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Pendraken News & Info! => General Pendraken => Topic started by: clive armour on 16 June 2013, 10:26:32 PM

Title: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: clive armour on 16 June 2013, 10:26:32 PM
can some one tell me what the guns on the two towers were called as i have to get two for a diorama i am building for a competion they ;) need to be 10mm and personnel to go with them have looked on this site but cannot locate them many thanks  clive
Title: Re: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: Ithoriel on 16 June 2013, 11:57:01 PM
http://www.lwl.org/westfaelische-geschichte/portal/Internet/finde/langDatensatz.php?urlID=493&url_tabelle=tab_websegmente

Only site I could find with info on the defenders rather than the attacking Lancasters in the short time I had available.

It reckons there were six 20mm flak guns of 3rd Battery, 840th Light Flak Battalion stationed on or around the dam.

GR59 20mm A.A. with limber and crew would be the Pendraken model for that - though the limber would, of course not have been used on the dam.

It is possible that some or all of them would be the quad-barrelled 20mm Flakvierling though there's no indication of that in the text I've listed (as far as I can see - my German is rudimentary!!!)

GR56 20mm quad A.A. with crew represents one of those.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: clive armour on 18 June 2013, 04:20:19 PM
fantastic thank you they were in fact quads i just wanted to know what they were calledand where i could find them on site  thanks again regards clive
Title: Re: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: NTM on 18 June 2013, 06:00:35 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 16 June 2013, 11:57:01 PM


It is possible that some or all of them would be the quad-barrelled 20mm Flakvierling though there's no indication of that in the text I've listed (as far as I can see - my German is rudimentary!!!)


It states "Sologeschütze" or single barrel.

The Osprey Dambusters book says they were single barrel too.
Title: Re: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: rexhurley on 19 June 2013, 03:47:26 AM
Can't wait for Mr Jackson's remake of the  movie, he's got himself some full scale replicas made oh so cool
Title: Re: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 June 2013, 07:07:05 AM
No idea about the defences - but in  the early 70's you could still see the join. On an cadet force camp at Guterslow (sp) we went to the Mohne dam, and walked across whistling a certain march.

IanS
Title: Re: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: sebigboss79 on 19 June 2013, 12:13:42 PM
 :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB8F8g1-4Uw    or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMZDEuiq8nQ    or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18zeKU7wz_8    or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_D1mYBBHgM


;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 June 2013, 03:25:38 PM
No guess again, it's British and associated with a film........

IanS  ;)
Title: Re: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: sebigboss79 on 20 June 2013, 10:42:36 AM
The first link not the one???  :o

Hmmmmm (smokecloud over head appears).....

My next best guess would be either "Mission Impossible" or "The great Escape"....  :-\
Title: Re: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 June 2013, 11:12:21 AM
If I said it involved heavy bombers and Labradors with what is now an offensive name.....

But that is a bit too obvious.

IanS
Title: Re: mohne dam defences dambusters raid
Post by: Ithoriel on 20 June 2013, 12:17:10 PM
When I was at Library School in Aberystwyth the march being referenced was one of the tunes on the Student Union jukebox. Strange place Wales :) My now ex, then girlfriend, came down from Scotland to see me. We went to the Union and, while I was at the bar getting drinks, the music came on. I returned with the drinks to find my rather bemused lady had been dragged up on to the billiard table by one of the agricultural college students I knew and was being waltzed across the baize. Strange lot the agrics :)