Right All...
First of all....Not absolutely sure which section of the forum this really needs to go in..... :-\
Sooooo.....If there's a more appropriate area...I'll ask if Leon would move it there. ;)
Now.
I'm making inroads into the wee chaps as I plonk.....But there are a few (maybe more, maybe lots of) codes, I think it would be worth getting some feedback on, to see what folk are hoping for.
I'll only query one code at a time.....Otherwise the thread will start getting a bit too messy. ( HAH !!!!....NO change for us then !! ;) ;D ;D)
So first....as it will be one of the easier and quicker codes to sculpt.....
Your thoughts, Ladies and Gents (and piccies where possible please) for the generic civilians.
I'm imagining that the thought behind these is that they could be used for almost any era as 'peasant' types, and though they'd be primarily destined for the Mongol range, they would prove useful additions to whatever is fancied.
Hope that all makes sense !
Over to you then. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Have a look at the film Mongol Phil. Lots of 'civvies' in it may give you some ideas..but women and children would be nice for raiding for slaves type games
Long haired generic Asiatic types that could be used all the way through would be the best long term iinvestment for da boyz,
However, Mongolia fashions are, well very different to chinese and Japanese peasent wear, more layers and fur for a start!
Generic peasants workign the land.......
(http://data8.blog.de/media/080/7184080_8ed1c8c150_l.jpeg)
Cheers,
Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
I'd guess Techno would like ideas for the pose as well as the clothing/appearance. I'm assuming they would be part of a battle scenario.
Would they be tilling the land or attending a market with a battle raging? Fleeing for their very lives? Clapped in manacles? Watching/cheering the proceedings? Marching off in refugee columns? etc
Sorry I was purely thinking costumes :-[
That pic's interesting, I think I was expecting something more 'furry':
(http://files.myopera.com/SashkaMumla/blog/kinopoisk.ru-Mongol-245750.jpg)
:D
Quote from: Leon on 12 August 2013, 03:37:30 PM
That pic's interesting, I think I was expecting something more 'furry'
Yes, that picture is more my idea of Mongol civilians. The ones Craig posted look like Western late medieval or early renaissance period to me and are largely engaged in activities I'd not associate with the Mongols.
Not (currently!) intending to collect Mongols but if I were I'd be looking for figures standing/ walking/ riding to act as camp followers or scenario objectives.
Druzinha, where are you!
How about 2 in Mongolian fur hats, 2 bare-headed or with pony / pig-tails and one with a skull cap
A couple of them on the plump side
At least 2 females
Wouldn't the Mongolian civilians look pretty much the same as the Mongol warriors, but with out weapons?
A figure in one of these maybe
(http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt334/SteveW_04/Corbis-DS001805.jpg) (http://s625.photobucket.com/user/SteveW_04/media/Corbis-DS001805.jpg.html)
From the film "Mongol"
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4VtNMgaPDnk/T8XZkU3tqLI/AAAAAAAAABc/5r_ky98jHn0/s1600/2.jpg)
Some modern reconstructions of traditional dress
(http://www.sumitomocorp.co.jp/files/topics/279_ext_29_en_0.jpg)
Not sure the mobile phone is an accurate accessory :)
(http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=8HViSElSB_DdnM&tbnid=tdNL5Z7kiezoPM:&ved=0CAIQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.visualphotos.com%2Fphoto%2F1x7744199%2Fmongolia_800th_birthday_of_mongol_empire_F33-663346.jpg&ei=ehwJUo2oIumc0AWk1ICYBA&psig=AFQjCNFfNCjNkprOrEHfgseOoxiuPeIiow&ust=1376414529846312)
(http://images.chinatravel.net/images/ChinaTravel/UpLoadPicture/ResourcePhoto/0002%5C4209.jpg)
(http://www.baikalcomplex.com/images/info/altargana1.jpg)
OK Techno, how's your sculpting of eagles? :)
(http://www.discovermongolia.mn/images/country/Mongolian-ethnic_and_linguistic_group.jpg)
(http://www.weirdhut.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/people-of-Mongolia.jpg)
If you want to include captives, maybe something a bit less advanced:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/DiezAlbumsPrisoners.jpg/520px-DiezAlbumsPrisoners.jpg)
Sorry I definitely had a blonde momment and posted some generic medieval peasant pics rather than Mongol ones.
For my part Mongol horse handler would be a nice touch, and maybe a blacksmith or similar working at an anvil? Something with a bit of character that can be used on a camp base. I agree female chives also add something a little different.
Cheers,
Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
Quote from: TinyTerrain on 12 August 2013, 06:21:48 PM
I agree female chives also add something a little different.
Cheers,
Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
You been watching The Herbs again?
Classic series!
And nothing to do with smoking herbs either...
It was Herbidacious I think you'll find :D
QuoteSomething with a bit of character that can be used on a camp base.
John Inman or Larry Grayson? :-[ (So sorry I just couldn't resist!)
QuoteI agree female chives also add something a little different.
Now you've really lost me Craig ???.
Civvies......dammed phone!
Quotedammed
I imagine you meant "damned"? :D ;)
Thanks for these guys....I'll come back and have proper look just a tiny bit later. :)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 13 August 2013, 07:37:48 AM
Thanks for these guys....I'll come back and have proper look just a tiny bit later. :)
Cheers - Phil
You having to take time out to spruce yourself up for your big interview for Oldhammer? :)
No.....I've got to go and feed the chickens before I start work properly. :P
Now will everybody stop posting for an hour so I can catch up what I've missed since yesterday afternoon. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: TinyTerrain on 12 August 2013, 06:21:48 PM
Sorry I definitely had a blonde momment and posted some generic medieval peasant pics rather than Mongol ones.
Yes, Craig, I think we're talking hunter gatherers here. Still, I have to thank you for a moment of imagining a Mongol treading the grape harvest.
What about a Mongol civilian in T-shirt and jeans?
(http://www.mileslight.com/travels/mongolia/CIMG8594-lores.jpg)
Behind the good-looking bird, there's a dinky cart that needs to see the tabletop:
(http://www.mileslight.com/travels/mongolia/CIMG8615.jpg)
That what-you-call-it I posted previously:
(http://www.blogto.com/upload/2008/06/20080606-mongol.jpg)
And don't miss the opportunity of sculpting some of these:
(http://www.210countries.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mongolia-naadam-festival-MN100097.jpg)
So...Am I doing this female Mongolian chive or what ? ;) :P
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: WeeWars on 13 August 2013, 11:46:22 AMAnd don't miss the opportunity of sculpting some of these:
(http://www.210countries.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mongolia-naadam-festival-MN100097.jpg)
From the look on the old bloke in the red hat's face, the young chap on the right has put a little too much effort and strain into his Pre-bout gurning... :o
Do you think the guy with the blue hat is always as the front in case he slips and slides forward in the mud?
;D ;D ;D ;D
Next question.
The standards ?
There seem to be a number of possible variants here.
My choices seem to be.
A)......A horse hair type, as favoured by Genghis himself.
B )......Largish 'triangular'.
C)......Largish (Very large really !)....Almost square shape.
D)......Just a straight 'pole', so you guys can 'do your own thing' with a paper flag.
Thoughts folks ?.....And I'll obviously also be guided by Leon here.
From a completely selfish point of view, I like 'D'....as it'll be a lot quicker ! ;) ;D
Second choice for me would be 'A'.....But I'll go with the flow. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
A was jhingis' own way of showing he had united the tribes, each tail represented a tribes equal share of glory (according to Conn Iggulden's series of books anyway) I know he spent time out there researching facts, so that may be worth looking in to.
The horse tails have been the most popular in the emails/requests/chats I've had with folk?
I'd have thought the horse tail - its fairly iconic
Also its fairly easy to cut back if you want to do a simple square or triangular banner as a conversion.
hi
i would go for the d option as it will be both more flexible and also quicker!!
great to have input and i look fwd to the enemies as well
Quote from: Leon on 14 August 2013, 03:33:54 PM
The horse tails have been the most popular in the emails/requests/chats I've had with folk?
Fair do's....and as Fred says, should be relatively straightforward to convert that one ?
Cheers - Phil.
Horse hair for me please :)
Quote from: WeeWars on 13 August 2013, 11:46:22 AM
Behind the good-looking bird, there's a dinky cart that needs to see the tabletop:
(http://www.mileslight.com/travels/mongolia/CIMG8615.jpg)
Yep - that's a good-looking bird.
[quote
And don't miss the opportunity of sculpting some of these:
(http://www.210countries.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mongolia-naadam-festival-MN100097.jpg)
[/quote]
Mongol. David. Brent.
(http://www.singlesolution.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/dance.jpg)
Nik may have hit on an alternative free figure.
Ahem.... ;)
Returning to the thread. ;D ;D
I'm seeing the horsehair standard being about twice the height of the figure ('Castability' allowing)....
Does that sound about right to you chaps ?
Cheers - Phil.
Works for me but it will need to be straight up rather than slanted like a lance: can you cast this?
A modern reconstruction
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Mongol_tug.jpg/220px-Mongol_tug.jpg)
THAT is particularly useful S. :-bd
The piccy I was working from doesn't give any 3D perception....In fact it looks like a long haired 'broom head' cross piece.....Not a round 'dustbin lid' with the hair dangling in a circle.
That's saved some time (and swearing).....Many thanks ! :)
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: get2grips on 19 August 2013, 11:17:14 AM
Works for me but it will need to be straight up rather than slanted like a lance: can you cast this?
It'll be straight up, as near as poss G. ;)
In the pose I'm doing the wee chap, it would suit that for casting purposes anyway.
Cheers - Phil.