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Title: Painting
Post by: chalkie on 21 August 2013, 11:50:06 AM
Hi, wondering if you could help . I ve never painted 10 mm before and I've been out the game for a long time, how do you get the dark outlines on your figures ? I've never tried washes before, don't know why but I've seen the photos of the AWI figures and that's what Iam after. Is there anything else I can use / do to get this effect. Sorry for the daft questions.

Paul.
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Fenton on 21 August 2013, 11:57:22 AM
I think most of the pictures your mentioning are undercoated in black and the black effect is done by making sure yoiu leave a thin black line  between the various colours. to my mind a black wash doesn't have the same effect
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: get2grips on 21 August 2013, 12:19:04 PM
Quote from: chalkie on 21 August 2013, 11:50:06 AM
Hi, wondering if you could help . I ve never painted 10 mm before and I've been out the game for a long time, how do you get the dark outlines on your figures ? I've never tried washes before, don't know why but I've seen the photos of the AWI figures and that's what Iam after. Is there anything else I can use / do to get this effect. Sorry for the daft questions.

Paul.

Okay, I'm probably going to get shot down in flames here but I'll go out on a limb.  The easiest way to start is to black undercoat and then dry brush in your base colour.  So, let's say it's a knight, silver, chainmail or whatever.

If you do this right you'll create a "black line" in and around all the recesses.  You can then paint up to this which means you don't have to black line at the end.

A wash, when you've finished your block painting will "tie" the whole thing together ready for final highlights.

Any use?
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: chalkie on 21 August 2013, 01:07:52 PM
Both replies are of use , never tried the dry brush effect but will give it a go and see which is best for me.

Thanks lads,

Paul.
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: get2grips on 21 August 2013, 01:18:26 PM
Quote from: chalkie on 21 August 2013, 01:07:52 PM
Both replies are of use , never tried the dry brush effect but will give it a go and see which is best for me.

Thanks lads,

Paul.

No worries Paul and welcome to the forum  :)

What are you looking to paint?
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: chalkie on 21 August 2013, 01:48:58 PM
I've ordered some British AWI for my son but I will get to paint them. I've always done 15mm.
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: get2grips on 21 August 2013, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: chalkie on 21 August 2013, 01:48:58 PM
I've ordered some British AWI for my son but I will get to paint them. I've always done 15mm.

Post this as AWI painting and you'll get some really specific responses  :)

Good luck  ;)
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: sixsideddice on 21 August 2013, 02:12:17 PM
affect can also be achieved (to greater or lesser degrees... but very simple to do) by dripping a coat of ink of similar colour over the desired area that is already painted.

Six  :)
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: sebigboss79 on 21 August 2013, 03:07:56 PM
There is no daft questions in gaming, with the exception of any question about Centurions  :d

Scales of 10 - 3mm (yes I game THAT small) require no special skills just a rethinking of techniques.
In short:

-more brushing
-brighter colours than you would use at 15mm+

For most of us the single layer over basecoat works fine. Don't forget you are playing MASSES where individual shortcomings are replaced by the mass effect. If you require eyelashes I recomend asking nikharwood here on the forum.

Concerning basing I recomend you do that first and finish your base including flock etc. and secondly I suggest getting good quality sand and flock from Pendraken. I have realised some stuff is too "coarse" wheras the Pendraken offerings are fine for even my 3mm armies. @Leon I assume an order coming through from the gentleman, you know where I live so cheques made payable to my name  ;D
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Leman on 21 August 2013, 08:48:42 PM
I find 10mm easier to paint than 15mm because you don't need so much detail. Consequently units are completed more quickly and gaming can begin. I use a slightlyndifferent technique - undercoat white, wash with black, block paint bright colours, wash with sepia, highlight. The next bit is quite time consuming but 2 coats of varnish and well produced bases really finish a figure off:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20Dux%20Britanniarum/IMG_0861_zps34f2089c.jpg)

EDIT: Pic resized.
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: chalkie on 22 August 2013, 10:11:29 AM
Thanks to all of you for your comments, I have some really good tips now so just waiting for the figures to arrive then I will get started.

"watch this space "

Paul.
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 August 2013, 11:50:19 AM
Quote from: sebigboss79 on 21 August 2013, 03:07:56 PM
There is no daft questions in gaming, with the exception of any question about Centurions  :d [\quote]

Got to rise to that challenge - so What colour crest did a Marian Centurion wear on his helmet ?

IanS

Title: Re: Painting
Post by: chalkie on 22 August 2013, 02:31:41 PM
Well the figures came today and they are cracking , I will have a go at painting a few and post them on here later. :)
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Leman on 23 August 2013, 04:46:58 PM
Looking forward.
Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Leon on 23 August 2013, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: chalkie on 22 August 2013, 02:31:41 PM
Well the figures came today and they are cracking , I will have a go at painting a few and post them on here later. :)

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