 05:14:42 PM
Quote from: fsn on 01 November 2013, 04:55:05 PM
Ah! The Resistance!

Why do we never speak of the collaborators?

I have just been reading about the British Free Corps...Interesting stuff
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 November 2013, 05:18:26 PM
Alone ... so Australia, Canada, India, etc were just no-account colonials not worth mentioning!??

Pretty much every nation has had it's up and it's downs on the world stage. It's moments of heroism and it's times of ignominy.

"Patriotism is, fundamentally, a conviction that a particular country is the best in the world because you were born in it...." ― George Bernard Shaw  
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: get2grips on 01 November 2013, 05:19:18 PM
Quote from: fsn on 01 November 2013, 04:55:05 PM
Ah! The Resistance!

Why do we never speak of the collaborators?

Because I think, any single one of us could become one:  if you're scared for your family, if you were hungry, if you fell in love.  In fact, any of the thousands of things that make us human, could make us a callaborator.

I know, for a fact, I don't have what it would take to resist: I couldn't risk my my wife and boy.  One step from here to callaboration.

Dear lord this is getting dark :(
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: get2grips on 01 November 2013, 05:20:36 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 01 November 2013, 05:18:26 PM
Alone ... so Australia, Canada, India, etc were just no-account colonials not worth mentioning!??


No, to qualify, I meant at first.  I realise many countries fought against the Nazis.  Sorry if I was unclear ;)
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Sandinista on 01 November 2013, 05:35:21 PM
Unclear and wrong
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 November 2013, 05:35:54 PM
At first we were allied with Poland, France, Norway, Belgium, Holland and the Commonwealth. As many of these countries fell a surprising number of their young men and women made their way to the UK to continue the fight.

We were never truly alone.

To try and lighten the mood ... anyone ever gamed the Brazilian Expeditionary Force that fought in Italy from September '44 to May '45? 27,500 men strong and yet I'd never come across mention of it until this afternoon.
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Fenton on 01 November 2013, 05:37:13 PM
I have heard of them...But that is all
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: fsn on 01 November 2013, 05:49:58 PM
Quote from: clibinarium on 01 November 2013, 05:12:48 PM
?

William III of England was married to Mary, daughter of James. James was a Catholic and not tremendously popular having had to deal with a couple of rebellions during his reign. William wrote to the people of England saying "I don't like Catholics" (I paraphrase) and a group called The Magnificent Seven (or something) said "well come over here and sort out this James chappie." When Willy arrived, the English basically disintegrated. No big battle, Jimmy took to his heels and fled (eventually) to France.  

To put it in context, James II would have been played by Basil Rathbone, William II by Errol Flynn and Mary by Olivia de Havilland.  
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Fenton on 01 November 2013, 05:54:46 PM
I think Clib knows all about King Billy
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: fsn on 01 November 2013, 05:57:45 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 01 November 2013, 05:35:54 PM
To try and lighten the mood ... anyone ever gamed the Brazilian Expeditionary Force that fought in Italy from September '44 to May '45? 27,500 men strong and yet I'd never come across mention of it until this afternoon.

I first came across them in "The Allied Forces in Italy 1943-45" by Guido Rosignoli, but there is a decent Osprey. Lovely little force with basically US kit. There was also an air contingent flying P47s.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brazilian-Expeditionary-Force-World-Men-at-arms/dp/1849084831/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383328468&sr=8-1&keywords=brazilian+expeditionary (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brazilian-Expeditionary-Force-World-Men-at-arms/dp/1849084831/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383328468&sr=8-1&keywords=brazilian+expeditionary)
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 November 2013, 06:15:00 PM
There is a good history on the Flames site called 'The Cobra is Smoking'. A reference to the chances of the Brazilians actually fighting...
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: clibinarium on 01 November 2013, 06:22:06 PM
I'm currently sculpting Grand Alliance ranges in two different scales; as Fenton rightly points out I am familiar with Good King Billy. The question mark relates to Anything's better than a Catholic.
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: Matt J on 01 November 2013, 06:33:43 PM
I'm assuming FSN is refering to the feeling of the English parliament at the time and not his own views
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: fsn on 01 November 2013, 07:02:44 PM
I am. Apologies for any confusion.

Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: clibinarium on 02 November 2013, 12:54:00 AM
It was a bit ambiguous because the rest of the post was in the past tense, save that statement which was in the present tense.
But fair enough.
Title: Re: The French claim sovereignty over the Moon
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 November 2013, 03:55:01 AM
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. One of Johnson's more defensible opinions.