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Title: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 10 September 2013, 10:03:16 AM
Need to paint these :
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1174972_10151801678354463_1894769184_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1231658_10151801678359463_249599295_n.jpg)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 September 2013, 10:29:34 AM
Yes you do! I'm sure they will be excellent.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Steve J on 10 September 2013, 10:42:14 AM
Great sculpts. With a bit of conversion or clever basing they would be perfect for Stalingrad, fighting amongst the rubble. Hmmm :-\.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 10 September 2013, 12:08:11 PM
I've made the conversion from classic infantry to Tank Desant for Pendraken : they came in two different couples of miniatures.

On this photo I added an soviet officer (base cut, arm redirected to the front, legs slightly bend) on one tank and one rifleman (base cut, one leg cut and glue back) on the other. I'd like to add more, but I want to keep the turret free, to change it with the T-34/76 turret.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Hertsblue on 11 September 2013, 09:49:34 AM
They look very effective, B. Looking forward to seeing them painted.  :-bd
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 11 September 2013, 10:49:05 AM
Fast paint job. The ink is still fresh.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1174904_10151803894199463_358690965_n.jpg)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 September 2013, 11:57:18 AM
Those are really lovely, nicel composed and beautifully painted. Nice one.  8)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 11 September 2013, 12:39:13 PM
Facebook kills the photo. I'll try to find another host.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2h-O2qR1SQQ/UjBlYg4u0AI/AAAAAAAAALU/_BYk9zoi6BQ/w586-h1022-no/11sep2013-003.jpg)

Leon can you edit my former post with this link ?
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: BH62 on 11 September 2013, 02:00:08 PM
Hi Barbarian,
very nice effect. In the pack SV63 I received, there is not an officer with cap. How have you make it ?
BH62
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 11 September 2013, 02:44:05 PM
I used some officer from the officer pack, some riflemen and some sniper scouts.
I use strong scissors to cut the base. (bit after bit, not in one go !)
Then, I just bend gently with a blade, or pliers.
For the seated ones, I cut one leg and glue the foot and resculpt the missing parts.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Techno on 11 September 2013, 02:46:00 PM
Excellent B !! :-bd :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: BH62 on 11 September 2013, 03:13:19 PM
Thanks Barbarian, I'll try, but Leon could make an effort to propose more different poses ...!!!!   ;)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 11 September 2013, 03:18:23 PM
The problem isn't Leon. I imagine I could do more or these. :-\
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: petercooman on 11 September 2013, 05:15:43 PM
nice paintjob!
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Hertsblue on 12 September 2013, 08:16:58 AM
Nice "hang on for dear life" effect. Gives the models a lot of life.

Incidentally, you might try Photobucket as a host. I find it quite acceptable.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 12 September 2013, 08:37:54 AM
I'm doing the markings.
If someone can redirect me on a link which explain the tactical markings...
Mainly how does the numbers work.

I used Google+ on the second attempt, I think it's linked with Picasa.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 September 2013, 11:30:04 AM
The answer is a QI ? - it varies between units, and is not an army standard. It may not even be logical across a brigade.

IanS
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: mollinary on 12 September 2013, 11:44:38 AM
Love the look - by far the most realistic I have seen  :D

Mollinary
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 September 2013, 11:56:53 AM
http://www.wio.ru/tank/oz/oz-en.htm (http://www.wio.ru/tank/oz/oz-en.htm)

My favourite is 8th Tank corps  using American tanks, says it all really!
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Matt J on 12 September 2013, 12:47:08 PM
QuoteMy favourite is 8thTank Brigade using Ametican tanks, says it all really!

;D
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Hertsblue on 12 September 2013, 01:18:22 PM
Quote from: barbarian on 12 September 2013, 08:37:54 AM
I'm doing the markings.
If someone can redirect me on a link which explain the tactical markings...
Mainly how does the numbers work.

I used Google+ on the second attempt, I think it's linked with Picasa.

This is the book you need. Unfortunately now rather expensive - in 1983 it was just £7.95.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eastern-Front-Camouflage-Markings-1941-45/dp/1854092138/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1378991733&sr=1-1&keywords=the+eastern+front+steven+Zaloga (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eastern-Front-Camouflage-Markings-1941-45/dp/1854092138/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1378991733&sr=1-1&keywords=the+eastern+front+steven+Zaloga)

Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 12 September 2013, 01:35:23 PM
I had resolved myself to use Light Americans Tank, but fortunately, T-60's arose.

The only leased material in my Soviet force is a White scout car.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Ithoriel on 12 September 2013, 01:40:00 PM
Got copies of Zaloga's Eastern Front and Blitzkreig cammo books plus Hughes & Mann's book on the T-34 for the grand total of £5 in a charity shop earlier this year. Excellent reference books and well worth the money!!
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: nikharwood on 13 September 2013, 09:03:49 PM
Very nicely done  8)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 14 September 2013, 07:34:58 AM
I added a head in a drivers hatch.And the markings. And the matt varnish.
Need to redo some photos.


I've played a game of BKC II yesterday with them, they did well.

BTW, the more I play BKC II, the more I find it a clusterf*** to make decisions, to remember the various modifiers on the command rolls, and to frakking remember the rules of concealed troops, visibility in low terrain, and high terrain.

Concealed troops are seen if they fire, or move along or out of cover, or if an enemy unit comes under 10 cm for INF or 20cm if AFV. .... OKAY
Low terrain : INF sees INF under 10cm. INF sees AFV at 20cm. AFV sees INF at 20cm.....OKAY
High terrain : INF sees INF at 5cm. INF sees AFV at 5cm. AFV sees INF at 5cm. AFV sees AFV at 10cm...OKAY.

Now try to work out these rules with troops into a village (high terrain) with a field crop in front (low terrain) and the opponent in the woods (high terrain) ...MIND BLOWED.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 14 September 2013, 07:40:05 AM
Use just the worst case.

IanS
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Fenton on 14 September 2013, 08:29:18 AM
Someone has offered to sell me a copy of BKC2 for the price of a biscuit and raisin yorkie..I have offered 2 as it seemed fairer price
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: howayman on 14 September 2013, 11:20:05 AM
Fenton. was that 2 chunks of a Yorkie or two  whole Yorkies ?
  Lovely Job on those models, catches just the right feel.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Fenton on 14 September 2013, 11:20:56 AM
Two complete yorkies, unopened and unlicked
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: kev1964 on 14 September 2013, 06:58:26 PM
Excellent work , especially the riders,


kev
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Ace of Spades on 04 October 2013, 08:15:05 PM
Like the models and paintwork; good use of colours in my opinion!

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Axebreaker on 08 October 2013, 07:27:43 PM
Very nice and the riders look great! 8)

Christopher
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 08 October 2013, 09:30:37 PM
Final pictures :
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WaHbBbDhyvg/UlR5DY7SGwI/AAAAAAAAAac/zQ0GzNIt4vk/w660-h847-no/8ottobre2013+003.jpg)
EDIT:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vhrgE9UatMc/UlSEi4h9-KI/AAAAAAAAAcg/IWb809DI7T0/w958-h719-no/8ottobre2013+004.jpg)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 October 2013, 09:59:18 PM
Very very cool.  8)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Sandinista on 08 October 2013, 11:05:53 PM
cool  8) 8)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: tschuma on 08 October 2013, 11:22:07 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: old smokie on 09 October 2013, 10:53:52 AM
just bought a copy from Ebay for £12  :)  :-bd

there is another one listed link below

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Eastern-Front-Armour-Camouflage-and-Markings-1941-1945-/131013023039?pt=Non_Fiction&hash=item1e80fc153f

Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 09 October 2013, 11:11:08 AM
This seller doesn't offer international postage.
:(
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: old smokie on 09 October 2013, 11:14:57 AM
@ barbarian

try contacting them they may be able to arrange something, I have done it a few times before with good results
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Techno on 09 October 2013, 12:43:08 PM
REALLY like those !!
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 10 November 2013, 11:19:45 PM
Just to brag a little bit : I've just taken a Bronze medal at the Monte San Savino Show in the Military vehicles and Dioramas category for these three T-34/85 into a wheatfield.
Crappy phone photos found on Instagram :
(http://distilleryimage0.s3.amazonaws.com/493028ca497e11e3b7ed12d69d74e3c2_8.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage11.s3.amazonaws.com/c4eafe0a497d11e39742123d8e3ac668_8.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/e1a74076497d11e3889112900d0d04d7_8.jpg)

Yep, the True Scale won a third place. ;)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 November 2013, 12:16:53 AM
 8)
Very well done.
:D
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Ithoriel on 11 November 2013, 12:48:12 AM
Superb models, a well deserved win.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Leon on 11 November 2013, 02:15:26 AM
Excellent, well done!

8)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: FierceKitty on 11 November 2013, 09:08:36 AM
Whatever they're putting on the wheat to make it grow like that, it's working!
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Hertsblue on 11 November 2013, 10:26:24 AM
Very nicely done, B. If you hand-drew the numbers I take my hat off to you.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 11 November 2013, 10:59:09 AM
FK : This is a well grown doormat.  :P
Hertsblue : Everything done with my little hands.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: ronan on 11 November 2013, 02:58:33 PM
that's great !
=D>

( I' m searching for  something to do 1940 wheat fields. What did you used ?  :-\ )
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 11 November 2013, 04:30:03 PM
Doormat = Paillasson.
If you're lucky, you'll find different heights.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: ronan on 11 November 2013, 04:52:51 PM
Thank you.
I only found "high" doormats, so I thought it wasn't ok. I will search for the good ones.
:-bd
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: nikharwood on 05 January 2014, 04:07:16 PM
Very nicely done  8)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Womble67 on 05 January 2014, 11:10:57 PM
They look absolutely fantastic

take care

andy
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: cardophillipo on 08 January 2014, 10:10:33 AM
They look great can I ask what paint colours you used for the Desant troops?

Cheers

Richard  :)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 08 January 2014, 01:52:45 PM
Vallejo:
-856 Ochre Brown (which is really more yellow than it seems). Highlights with 856 + 918 Ivory.
-helmets in 894 Russian Green. (really dark) highlights with 894 + 918 Ivory.


-Boots, weapons : Acrylic Payne's grey : almost black.

-skin : model master pink-salmon.

The process is :
-Matt 63 Humbrol base-coat (for gaming, it is better, diluated with Turpentine)
-Flat colors.
-Wash : Colorex Airbrush acrylic burnt Sienna (or anything brownish).
-Re-base color but diluated
-Highlights
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: cardophillipo on 08 January 2014, 02:00:00 PM
Great thanks much appreciated  8)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 22 July 2014, 10:16:40 AM
After a bit of research, I discovered that the T-34/85 model 43 was available in early 44, so no T-34/85 at Kursk.

I remade a T-34/76 obr 43 (the one with the commander cupola and the rounded turret) from a T-34/76 model 41.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oL3G3jhpVIU/U842zYGKFCI/AAAAAAAABB0/yQ6Kt3-AJlM/w783-h619-no/bazarjuly+002.jpg)
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 July 2014, 10:51:18 AM
Oooooohh!! I LIKE that!

Me wanna!
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 July 2014, 11:10:00 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Techno on 22 July 2014, 01:11:51 PM
 8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Womble67 on 22 July 2014, 08:11:31 PM
Very nice

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Hertsblue on 23 July 2014, 09:16:40 AM
Very neatly done, Barbarian, but the thought of converting a dozen of them gives me the willies.  8-} 8-} 8-}
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: barbarian on 23 July 2014, 10:05:24 AM
I'm sending this one to Leon and Dave, they'll decide if they want to put them in production.
I'm not mad, I don't want to do this twelve times.

I may do the T-34/76 obr 42 from this : Hard corners, cut the cupola and voilà.
Title: Re: [WWII] Soviet Tank Desant
Post by: Ace of Spades on 06 August 2014, 07:16:48 AM
That looks awesome; if Pendraken don't want to put these into production they're missing out on a great opportunity I'd say!  ;)

Cheers,
Rob