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Title: Sergeant-at-Arms c. 1300
Post by: Druzhina on 26 September 2013, 10:31:56 AM
Ian Heath based his Sergeant-at-Arms (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval2/Feudal-41-Sergeant-at-Arms-13C.htm) on a manuscript of c. 1300 at the time of Louis IX.
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=10892&d=1380189651)

Could his source be 'Jonathan killing Philistines and eating honey' in The Queen Mary Psalter (http://warfare.likamva.in/Medieval/Queen_Mary_Psalter-f51.htm) where there are 3 figures on the right, one of whom has a mace, or some other source?

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare2.netai.net/index.htm)
Title: Re: Sergeant-at-Arms c. 1300
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 September 2013, 10:37:49 AM
Nice find sir.
Title: Re: Sergeant-at-Arms c. 1300
Post by: Druzhina on 07 May 2014, 07:59:04 AM
I have found a better candidate as the source of Ian Heath's Sergeant-at-Arms (http://warfare2.likamva.in/WRG/Feudal-41-Sergeant-at-Arms-13C.htm)

(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=12873&d=1399447896)
In an illumination of Louis IX setting out on the Seventh Crusade in a Chroniques de France ou de St Denis (http://warfare2.netai.net/14/Chroniques_de_France-1332-50-404v.htm) are 3 horsemen that fit the description. This is dated after 1332 & before 1350, but if this is not the source then it would be a similar scene in another Chroniques de France ou de St Denis manuscript.

MIRROR SITE
British Library MS Royal 16 G VI -  Chroniques de France ou de St Denis (http://warfare.likamva.in/14/Chroniques_de_France-1332-50-404v.htm)

See also a similar figure in the Cantigas de Santa Maria representing a French magistrate's enforcer. (http://warfare2.netai.net/Cantiga/Cantigas_de_Santa_Maria-175-4.htm)

Druzhina
14th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare2.netai.net/14C.htm)
Title: Re: Sergeant-at-Arms c. 1300
Post by: Techno on 07 May 2014, 10:04:16 AM
 8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Sergeant-at-Arms c. 1300
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 May 2014, 10:09:33 AM
He's carrying a rattle!
Title: Re: Sergeant-at-Arms c. 1300
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 May 2014, 11:14:10 AM
LOL!  ;D