George Gush uses Nicolaas Hogenberg's 'Emperor Charles V in procession to his coronation by Pope Clement VII at Bologna', 1530 (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Hogenberg-1530.htm) as the source for the Papal Guard (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Renaissance/GushBook/7_Italians.htm). The Hogenberg plate of the guards (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Hogenberg-26.htm) is the only one of the 38 that does not have a latin inscription. Gush calls them Germans but there is nothing to indicate this. There are Bolognese infantry in classical costume (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Hogenberg-4.htm) in the early part of the procession and landsknechts under Antonio de Leyva (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Hogenberg-34.htm) near the end, so the guards in the middle around Pope Clement VII and Emperor Charles V (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Hogenberg-27.htm) are probably Papal (they wear Sajones more typical of Italian costume).
Other plates include:
Bolognese banners (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Hogenberg-6.htm)
Papal banners (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Hogenberg-8.htm)
Mercenary Knights (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Hogenberg-32.htm)
Artillery (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Hogenberg-35.htm)
MIRROR SITE
'Emperor Charles V in procession to his coronation by Pope Clement VII at Bologna', 1530 by Nicolaas Hogenberg (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Hogenberg-1530.htm)
Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare.atspace.eu/index.htm)
Good sites, some pages took a while to open.
Great pics....Really like the artist's style on those.
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: mad lemmey on 26 July 2013, 06:36:51 AM
Good sites, some pages took a while to open.
As the scenes overlap the plates I have displayed 2 plates per page so that these scenes can be understood, but, if using 'previous' or 'next' only 1 extra image needs to load.
Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare.likamva.in/index.htm)
Quote from: Druzhina on 26 July 2013, 05:18:19 AM
Nicolaas Hogenberg's 'Emperor Charles V in procession to his coronation by Pope Clement VII at Bologna', 1530
On the page it says: "Optocht van Karel V met de paus te Bologna na zijn kroning tot keizer, 1530, Nicolaas Hogenberg" (note the extra 't', as well).
This means it's the procession of Charles V
and the Pope
after the coronation.
Also interestingly, plate 26 (Guards) has 'Keizerlijke garde' i.e. Imperial Guards as a subtitle. No idea why or where this comes from (Rijksmuseum, probably?) but maybe you'd like to know.
Quote from: OldenBUA on 26 July 2013, 10:07:16 AM
On the page it says: "Optocht van Karel V met de paus te Bologna na zijn kroning tot keizer, 1530, Nicolaas Hogenberg" (note the extra 't', as well).
This means it's the procession of Charles V and the Pope after the coronation.
I blindly followed the British Museum on this. I've had a look at the dedication & title plates but they are no help, then I found some Google book references which also have it as the procession
after the coronation. I will e-mail the British Museum again (they advised me that plate 1 of their set will be displayed correctly after the next database update) to have them investigate.
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Also interestingly, plate 26 (Guards) has 'Keizerlijke garde' i.e. Imperial Guards as a subtitle. No idea why or where this comes from (Rijksmuseum, probably?) but maybe you'd like to know.
I translated the captions from the Dutch at the Rijksmuseum site, as Google Translate is not very good at Latin. It needs U instead of V & doesn't have a very large vocabulary, there are a lot of abbreviations used (lines above letters mostly indicate these), there are some typos and the spaces between words are unclear. I couldn't fix most of these until I found some references in Italian books. I added some extra info to the captions from the Latin but for plate 26 I deleted 'Imperial' as there was nothing to back this up.
Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare.co.nf/index.htm)
The British Museum have replied that the database records will be amended to 'after' the coronation.
Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare.co.nf/index.htm)
Quote from: Druzhina on 09 August 2013, 03:46:15 AM
The British Museum have replied that the database records will be amended to 'after' the coronation.
:-bd