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Title: Metal discoloration question
Post by: old smokie on 20 September 2013, 01:28:53 PM
I have a pile of unpainted lead, I have noticed today that a lot of the figures and vehicles are going a yellow/brown colour ?, it's not just the Pendaraken stuff I have but other makes as well,  they are in the plastic re-sealable bags and was wondering if its the bags that are causing the discoloration and does this affect the metal itself

any help appreciated
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: Leon on 20 September 2013, 01:46:17 PM
It shouldn't affect the metal as far as I know, at least not on our stuff.  The other companies may use different grades of metal though? 

We do get the odd pack which comes out of the mould a different colour, which is due to the different rubbers we use.  We had a batch a few years ago which made the figures quite yellow when they came out.  None of it should affect the quality of the castings.

8)
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: Techno on 20 September 2013, 01:55:21 PM
It's possible that one of the metals in the 'mix' has oxidized very slightly Smokie......Shouldn't affect the model once there's an undercoat on though.
I've seen a very fine dusting of an oxide on very old models that had been kept outside in a rather damp shed..(" Lead Rot")..But even that cleaned off perfectly well.

Cheers - Phil;.
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: Fenton on 20 September 2013, 01:59:58 PM
Could be condensation in the bag causing it
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: sebigboss79 on 20 September 2013, 02:56:13 PM
Yep to my foreposters.

Have not had the issue with Pendraken stuff. Sniff at the model. If it smells "rotten" or damp then it is beginning to oxidize or even showing signs of lead rot.

Clean it off, bath it in Isopropanol and prime. Generally metal models should not be stored in damp locations but speedily "used" to avoid any potential issue.

One "bad model" is enough to spread the desease so to speak. This is why I separate my metal with small plastic bags. And generally paint as fast as possible. Still my mountain of Lead consists of Pendraken, Oddzial Osmy and one 54mm Reaper Finari model and neither manufacturer has ever given me any grieve.

I think the only "grieve" I ever had with Pendraken was the misconception of the old SF2 pack containing a fixed allocation of poses. Alas, one PM later I now know I simply ask Leon for a certain makeup of my pack and if possible it will be accommodated. And I am pretty certain this will be my only issue with Leon for a few more years.  8)

Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: fsn on 20 September 2013, 03:42:43 PM
Quote from: Leon on 20 September 2013, 01:46:17 PM
which is due to the different rubbers we use. 

Heh! He said "rubbers".
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: get2grips on 20 September 2013, 05:18:18 PM
Quote from: fsn on 20 September 2013, 03:42:43 PM
Heh! He said "rubbers".

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: petercooman on 20 September 2013, 06:25:26 PM
Quote from: fsn on 20 September 2013, 03:42:43 PM
Heh! He said "rubbers".


;D =O
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: Leman on 20 September 2013, 10:31:59 PM
Different colours do spice things up somewhat. Maybe it's the spice affecting the figures.
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 21 September 2013, 08:15:00 AM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 20 September 2013, 10:31:59 PM
Different colours do spice things up somewhat. Maybe it's the spice affecting the figures.

Well turmeric will make em bright orange. Have see figures home cast in type metal jet black before painting.

IanS  :D
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: Hertsblue on 21 September 2013, 09:55:52 AM
And saffron will turn them bright yellow...  :D
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: sebigboss79 on 21 September 2013, 11:27:15 AM
Quote from: fsn on 20 September 2013, 03:42:43 PM
Heh! He said "rubbers".

Well..Leon plays safe  8) :d
Title: Re: Metal discoloration question
Post by: Leman on 21 September 2013, 01:20:26 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D