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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: wurrukatte on 09 September 2013, 04:36:24 PM

Title: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: wurrukatte on 09 September 2013, 04:36:24 PM
So it didn't pass totally unnoticed.

W
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: Techno on 09 September 2013, 04:59:25 PM
Just seen it on the News.
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 September 2013, 05:38:25 PM
Cool.
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: howayman on 09 September 2013, 06:03:05 PM
Not foe the Scots.  ;)
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: Ithoriel on 09 September 2013, 06:17:34 PM
"The flooers o' the forest are a' wede away"
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: Jim Ando on 09 September 2013, 06:48:03 PM
Hi

Visited the battlefield about 10 years ago.

The first thing that struck me was what the hell were the jocks thinking of.

They had a cracking position and they came off  it to attack the English.

Doh !.

Jim
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: seano1815 on 09 September 2013, 10:30:56 PM
Hi
I was on the battlefield walk today, very good really interesting. walking the field was a great experience, the geography surprised me especially on the English side. Listening to Clive's great commentary, and talking with friends its easy to see the disaster unfold. What surprised me, the time the Scots had been there they had not scouted the ground at all. Crazy ~X(
All the best
Sean
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: WeeWars on 11 September 2013, 12:10:35 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24019541 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24019541)
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: Hertsblue on 11 September 2013, 10:03:51 AM
"King Henry VIII was declared the victor" - Henry was hundreds of miles away in France!. The Earl of Surrey, Thomas Howard, commanded the English army at Flodden and his reward was to be reinstated as Duke of Norfolk. 
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: Fenton on 11 September 2013, 10:12:05 AM
Was Catherine of Aragorn at the battle? acting as regent?, I remember reading it somewhere, maybe wrong
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: mollinary on 11 September 2013, 01:59:10 PM
No, she was not present at the battle, but she was acting as regent.

Mollinary
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: Leman on 11 September 2013, 02:20:54 PM
Henry was a bit cheesed that the home victory, under Catherine's regency, was considerably more outstanding than the Radcliffe and Maconey firework that was the Battle of the Spurs. I happen to think this is one of the best battlefields in Britain to visit. Even the muddy dip where James met his end is still muddy despite the continuous agricultural use.
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: Sunray on 11 September 2013, 07:47:17 PM
Quote from: seano1815 on 09 September 2013, 10:30:56 PM
Hi
I was on the battlefield walk today, very good really interesting. walking the field was a great experience, the geography surprised me especially on the English side. Listening to Clive's great commentary, and talking with friends its easy to see the disaster unfold. What surprised me, the time the Scots had been there they had not scouted the ground at all. Crazy ~X(
All the best
Sean

The Bastard Heron was the cannie borderer who led the English on the flank march that compromised the Scots.

James made a last throw to capture Surrey.  see www.flodden.net  



EDIT: Quote fixed.
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: seano1815 on 11 September 2013, 10:48:09 PM
The last act of a desperate man methinks ;) plus the timely arrival of Stanley's division routing James last hope, the old highlanders. The field is well worth a visit
Have a great week
All the best
Sean
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: RichardJohnstone on 20 September 2013, 03:48:24 PM
I had a tour with Clive on the 15th, couldn't get time off for the actual anniversary sadly. Thought it was a particularly interesting, but entirely tragic, story. If only Hume and Huntley hadn't decided to leave the field how different could things have been! Clive postulated that the Scottish army was actually looking to retreat which led the the terrible idea of moving their giant guns to Branxton Hill. That 'yard of England' cost Scotland more than any other battle in history.  :(

I got a chance to speak to Clive after the tour and told him about my attempt to recreate the battle in 10mm scale, and that my dad was 'forcing' me to play the English which raised a chuckle! A great, if rather windy/rainy day out, but it was certainly authentic!
Title: Re: 500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.
Post by: Leman on 20 September 2013, 10:21:31 PM
Of course it was entirely brilliant for the English. Be seeing you Scotland. Cheerio!