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Wider Wargaming => Resources => Resources - Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Druzhina on 10 April 2013, 11:25:54 PM

Title: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Druzhina on 10 April 2013, 11:25:54 PM
Gilbertus Universalis, Austria, 2nd half of the 12th century (http://warfare.likamva.in/Medieval/Gilbertus_Universalis.htm)
. Siege of Jerusalem (http://warfare.likamva.in/Medieval/Gilbertus_Universalis-Siege_of_Jerusalem.htm)
. Blinding of Sedekiah (http://warfare.likamva.in/Medieval/Gilbertus_Universalis-Blinding_Sedekiah.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=8992&d=1365634259)
MIRROR SITE:
Gilbertus Universalis (http://warfare2.netai.net/Medieval/Gilbertus_Universalis.htm)
. Siege of Jerusalem (http://warfare2.netai.net/Medieval/Gilbertus_Universalis-Siege_of_Jerusalem.htm)
. Blinding of Sedekiah (http://warfare2.netai.net/Medieval/Gilbertus_Universalis-Blinding_Sedekiah.htm)


Mosaner Psalter, mid 12th century - Herod orders the massacre of the innocents (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval2/Mosaner_Psalter-Herod_orders_the_massacre_of_the_innocents-12C.htm) or mirror (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval2/Mosaner_Psalter-Herod_orders_the_massacre_of_the_innocents-12C.htm)

Druzhina
Illustrations of Soldiers (http://warfare.co.nf/Franks/index.htm)
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Techno on 11 April 2013, 05:23:00 AM
Another good find D.
But showing my almost complete historical ignorance ......the soldiers shown look my idea of Normans (?)
Seeing as this artist appears to have lived 600-700 years (I think) after the events portrayed, would he have been drawing on the look of soldiers around his own period ?
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick ?
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: OldenBUA on 11 April 2013, 06:49:00 AM
Quote from: Techno on 11 April 2013, 05:23:00 AM
would he have been drawing on the look of soldiers around his own period ?

Yes. That's almost a given for illustrations from the medieval period.
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Techno on 11 April 2013, 07:15:07 AM
Aha !!.....Thanks 'O'. :)
Cheers - Phil.

Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 April 2013, 07:22:02 AM
Wow
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Druzhina on 12 April 2013, 04:49:44 AM
In the above, Gilbert Universalis is the author. The name of the work is not specified in the source (it may be the Glossa ordinaria), but works are often known by the name of the author.  Being manuscripts, later copies are made by a calligrapher(s) and illustrator(s). The original work may not even have been illustrated. Sometimes the illustrations may be based on earlier versions but often not.
Gilbert died in 1134 so only a little before the date of this copy. He was Bishop of London (so no connection with Austria).

Druzhina
Illustrations of Soldiers (http://warfare.co.nf/index.htm)
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Techno on 12 April 2013, 07:08:44 AM
Thanks D !!
Cheers - Phil.
Title: The Hortus Deliciarum by Herrad of Landsberg
Post by: Druzhina on 18 April 2013, 03:42:35 AM
Late 12th century Franks in The Hortus Deliciarum by Herrad of Landsberg, 1185 (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3.htm)
. Goliath (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-1.htm)
. The three Magi (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-2.htm)
. Parable of the vigneron homicides (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-3.htm)
. Joshua's Battle Against the Amalekites (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-4.htm)
. Assault on the City of Dan (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-5.htm)
. Battle Between Greed and Generosity (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-6.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=7364&d=1349412553)

MIRROR SITE
Late 12th century Franks in The Hortus Deliciarum by Herrad of Landsberg, 1185 (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3.htm)
. Goliath (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-1.htm)
. The three Magi (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-2.htm)
. Parable of the vigneron homicides (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-3.htm)
. Joshua's Battle Against the Amalekites (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-4.htm)
. Assault on the City of Dan (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-5.htm)
. Battle Between Greed and Generosity (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval/Hortus_Deliciarum-p3-6.htm)

Druzhina
Illustrations of Soldiers (http://warfare.likamva.in/Medieval/index.htm)
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 April 2013, 05:40:33 AM
Great stuff again sir.
Title: Knights on a bronze and gilt fragment from the Temple Pyx
Post by: Druzhina on 25 April 2013, 12:57:47 AM
Knights on a bronze and gilt fragment from the Temple Pyx, possibly German, mid 12th century (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval/Temple_Pyx_Bronze.htm) or mirror (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval/Temple_Pyx_Bronze.htm)

(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9095&d=1366850324)

Druzhina
Illustrations of Soldiers (http://warfare.likamva.in/index.htm)
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 April 2013, 05:27:44 AM
The workmanship on that! How many man hours to make? Some poor bloke in a medieval workshop, hope he was paid well!
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: OldenBUA on 25 April 2013, 06:35:34 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 25 April 2013, 05:27:44 AM
The workmanship on that! How many man hours to make? Some poor bloke in a medieval workshop, hope he was paid well!

You'd have to ask Techno about that, no? And he has to do them 10 times smaller!
Title: Bury Bible
Post by: Druzhina on 10 May 2013, 02:29:19 AM
Bury Bible, Jeremiah / Soldiers Attack Jerusalem, Bury St Edmunds, England, c.1130-1135 (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval2/Bury_Bible-f245v.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9171&d=1368062594)
Drawings of, & notes on, 12th century infantrymen by Ian Heath - based on the Bury Bible (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval2/Feudal-22-25-Infantrymen-12C.htm)

MIRROR SITE
Bury Bible, Jeremiah / Soldiers Attack Jerusalem, Bury St Edmunds, England, c.1130-1135 (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval2/Bury_Bible-f245v.htm)
Drawings of, & notes on, 12th century infantrymen by Ian Heath - based on the Bury Bible (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval2/Feudal-22-25-Infantrymen-12C.htm)

Druzhina
Illustrations of Soldiers (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval2/index.htm)
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 May 2013, 08:47:09 AM
Beautiful
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Druzhina on 28 May 2013, 03:43:53 AM
Martyrdom of St. Thomas of Canterbury
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=8445&d=1359016651)
The Murder of Thomas Becket, Wall Painting in Santa Maria de Terrassa, Catalonia, Spain, c1180-1200 (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval2/Tomas_Becket-Santa_Maria_de_Terrassa-c1180-1200.htm)

MIRROR SITE
The Murder of Thomas Becket, Wall Painting in Santa Maria de Terrassa, Catalonia, Spain, c1180-1200 (http://warfare.uphero.com/Medieval2/Tomas_Becket-Santa_Maria_de_Terrassa-c1180-1200.htm)

Druzhina
Illustrations of Soldiers (http://warfare.atspace.eu/Medieval/index.htm)
Title: Re: 12th Century Illustrations
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 May 2013, 10:03:34 AM
There are also aenglish versions of this:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=murder+of+thomas+becket&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nYCkUdaHJoOn0QX0yID4Cg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=768&bih=928#biv=i%7C1%3Bd%7CONO_HG7L_EoUTM%3A (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=murder+of+thomas+becket&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nYCkUdaHJoOn0QX0yID4Cg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=768&bih=928#biv=i%7C1%3Bd%7CONO_HG7L_EoUTM%3A)
Title: Martyrdom of St. Thomas of Canterbury
Post by: Druzhina on 28 May 2013, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 28 May 2013, 10:03:34 AM
There are also aenglish versions of this:

Of course, being an English event, there are plenty. It is foreign examples that are rarer.

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare.likamva.in/index.htm)