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Title: Super glue allergy
Post by: Sean Clark on 19 March 2013, 10:03:28 AM
I seem to have developed an allergy to super glue which makes certain hobby tasks problematic.

Anyone else have the same problem and have any ideas how to get around it? I have found the same problem with the cheaper as well as the expensive stuff. Makes gluing guns and vehicles together a painful experience  :(

Sean
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: goat major on 19 March 2013, 10:20:03 AM
I haven't got the same problem - but have you tried using Super Glue Gel ? it seems to be less smelly/messy than normal super glue so might not affect you as badly ?
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: Steve J on 19 March 2013, 10:29:01 AM
How does it affect you if I may be so bold?
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: Techno on 19 March 2013, 11:17:55 AM
If the worst comes to the worst Windle, a box of 'chuckaway' latex (or non-latex) gloves ought to solve the problem.
Box of a hundred around £7-£10 from a pharmacy....Probably find them cheaper on the net.
AND you don't HAVE to use them just the once if you're reasonably careful.
I use them sometimes with the putties that I find particularly messy to mix with bare fingers.
Hope that helps.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: ryman1 on 19 March 2013, 11:50:40 AM
I second what Techno says, and it needn't hurt the wallet - I've been using the same pair for a year or more (urggh I know), but I do wash my hands before dinner. ;)
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: petercooman on 19 March 2013, 07:19:31 PM
What about super glue putty?

For smaller models it might be a real pain, but maybe still usable!
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: Techno on 19 March 2013, 10:15:40 PM
What's that then Peter ?
Not heard of that before.
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: petercooman on 19 March 2013, 11:54:06 PM
Quote from: Techno on 19 March 2013, 10:15:40 PM
What's that then Peter ?
Not heard of that before.
Cheers - Phil.

Well it's an epoxy putty. much like green stuff, but specially made to glue things. The original use is for plumbing and stuff like that, but if you make your parts small enough it might work. Don't know if it would be good for it though, i have only used it for actual plumbing :p

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipng-Mighty-Putty-mightyputty-resin-clay-power-putty-magic-putty-adhesive-POWERFULL-EPOXY-ADHESIVE-SUPER/658982282.html


Also, to windle poons, if you are allergic to super glue, have you considered using 2 part epoxy glue as an alternative? Maybe that'll give you no problems...
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: Techno on 20 March 2013, 07:52:43 AM
Thanks Peter. :)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: petercooman on 20 March 2013, 12:10:28 PM
You're welcome!

Could be used for sculpting but you have to be fast :p

Setting takes about 5 minutes or less
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: Techno on 20 March 2013, 01:01:27 PM
Hi Peter.
Sounds as though it's definitely a possibility for certain jobs. ;)
What can drive me round the bend when making the little chaps sometimes, is that I can only do a few minutes work on a model...Then have to leave it for half an hour to an hour before I can return to it....When what I really want to do is 'snap my fingers' to set the last lot of work....and go straight back to do the next bit.

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: petercooman on 20 March 2013, 11:53:37 PM
Quote from: Techno on 20 March 2013, 01:01:27 PM
Hi Peter.
Sounds as though it's definitely a possibility for certain jobs. ;)
What can drive me round the bend when making the little chaps sometimes, is that I can only do a few minutes work on a model...Then have to leave it for half an hour to an hour before I can return to it....When what I really want to do is 'snap my fingers' to set the last lot of work....and go straight back to do the next bit.

Cheers - Phil.

So you'll want this kind then ;)

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Super-Glue-2-oz-Quick-Fix-Epoxy-Putty-Stick-12-Pack-15400/202807366#.UUpLsleKF5E

Hardens in 5 minutes and cures in 24 hours :p
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: Techno on 21 March 2013, 07:06:16 AM
 :-\ Hmmm.
Thanks Peter. :-bd
I think I've just recently bought something pretty similar !
It's called "Instant Putty"...From the makers of "Instant Mould".
This particular one goes off in about 10 minutes (though it does claim to set in 5)......, but it is a bit of a pain as A)...It's black, so it's rather difficult to see what I'm doing, especially at the smaller scales...and B) It's in a 'fattish' roll, so it's difficult/impossible to cut off very small amounts, which is what I really need to do.....Otherwise it becomes very wasteful and pricey to use. (Mind you, I probably waste 70% of the green stuff I mix, as I can't mix even that in small enough quantities ! Don't mind that so much, as it's relatively cheap.)

I wonder if the one above is in a thinner roll  :-\...which would be better !....If it's a lighter colour, that would help too.
I'll do some investigating. ;)

Cheers - Phil.

Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: petercooman on 21 March 2013, 11:49:00 AM
Send some emails and state that you are a big company, that uses it in tonnes, maybe they will give you some free samples  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: Techno on 21 March 2013, 12:15:20 PM
You're sneaky Peter. ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: petercooman on 21 March 2013, 12:33:55 PM
Show them your gw reference :p
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: WeeWars on 21 March 2013, 08:17:56 PM
Unibond Repair Express Power Putty -- cures white -- also comes in 6 x 5g doses for the same price

http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/decorating-supplies/fillers-putty/putty/Unibond-Repair-Express-Power-Putty-12599206?skuId=13119912

Are any of these DIY putties better than Milliput?
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: WeeWars on 21 March 2013, 09:22:17 PM
Or this:

http://www.transtools.co.uk/fixings-hardwares/sealants-and-adhesives/builders/everbuild-stick-2-epoxy-putty-50gm
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: Sean Clark on 21 March 2013, 09:26:41 PM
The effect is similar to hayfever but only worse. Eyes watering, nose running, sneezing.

i'll try some of the suggestions, thanks guys.

Sean
Title: Re: Super glue allergy
Post by: Steve J on 21 March 2013, 09:51:16 PM
QuoteThe effect is similar to hayfever but only worse. Eyes watering, nose running, sneezing.

You are most likely reacting to the fumes given off by the superglue. Try using the glue in a well ventilated space and see how you get on. If the symptoms continue even when used in said space, I'd strongly suggest you stop using superglue.

Having been in charge of H&S at work (where we use loads of cyanoacrylate based glues) you might have developed an 'allergy' to the glue, one which in all likely hood will not go away (I won't bore you with the details as to why). You might also be damaging your lungs more so than normal given your current 'external' reaction to the glue.

Sorry to sound like a doom merchant but I have seen the effects of chemical intolerance at work.