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Title: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: Druzhina on 24 October 2013, 10:25:11 AM
Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries

Illustrations of a Welshman from a 13th century Latin text of The Laws of Hywel Dda Peniarth 28 (http://warfare2.netai.net/Medieval/Hywel_Dda-Peniarth_28-6v.htm)
Illustrations of Welsh soldiers from Littere Wallie, in Liber A in the Public Record Office (http://warfare2.netai.net/Medieval/Chapter_House-Liber_A.htm)
Illustrations of Welshmen from a 14th century Welsh text of The Laws of Hywel Dda NLW MS. 20143A (http://warfare2.netai.net/Medieval/Hywel_Dda-NLW-MS-20143A.htm)
A Welsh Archer & Spearman by Ian Heath, based on Littere Wallie in Chapter House Liber A & The Laws of Hywel Dda (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval2/Feudal-46-47-Welsh_Infantry.htm)
A Welsh Spearman by Ian Heath, based on Littere Wallie in Chapter House Liber A (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval/Middle_Ages_1-24-Welsh.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11114&d=1382608507)
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Illustrations of a Welshman from a 13th century Latin text of The Laws of Hywel Dda Peniarth 28 (http://warfare.likamva.in/Medieval/Hywel_Dda-Peniarth_28-6v.htm)
Illustrations of Welsh soldiers from Littere Wallie, in Liber A in the Public Record Office (http://warfare.likamva.in/Medieval/Chapter_House-Liber_A.htm)
Illustrations of Welshmen from a 14th century Welsh text of The Laws of Hywel Dda NLW MS. 20143A (http://warfare.likamva.in/Medieval/Hywel_Dda-NLW-MS-20143A.htm)
A Welsh Archer & Spearman by Ian Heath, based on Littere Wallie in Chapter House Liber A & The Laws of Hywel Dda (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval2/Feudal-46-47-Welsh_Infantry.htm)
A Welsh Spearman by Ian Heath, based on Littere Wallie in Chapter House Liber A (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval/Middle_Ages_1-24-Welsh.htm)

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare.atwebpages.com/index.htm)
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 October 2013, 10:27:53 AM
Why are Welsh spears always shown with only one shoe?  :-\
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: OldenBUA on 24 October 2013, 11:01:03 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 24 October 2013, 10:27:53 AM
Why are Welsh spears always shown with only one shoe?  :-\

One foot bare for better grip in muddy terrain is what I have read.
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: Malbork on 24 October 2013, 11:04:15 AM
Yesp, read that too but can't remember where :-\
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: Techno on 24 October 2013, 12:21:48 PM
Oh dear....My ancient countrymen weren't very good artists were they ?
Fascinating though ! :)

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 October 2013, 02:57:18 PM
Hopefully the sculpt better than they draw!  ;)
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: fsn on 24 October 2013, 03:44:39 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 24 October 2013, 10:27:53 AM
Why are Welsh spears always shown with only one shoe?  :-\

Possibly ...

They didn't have time to steal the other one.
They've only got one sock.
Welsh cobblers have not managed the intricacies of the left foot.
A spear only needs one shoe - it's a pole.
They threw one at a comrade as a protest about Welsh foreign wars.
Verrucas.
They only need to count up to 15.
They keep the other one for best.
Welsh marching goes "shoe ... foot ... shoe ... foot"
They've only learned to tie up the right lace.
Some Welsh words can only be pronounced by placing a bare foot in mud.
A comrade only threw one at them whilst protesting about Welsh foreign wars.

or more probably ...

They have to protect the foot they use to score conversions against England.
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: Ithoriel on 24 October 2013, 09:21:12 PM
... they're WAZOCs and zombies ate the other one?
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: Druzhina on 24 October 2013, 11:35:19 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 24 October 2013, 10:27:53 AM
Why are Welsh spears always shown with only one shoe?  :-\

Apparently the illustrations in 'Liber A' (drawn by an Englishman) are the only ones that show Welsh with one shoe. Illustrations in Welsh manuscripts are rare.
It is the Landsknechts that are well known for wearing one shoe in battle for better grip on slippery ground.

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare2.netai.net/index.htm)
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: Techno on 25 October 2013, 07:46:05 AM
Useful info D ! Ta !
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: Matt J on 25 October 2013, 08:23:45 AM
QuoteInsert Quote

... they're WAZOCs and zombies ate the other one?

;D  ;)
Title: Re: Welsh Infantry 12th-14th centuries
Post by: fsn on 25 October 2013, 04:24:56 PM
If they have only one shoe then when confronted by slippery ground, don't they just go into a spin?