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Title: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Ithoriel on 28 May 2013, 10:55:22 PM
Some of this is mentioned in other posts so wasn't sure whether to add to those or if they were old enough for that to verge on necromancy! So apologies if I'm starting something new unnecessarily.  :-[

Late to the party here but I'll add my vote for the Russian tracked 203mm howitzer. Used for direct fire in places as diverse as the Battle of Kursk and the Battle of Berlin so definitely something I want on table rather than as some imaginary off-board asset.

Also, not aware of having seen this mentioned anywhere here, though I may just have missed it, but any chance of an IL-2M Sturmovik for the aircraft range?

For the Germans, it would be nice to have a Panzer II L "Luchs" and a SdKfz.302 "Goliath" and controller(s).

Just some random thoughts from a newbie!
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: fsn on 29 May 2013, 06:57:39 AM
You want an SdFkz 254 don't you Ithoriel?

All that wheelie-trackie wierdness! That strange beetle-come-rodent aura, that familiar wierdness that is wierdly familiar. That pinnacle of Austrian technology, Ithoriel. Doesn't it call to you in it's mottled greyness, asking to be reborn in shining silver? You want one don't you Itoriel? You want a dozen SdKfz 254s to swoop around your Eastern Front.

Me? No, I'm strictly Western Front and Italy. No SdKfz 254's for me, thank you. Wouldn't be seen dead with one of those ugly contraptions in MY army.

I do remember it was the subject of a "spot the vehicle from the close up" comptetition in Military Modelling sometime in the 1970s.

Fast on roads, unstoppable off road - you want one don't you Ithoriel? Tell them Ithoriel, tell them you want SdKfz 254s for your army. In fact, you want all 140 of them!
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: freddy326 on 29 May 2013, 08:43:03 AM
T-35, T-35!, T-35!!, T-35!!!, T-35!!!! :D
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Ithoriel on 29 May 2013, 12:43:12 PM
Alas, both the Sdkfz 254 and the T-35 are a little too early for my roughly Kursk era forces.

Though I can see the attraction of the T-35 if one is doing Barbarossa era actions - though possibly more realistic to portray it as a broken-down version "objective marker"  :)

The 254 is nicely eccentric - hadn't come across it before, so thanks - and the Germans had considerably more 254s than "Maus" tanks yet I've seen rather more of the latter than the former on the tabletop!
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Wulf on 29 May 2013, 03:07:54 PM
Quote from: freddy326 on 29 May 2013, 08:43:03 AM
T-35, T-35!, T-35!!, T-35!!!, T-35!!!! :D
One per turret.
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: fsn on 29 May 2013, 03:11:05 PM
Kursk, Smursk!

Barbarossa's where the COOL people are!  8)
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: freddy326 on 29 May 2013, 03:12:20 PM
you can never have too many turrets! :)
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: fsn on 29 May 2013, 03:43:21 PM
The T35 is beautifully ugly. Think it was ever paired with an Aerosan?

Regrettably, I think I'm talking myself into another spending round.

Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Hertsblue on 30 May 2013, 09:23:51 AM
Of far more use would be a model of the Steyr Kfz 70 light truck (not to be confused with the Krupp Protze six-wheeler of the same designation).

(http://www.v2rocket.com/start/deployment/steyr-2000-power.jpg)

Widely used in the panzergrenadier regiments, in appearance the vehicle looked something like the Horsch field car - but much bigger.
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: peterdong on 10 June 2013, 07:22:15 PM
+1 on T-35. I have to buy the expensive Minifigs version.   :o
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: barbarian on 11 June 2013, 08:50:42 AM
I'd like to see a Komsomolets armored tractor T-20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komsomolets_armored_tractor)
8)
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 11 June 2013, 10:12:24 PM
Hi

Quote from: barbarian on 11 June 2013, 08:50:42 AM
I'd like to see a Komsomolets armored tractor T-20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komsomolets_armored_tractor)
8)

I'd like to second that and add a request for a T-27 tankette. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-27)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: The_Shootist on 21 June 2013, 05:29:18 PM
Was wondering about early war ww2 German MG teams containing ZB26/30 ZB37 and some MG08, MG08/15. These would cover all those 4th 5th and 6th Welle Infantry Divisions.
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Bernie on 21 June 2013, 06:12:31 PM
How about the peasant horse drawn panje wagon used by all sides and the most common means of moving supplies for both sides for most of the war
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Hertsblue on 22 June 2013, 09:58:04 AM
How about the BA-10 heavy armoured car?

http://www.jsnovel.com/war/jsls/UploadPic/2008-11/200811891221724.jpg (http://www.jsnovel.com/war/jsls/UploadPic/2008-11/200811891221724.jpg)
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Mick Boddy on 27 June 2013, 08:38:48 PM
Could I but a request in for Pz 35t and a PzBefehiswg II command tank for early war Germans.
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Leon on 27 June 2013, 11:59:41 PM
Pz 38t is in the range, it's code GR128 on the website.  I'll add the Pz II command to the list.

8)
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 28 June 2013, 05:01:36 AM
Hi Leon

Already in holiday mode!! ;D ;D ;D

What a difference 3 years make.... said the actress to the bishop

Quote from: Mick Boddy on 27 June 2013, 08:38:48 PM
Could I but a request in for Pz 35t and a PzBefehiswg II command tank for early war Germans.

Quote from: Leon on 27 June 2013, 11:59:41 PM
Pz 38t is in the range, it's code GR128 on the website.  I'll add the Pz II command to the list.

8)

The earlier 35t is the one requested.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Leon on 28 June 2013, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 28 June 2013, 05:01:36 AM
Already in holiday mode!! ;D ;D ;D

The earlier 35t is the one requested.

Oops...  :-[  I'm going tomorrow, a bit of sunstroke should make me think clearer...  :D
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Leon on 25 July 2013, 02:20:56 AM
Votes added!

8)
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: NTM on 25 July 2013, 07:47:11 AM
What did the Pz II command look like not come across that one before, presumably similar the the Artillery observer version.
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 25 July 2013, 11:20:37 AM
Checked von Senger und Etterling - no mention of a command version of the Pnz II, and I've not heard of one.

IanS
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Ithoriel on 25 July 2013, 11:40:08 AM
I'm with ianrs54 - never come across mention of a Pz II command tank. Pz I and PzIII command tanks but not Pz II.
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: OldenBUA on 25 July 2013, 12:01:05 PM
The 'Encyclopedia of Tanks' by Duncan Crow and Robert J. Icks mentions a 1935 'PzBefWgRhB' command tank under the entry for the Pz II. Supposedly with 37mm gun and 2x MG. If it existed, it's a rare beast, indeed! Searching for it gives you exactly one hit on Google... Looks like a wrong reference to the first marks of the Pz III, I'd say.

But surely Mick will know what he had in mind?

Incidentally, in the early years, the Pz II was intented as the command tank for a platoon of Pz I's, but AFAIK this was the normal version, not a special one.
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: NTM on 25 July 2013, 12:15:57 PM
Sounds more like the command version of the 35t, which did exist, to me
I think in German docs the 35t and 38t were described as PzII or PzIII as that's what they were being used in the place of.
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Albie Bach on 25 July 2013, 01:31:54 PM
According to wwiivehicles.com, 200 Pz II Ausf B chassis were modified to Command versions. 96 were available for the invasion of Poland
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/tanks-light/pzkpfw-ii.asp (http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/tanks-light/pzkpfw-ii.asp)
EDIT - you have to click on the "Variants" or "Production" tabs

And here's a few pictures
http://mini-history.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05/panzerbefehlswagen-ii-ausf-b-operation.html (http://mini-history.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05/panzerbefehlswagen-ii-ausf-b-operation.html)

Is that the one?
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 25 July 2013, 01:43:17 PM
Not seen that un before.....Looks like a simple conversion job.

IanS
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Ithoriel on 25 July 2013, 04:35:33 PM
Well there you go! Not something I've ever seen before and not mentioned in any of the books I have on German armour.

I need to upgrade my library!!
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: The_Shootist on 20 August 2013, 01:29:41 PM
So its just a command cupola upgrade, very easy conversion.
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: BH62 on 18 September 2013, 12:24:24 PM
As I said to Leon few days ago, a WWII german army without Schwimmwagen is like cheese without red wine !  ;)
I propose to add a Scwimmwagen to the requests list.
BH62
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Leon on 26 June 2014, 04:10:24 AM
Votes added!

8)
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: Orcs on 09 July 2014, 12:54:26 AM
Quote from: Bernie on 21 June 2013, 06:12:31 PM
How about the peasant horse drawn panje wagon used by all sides and the most common means of moving supplies for both sides for most of the war

I have to agree The Panje Wagon was used all over the place and would also be usefull for earlier wars as well.

The T35 is avaliabel elswhere and has limited use on the table top and consequently limited comercial viability.
Title: Re: Russian and German items I'd like to see
Post by: FierceKitty on 09 July 2014, 01:27:47 AM
On the subject of Russian possibilities, isn't there some need of a couple of Boyar feudal cavalry to fight the Mongols?