Hi All
I need to pick your brains - what colour are ww1 traction engines - preferably British :-\
Dave
Battleship grey if manned by navy.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 27 August 2013, 06:16:54 PM
Battleship grey if manned by navy.
What about normal british army? - the same colour
Depends when in the war, early to mid was the same as British Artillery, late war they sometimes gained tank type camo, but its twenty years ago I read about them in Uni.
Think a few were even requisitioned and got as far as the front in civilian colours in 1914.
I know the Germans used two as far east as the Caucuses in 1941 as detailed by Peter Bamm in his excellent autobiography 'The Invisible Flag' about his time with the German medical staff.
Does anybody have any pics of the Traction Engines? BP57 thru BP59 and BP60.
I'm wondering if I could use these as proxies for my Warmaster armies.
My steamroller is here...
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,17494.0.html
This is the holt tractor (BP60)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TZ0N7W_4ewlJ-RbuH3IZPqqipXQtZ_khEWpObvh-b11Ui4lEAwCSWvnUTive49w_JoqR03of42axpUbKnY775olmMtQon9M2dRcp8sa3PsOTLUlFjSFypjU0ykmyN-KY4eQax5CiZmyyh6aQUu85gDTooBzxPlJFRM2rfV6bIkfxHupxSrPqBez3KplcF7jV0x96QOwCYAoaCjBi2JGTUPTzcTvIzc0WIFwykPS5Grx-R9UZXYMiz_DJGdrLIlZlCZyWKRYo1VZVJ6dUcXQ--dMXeHRy_YPyq4w7z0IEsj5Zw3_y_Vp1sH1WGQ6bZReax59qeHzFHKnc7SjEhIn5o-fO7oL3CovZy3VBfUdGQYnAi_X6WTR1bmePEg2PiCmk6T3ZAmzmQayECu2g_WWcgKmd2E2iyK6eEAUqKfHsE_FxFFWcwVNgMBkRELzCnzkVdKGwwBg77OSY8N20_v0W7fRMGuQyUjsgOaJnFJSid4fyO9W3PaGs7KgzeA-aDnwaV6NNyLN6JtTcZOMFAoNgb-Hnjm4QWWLfl_XqUPaP75BE0uzbZ2MRebFk8kbCDewogbnit3z_TsDmCyKRLAYrGlwQ-_qtNcFBvGa4309tpoFV1usNizZ_dsAODMwdMu4=w800-h461-no)
The gun and limber don't come with the tractor.
While back there was a Renault FT based steam tank in a thread here
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,12992.90.html
(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah136/clericclausen/Steam%20Tank_zpskf4tp9lz.jpg)
That's a gorgeous model! WW1 is too often overlooked...
Quote from: fred. on 03 September 2018, 08:32:44 PM
This is the holt tractor (BP60)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TZ0N7W_4ewlJ-RbuH3IZPqqipXQtZ_khEWpObvh-b11Ui4lEAwCSWvnUTive49w_JoqR03of42axpUbKnY775olmMtQon9M2dRcp8sa3PsOTLUlFjSFypjU0ykmyN-KY4eQax5CiZmyyh6aQUu85gDTooBzxPlJFRM2rfV6bIkfxHupxSrPqBez3KplcF7jV0x96QOwCYAoaCjBi2JGTUPTzcTvIzc0WIFwykPS5Grx-R9UZXYMiz_DJGdrLIlZlCZyWKRYo1VZVJ6dUcXQ--dMXeHRy_YPyq4w7z0IEsj5Zw3_y_Vp1sH1WGQ6bZReax59qeHzFHKnc7SjEhIn5o-fO7oL3CovZy3VBfUdGQYnAi_X6WTR1bmePEg2PiCmk6T3ZAmzmQayECu2g_WWcgKmd2E2iyK6eEAUqKfHsE_FxFFWcwVNgMBkRELzCnzkVdKGwwBg77OSY8N20_v0W7fRMGuQyUjsgOaJnFJSid4fyO9W3PaGs7KgzeA-aDnwaV6NNyLN6JtTcZOMFAoNgb-Hnjm4QWWLfl_XqUPaP75BE0uzbZ2MRebFk8kbCDewogbnit3z_TsDmCyKRLAYrGlwQ-_qtNcFBvGa4309tpoFV1usNizZ_dsAODMwdMu4=w800-h461-no)
The gun and limber don't come with the tractor.
It's a cool bit of kit. I'm not sure it has a lot of gaming use, but in 10mm it feels the right thing to add to your forces as they are only a few pounds.
It would make an interesting target for a Gotha bomber - knock out the heavy guns being put into position before they are able to commence a bombardment. I have been thinking about a Belgian cavalry raid, with accompanying Minervas on Austrian big guns being hauled up to Liege.
What models were you going to use as Minervas ?
I had a similar idea but couldn't find a suitable model for them.
Tony of TTT
Quote from: TinyTinTroops on 07 September 2018, 06:43:48 PM
What models were you going to use as Minervas ?
I think Leman means the Van Dyck ones:
http://vandyckmodelsandfigurines.be/index.php/furniture/world-war-one/belgian-army/1914-minerva-armoured-car.html
Those are the ones. My Belgian army is made up of a mix of Pendraken, VanDyck and Irregular, with the old 1859/66 shako cavalry providing the mounted chasseurs.