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Title: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Charon on 24 March 2013, 11:33:30 AM
Following on from my "starting the war of 1866" topic ( http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6071.0.html ) my group and I placed an order which we collected at Warfare in November. As only two of us paint, I was given the Prussians to do while my mate has the Austrians. Finally, this morning, I finished the last of the figures...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8105/8584650881_3cec127270.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75366718@N05/8584650881/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/75366718@N05/8584650881/)
The overall force (still need to buy another brigade of infantry).

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8369/8584649517_60baf62349.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75366718@N05/8584649517/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/75366718@N05/8584649517/)

The Kaiser!

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8584646407_8b3d44f88a.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75366718@N05/8584646407/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/75366718@N05/8584646407/)
Cavalry Brigade

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8584644015_fa460be0ea.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75366718@N05/8584644015/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/75366718@N05/8584644015/)

Corps artillery and light cavalry regiment

Now to start on the Timecast buildings!
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 March 2013, 11:56:42 AM
Superb! Knocks mine into a cocked hat!
8)
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: mollinary on 24 March 2013, 12:10:46 PM
Beautiful painting Charon.  The King on the command stand is a triumph!  :o =D> =D> You really do justice to the figures, and I love the basing as well.   But, in Colombo style, one last question........... You seem to have painted the charging Cuirassier figure as Dragoons, do you not like the dragoon figure?

Mollinary 
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Steve J on 24 March 2013, 12:15:14 PM
A really very nice looking force their Charon 8). Can't wait to see the Austrians :).
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: petercooman on 24 March 2013, 01:00:26 PM
Awesome!!
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Charon on 24 March 2013, 01:21:42 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 24 March 2013, 12:10:46 PM
Beautiful painting Charon.  The King on the command stand is a triumph!  :o =D> =D> You really do justice to the figures, and I love the basing as well.   But, in Colombo style, one last question........... You seem to have painted the charging Cuirassier figure as Dragoons, do you not like the dragoon figure?

Mollinary  

I wanted variety?   :-S

Actually thought I'd ordered Dragoons, but must have actually ordered Cuirassiers! Well spotted! Hopefully it shouldn't matter too much? Oh and should be King, not Kaiser!



Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: mollinary on 24 March 2013, 01:44:34 PM
I wouldn't think it matters at all. They look great, and it was only because I know this range like the back of my hand that I asked the question!  Will you be going for a full corps eventually, with the Jagers and 12pdr?

Mollinary
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: mollinary on 24 March 2013, 01:45:54 PM
By the way, will we be seeing you at SALUTE? 

Mollinary
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Charon on 24 March 2013, 01:51:01 PM
The eventual aim is a corps, with Jager btn. I was going to head up to Salute, but was made redundant a couple of weeks ago  =) so I'm not sure if I'll make it now - all depends what happens on the job front really!
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: mollinary on 24 March 2013, 01:56:55 PM
Really sorry to hear that,  I hope you manage to get something sorted soon. If you do manage to get to SALUTE, do call in at The Continental Wars Society demonstration game and say hello, we 1866ers need to stick together.

Best,

Mollinary
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Charon on 24 March 2013, 02:07:12 PM
Most definitely will  ;)
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Bernie on 24 March 2013, 03:51:32 PM
Stunning painting and basing

Real labour of love

Sorry to hear about the job - hope you find something soon

Bernie
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: mollinary on 24 March 2013, 04:20:43 PM
Charon,

Just had another closer look at these...... Are those infantry flags hand painted?   If so, wow, respect!   I have to go for printed paper, I just cannot do this sort of thing any more.

Mollinary
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 March 2013, 04:23:18 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 24 March 2013, 01:56:55 PM
Really sorry to hear that,  I hope you manage to get something sorted soon. If you do manage to get to SALUTE, do call in at The Continental Wars Society demonstration game and say hello, we 1866ers need to stick together.

Best,

Mollinary

Do I count, I'm 19th Century but not really 1866, only one corps of Saxons...!  ;)
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Charon on 24 March 2013, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: Bernie on 24 March 2013, 03:51:32 PM
Stunning painting and basing

Real labour of love

Sorry to hear about the job - hope you find something soon

Bernie


Thanks Bernie, they're based for the "Trapped like a Fox" rules - you might have heard of them  ;)
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Charon on 24 March 2013, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 24 March 2013, 04:20:43 PM
Charon,

Just had another closer look at these...... Are those infantry flags hand painted?   If so, wow, respect!   I have to go for printed paper, I just cannot do this sort of thing any more.

Mollinary

I'm afraid not, the flags are the cast ones, I've just bought some of the Baccus flags, stuck them on to the metal flag and then painted over them to conceal the paper's edge. If you look closely you'll notice, but at arms length they look ok.
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Charon on 24 March 2013, 05:28:28 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 24 March 2013, 11:56:42 AM
Superb! Knocks mine into a cocked hat!
8)

Don't think so, but thanks anyway! Looking at the pictures you posted of your FPW stuff gave me the inspiration to keep going
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: nikharwood on 24 March 2013, 06:09:13 PM
Very nice, Charon, very nice  8)
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: mollinary on 24 March 2013, 06:44:54 PM
Well, I thought the flags were the cast on ones, hence why I thought you had hand painted them.  You are right in saying I would never have noticed, nor would I have believed they would look so good.  Well done!

Mollinary
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Leon on 24 March 2013, 07:07:01 PM
These are excellent!

8)
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: kev1964 on 24 March 2013, 07:45:13 PM
Excellent work, really stunning,  good luck on the job front,

kev
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Hertsblue on 25 March 2013, 10:04:42 AM
Excellent work, Charon. And the command-stand is first class. What formation does this force represent - brigade, division, corps?  :)
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Charon on 25 March 2013, 01:51:10 PM
It's one brigade short of a corps. (Which by a peculiar coincidence also sums up my mental state!)

Need 6 more battalions of infantry, one battalion of Jager and I'm there. With the Trapped Like a Fox campaign rules you ideally need a Corps (although you can scale down if you wish).
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: mollinary on 25 March 2013, 02:18:55 PM
Think you might need a few more batteries there as well.  Prussian Corps tend to have about 15 Batteries in 1866, 6 x 4pdr Rifled, 4 x 6 pdr Rifled, and 5 x 12pdr smoothbore.

Mollinary
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Charon on 25 March 2013, 03:38:21 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 25 March 2013, 02:18:55 PM
Think you might need a few more batteries there as well.  Prussian Corps tend to have about 15 Batteries in 1866, 6 x 4pdr Rifled, 4 x 6 pdr Rifled, and 5 x 12pdr smoothbore.

Mollinary

Quite right, I do need another 4 batteries for the second infantry division (and another light cavalry rgt). Not too sure about the Corps reserve artillery yet - it may unbalance our games.
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 March 2013, 03:56:13 PM
The artillery reserves in 1866 were so badly handled that they won't unbalance the game, you'll just be waiting for them to turn up!  ;D
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 25 March 2013, 04:12:13 PM
Excellent work!
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: Techno on 25 March 2013, 05:16:58 PM
Great work !! :-bd
Cheers - Phil. (Good luck on the job hunting.)
Title: Re: 1866 Prussians
Post by: mollinary on 25 March 2013, 06:25:47 PM
Quote from: Charon on 25 March 2013, 03:38:21 PM
Quite right, I do need another 4 batteries for the second infantry division (and another light cavalry rgt). Not too sure about the Corps reserve artillery yet - it may unbalance our games.
Hi Charon,  I understand your reservations, but I would recommend you go with the actual OOB, and propose the following minor clarifications/amendments to the rules.  Three categories of artillery I) Heavy artillery (Austrian 8pdr, Prussian 6 pdr); II) Field artillery ( Prussian and Austrian 4pdr), and a new category iii) Smoothbore artillery (Prussian 12pdr).  The latter, being short barrelled and light, had very limited range, so max range of only 1Square. 

Second, given that Prussians withdrew to resupply, and Austrians didn't, suggest you use the 6 on the dice supply wagon rule for the Prussians only.

Third, all Austrian batteries, as well as being good, had eight guns instead of six. If you do not think the reduce die roll by one is enough to reflect this ( and bear in mind the Saxons get this modifier and their batteries had only six guns). Then for every three Austrian batteries in the OOB (24 guns) add an extra gun model.

I think the above will give the balance you are looking for.

Mollinary