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Title: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: TinyTerrain on 03 June 2013, 02:07:54 AM
Before I go any further can I say that this is my first attempt at 10mm conversions using greenstuiff, the smallest I have done before is 28mm......so be gentle with me.

Having seen the Wulfheodenas re-enactors today at Dryham Park, I thought I would try converting some Pendraken 10mm Romans into 6th C Saxons with throwing axes and furs. The aim is if they look good enough when finished I will offer them to Leon as I think they might be useful to add to the catalogue?

Chatting to one of the re-enactors this afternoon he was explaining that they believe throwing axes were widely used in the 6th and 7th C, so the first job was to convert some spear throwers and holders into axe throwers by snipping off part of the spear, fililing it down, twisting the arms a little and then adding axe heads:

(http://data8.blog.de/media/938/7064938_d783aa6729_m.jpeg)

After that I decided to add some furs using green stuff as most of the reenactors seemes to favour a wolf pelt or similar around their neck:

(http://data8.blog.de/media/947/7064947_ec1b2aa64d_m.jpeg)

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Bigger pictures are available on my blog.

The fur with the wolf face across the shield needs a little more work as the dangling leg next to the face is a little long and I need to add some wolf ears, but given this is the first time I have tried converting 10mm I am pretty pleased with the results so far.

As ever, feedback is very welcome, but play nicely  :'(

Best regards,

Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Steve J on 03 June 2013, 06:49:45 AM
I like them Craig >:<.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Techno on 03 June 2013, 06:55:55 AM
I think those are terrific Craig.
They've worked particularly well.
Great job !! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: TinyTerrain on 03 June 2013, 07:41:32 AM
I am not worthy of praise from you Phil, I don't know how the he'll you create the minis you do, pushing greenstuff about in this scale is bloody tricky to say the least.

Cheers

Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Steve J on 03 June 2013, 08:05:00 AM
Optivisors make a big difference Craig. At work I use a magnifying light an awful lot of the time, which makes a massive difference.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 June 2013, 08:20:03 AM
Nice work fella!
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Hertsblue on 03 June 2013, 09:17:59 AM
Good job, Craig.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Phobos on 03 June 2013, 10:18:01 AM
Good job! A little advice: use less GS.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: TinyTerrain on 03 June 2013, 11:35:33 AM
Thanks Phobos, your right, I have had to cut back some of the fur as it was too big. Next time less is more  :D

Cheers

Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: quasar42 on 03 June 2013, 12:10:02 PM

These look great. Would be interested to see them in production.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: sunjester on 03 June 2013, 12:51:08 PM
These look really good!  =D>
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Leman on 03 June 2013, 01:01:49 PM
As a man about to embark on Dux Britanniarum in 10mm I'd appreciate something like that. Much keener on pre- than post-C9th.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: TinyTerrain on 03 June 2013, 05:14:04 PM
So, never being one to stand still, I took the opportunity at lunchtime to knock up a couple more Wolf Saxons. Firstly I made a 4th guy with an Axe so I have a full base worth of Axe Warriors, all of which are different poses. I then thought it might be fun to start on a command stand and butchered another Roman spearman, and added in place of the spear the head from one of Pendragons Dogs and some plasticard and GS, to make a wolf standard bearer.

(http://data8.blog.de/media/921/7065921_f11cb8462e_m.jpeg)

(http://data8.blog.de/media/922/7065922_1bb3a44e17_m.jpeg)

Looking again at last nights sculpts, I decided they had a bit too much GS on them and some of the furs looked a little large. So I took about 25% of the GS off of each, and decided to remove the wolfs head that was over one of the shields, so I could save the idea for a command figure instead of a warrior unit.

So heres the final line up so far, 4 Axe warriors, and the first of the command unit.

(http://data8.blog.de/media/943/7065943_cf9e4cbf0f_l.jpeg)

Thanks for all the comments so far,

Cheers,

Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 June 2013, 06:48:26 PM
Yes please! I would buy some!  :-bd
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: mollinary on 03 June 2013, 06:53:03 PM
Well done, Craig!   You have a clear talent for this "sculpting thing".  Now, about these skirmishing 1866 Bavarians I was thinking of..... :D

Mollinary
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: TinyTerrain on 03 June 2013, 07:09:17 PM
As for moulding and casting that would be down to Leon to make a call on. My guess is even if Pendraken wanted them they would be some way down the queue. But I think with the furs they could pass for picts, barbarians / Vikings? Etc

The standard bearer guy wouldnt easily mold, so I'll just paint him up for myself for now   :d If there is real interest and Leon is keen I am happy to turn my hand to creating Barbarian/Pict/Viking fur laden Saxon conversions of spearmen, archers, command figures Etc.

Mollinary.....NO, just simply, NO

Cheers,

Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Steve J on 03 June 2013, 07:24:38 PM
Great work Craig 8).
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Kassad on 03 June 2013, 07:27:06 PM
Really nice conversions. Great work, my compliments  =D> I hope Leon grab your conversions and cast them.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: mollinary on 03 June 2013, 07:31:29 PM


Quote from: TinyTerrain on 03 June 2013, 07:09:17 PM

Mollinary.....NO, just simply, NO

Craig

Oh come on, Craig, you know you want to!  :P :P :P.  Really!!!  :D

Mollinary
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: fred. on 03 June 2013, 07:54:11 PM
Really good job on these - the thinned down furs look much better.

Now please have a little chat with Leon about getting some cast.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Hertsblue on 04 June 2013, 07:45:01 AM
The problem for Leon is the huge queue of masters waiting to be moulded. It costs money to have commercial moulds made and as he's stated in the past, the potential sales have to justify the cost. However, at the risk of being contentious dare I say that, for short runs and a handful of figures, home casting is not that difficult.....  :o
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: TinyTerrain on 04 June 2013, 11:33:16 AM
Hi

I had an email conversation with Leon last night and the conversions can't be added to their range without infringing the agreement they have with the original sculptor. This is very fair given the talent that the likes of Clib, Techno and the others exhibit compared to me just adding a bit of GS.

So for now I will have to be the only one with a wolf inspired war band  :D

Cheers,

Craig
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 June 2013, 11:40:31 AM
okay - Clib, can you modify you designs now?  ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: TinyTerrain on 04 June 2013, 06:03:27 PM
Just to pee you all off a little more  ;D , I ve painted the first of "The Fur Tribe" - The converted spearman into standard bearer

(http://data8.blog.de/media/624/7067624_9cb5f0f9a5_l.jpeg)(http://data8.blog.de/media/625/7067625_fe50828c6c_l.jpeg)

As you can see I went for Fox tails on the standard just for a little extra interest  ;)

I must stop messing  about with these conversions now, and get back to my finishing my French 100 Years War army. Ive only got two and a half bases left to paint and the army is finished!

Cheers,

Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: kev1964 on 04 June 2013, 06:11:56 PM
Great work Craig,

kev
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Steve J on 04 June 2013, 06:42:21 PM
Great stuff and love the fox tails 8). You will have to call him Reynard of course.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 June 2013, 07:16:02 PM
Superb!
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Techno on 04 June 2013, 08:28:32 PM
That's worked SO well Craig. :-bd =D>
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Phobos on 05 June 2013, 12:29:57 PM
Excellent work! Bien hecho! :D
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: BH62 on 05 June 2013, 05:22:16 PM
Very nice job. I would also like to begin the modification of figurines. Is there a tutorial to use the stuff green?
BH62
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: Leman on 05 June 2013, 09:01:02 PM
Looking extremely promising.
Title: Re: Converson to Saxons with Axes and Furs
Post by: nikharwood on 08 June 2013, 10:23:14 AM
Those are really nicely done Craig. Bravo  :D