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Title: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: cameronian on 16 March 2013, 09:31:06 PM
February of this year saw a refight of the frontier battle of Nachod with Ramming's VI Austrian Corps attempting to stop Steinmetz's V Prussian corps debouching through the Nachod defile and across the Metau river into Bohemia. Nachod was a Corps-sized battle, with a Prussian advance guard holding on in the face of determined attacks by the Austrians, more Prussians marched to the sound of the guns, and by the end of the day both sides had a Corps on the battlefield although the Austrians still outnumbered the Prussians by about 9,000 men (33,000 to the Prussian 24,000)

The game was held over two days at the Old Manor in Lundin Links, Charles Grant, Colin Jack and myself upheld the honour of Austria, John 'DZ' Drewienkiewicz and Angus Konstam (whose great gfather was a gunner at Koniggratz) the Prussian.
The game was fought over purpose built terrain modelled from contemporary maps, the figures 10mm PENDRAKEN, the rules FIELD OF BATTLE (1866 VARIANT), scale 1" represents 65yds, 1 figure represents 70 men/horses, 1 gun represents 1 battery.

FOB is card driven, a mechanism which lends itself to this period perfectly, a photo of some of the cards appears below.

The photo below (terrain) gives an idea of the table; top right is Nachod, the main road snakes southwards from Nachod and over the Mettau, through Wysokow and exits the board via Skalitz and on over the Aupa. Looping SE to NW is the railway embankment, centre left is the Rowensker Teich (a marshy lake), bottom right is Wenzlburg and to its left the linked villages of Prowodow and Schonow.


Title: Nachod 1866 part 2
Post by: cameronian on 16 March 2013, 09:56:34 PM
The battle started with Hertweg's brigade, under covering fire from two batteries of 4pdrs, attempt to capture wenzlburg. Time and again throughout the two days of play, the brigade stormed forward, sometimes getting a fingerhold in the village, but eventually forced back by fire from the needle gun. It was with some dismay that on Sunday morning DZ saw Hertweg's brigade reform and launch another attack on Wenzelsberg. Worse, the battered Prussian 17th Brigade was forced to retire to the high ground behind the village and the Austrian 25th Jaegers duly occupied the village, however a feature of FOB 1866 is that although casualties are rallied back, losses are noted, and when they reach a certain point the regiment or brigade can break and run, this is what happened and Hertwegh's men finally broke and fled the field, leaving Wenzelsberg to the Prussians.
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 2
Post by: petercooman on 16 March 2013, 10:02:38 PM
Very nice!!
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 2
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 March 2013, 10:10:57 PM
Lovely reports.
Title: Nachod 1866 part 3
Post by: cameronian on 16 March 2013, 10:14:51 PM
As the battle for Wenzlburg hotted up, Austrian reinforcements arrived, Jonak's brigade from the east and Waldstatten's brigade from the south. Actually, they weren't a particularly serious threat, Jonak spent most of the weekend resolutely refusing to move, as Colin's run of bad dice just ran and ran,while Waldstatten's edged its way forward to the outskirts of Wyskow, then spent most of Sunday failing to advance any further. This was my fault, I should have allowed them to appeal their moves to Ramming whose better command die would almost certainly have got things going. Over on the Austrian left Charles sent Maj. Gen. Rosenweig's brigade into the curve of the railway embankment near Starkoc, where a hill dominated that section of the battlefield, to the north-west of Wyskow. That's the railway curve in the picture below.
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 3
Post by: petercooman on 16 March 2013, 10:28:29 PM
Splendid!
Title: Nachod 1866 part 4
Post by: cameronian on 16 March 2013, 10:34:26 PM
Then the Austrians deployed their "death star", the VI Corps reserve artillery, augmented by brigade artillery and a spare horse battery, unlimbered to the west of Wyskow, where it had a good field of fire over the centre of the battlefield. The Austrian "grand battery" of 4 & 8pdrs then eviscerated the Prussian infantry one battalion or gun battery at a time, until the defenders were either pulverised or had pulled back to shelter behind any convenient wood or village they could find. This would have been decisive if the Austrians had been able to launch a co-ordinated infantry assault on the Prussian centre, around Wysokow. Unfortunately for them when the moment came they simply couldn't get their troops to move forward. DZ continued to harry them as best he could, sending a dragoon regiment in a death ride charge to pin Jonak's command, and forming a new gun position on the hill behind Wyskow which did its best to return the fire of the Austrian guns.
Over to the left Charles worked the cuirassiers and lancers of the Austrian Reserve Cavalry (Solms and Schindlocker's brigades) around the northern flank of the Prussian line. The plan was to cross the Mettau River and capture Nachod, but the river turned out to be unfordable. A Prussian infantry regiment (the 52nd) had moved north from Nachod to block their path, and it deployed between the river and the hill. The stand-off there continued for a few hours of gaming time, until the Prussians' Corps cavalry arrived to threaten the Austrian horse. In the picture below you can see the Austrian cavalry in their outflanking move. Eventually a combination of Prussian cavalry attacks and infantry firepower did for the Austrians, with the exception of one stalwart regiment of cuirassiers, who effectively demolished the Prussian cavalry through repeatedly charging it, despite the seemingly hopeless odds. This though, didn't really influence the main fight, apart from keeping a useful Prussian infantry regiment away from the main battlefield.
Title: Nachod 1866 part 5
Post by: cameronian on 16 March 2013, 10:55:08 PM
As Hertweg's brigade collapsed on the right flank on Sunday morning as a result of cumulative losses, so with Rosenweig's command on the left. It had taken heavy casualties from the two Prussian regiments (the 46th and 47th) advancing south through woods towards the railway. At one point Angus planned to pull the Prussians back to form a new defensive line behind a wood, but the stern unspoken disapproval from DZ (a retired Major-General) "encouraged" him to opt for a more aggressive stance. He was quite right. There was a rule that artillery can't fire on targets within 6" of their own troops. This meant that by advancing closer to Rosenweig's men, the Prussians could avoid getting pulverised by the Austrian grand battery. They were also able to make the most of their superior needlegun firepower, and soon Rosenweig's prized unit, the elite 4th Hoch & Deutschmeister Rgt. broke and fled, they were soon followed by the rest of the brigade, leaving a somewhat surprised Prussian commander to chase them from the field.

This was the turning point. The Austrian left was shattered, as was their right. With the Prussians closing in on the centre from both flanks the rest of Ramming's Corps was left with little option but to pull back to the south leaving the Prussians in control of the field. The battle was deemed a Prussian tactical victory, the game a success and a thoroughly enjoyable weekend was had by all.
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: Shecky on 17 March 2013, 01:19:31 AM
You know, since you've already played the game and won't be needing the terrain any more, I'd be glad to take it off your hands. :)

Seriously, that is a nice table.
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: mollinary on 17 March 2013, 07:38:06 AM
Great report, Cam!   A photo of this beautiful terrain seems to have found its way into the book - wonder how that happened?  Could it be because Dz emerged victorious?  What an uncharitable thought!   Sorry I missed it though,  it is a great looking game.

Mollinary
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: Steve J on 17 March 2013, 08:06:48 AM
Great report Cam and I must say and absolutely wonderful table to look at 8). I'd love to creat such a table for future games but I know that currently I do not have the storage space :(. Out of interest how big was the table?
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: cameronian on 17 March 2013, 09:54:53 AM
Quote from: mollinary on 17 March 2013, 07:38:06 AM
Great report, Cam!   A photo of this beautiful terrain seems to have found its way into the book - wonder how that happened?  Could it be because Dz emerged victorious?  What an uncharitable thought!   Sorry I missed it though,  it is a great looking game.

Mollinary

LOL, you might very well think that Bernard but I couldn't possibly comment  ;D
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: cameronian on 17 March 2013, 09:56:34 AM
Quote from: Steve J on 17 March 2013, 08:06:48 AM
Great report Cam and I must say and absolutely wonderful table to look at 8). I'd love to creat such a table for future games but I know that currently I do not have the storage space :(. Out of interest how big was the table?

'Bout 8' x 10', comes in 6 sections, a bugger to set up but gratifying none the less, we're putting it on at Carronade this year so if you want to see it head for Falkirk in May.
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: Steve J on 17 March 2013, 11:39:37 AM
A bit far from Bristol but I look forward to seeing plenty of pics. That's a big table BTW and I'm not sure my back would appreciate leaning over such a bog table :(. However I think I could endure the pain for a one off game just for the pleasure of playing on such a great looking table ;).

Having seen your pics I'm not very interested in exploting the FPW in more detail, especially as I have loads of 2mm stuff that would be perfect for this. Also "To the Last Gaiter Button" rules look very interesting so something to consider for the future :).
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: Shedman on 17 March 2013, 11:53:24 AM
It looks fantastic

I see that the Continental Wars Society is putting on Nachod at Salute in 10mm - is this the game?

Alan
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: cameronian on 17 March 2013, 12:00:57 PM
No, John 'DZ' Drewienkiewicz and Andrew Brentnall are putting their game on at salute, launching their new book at same time.
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: mollinary on 17 March 2013, 12:21:42 PM
Alan,

Cameronian is right, John Dz and I will, with a bit of help from our friends, be putting on the Continental Wars Society demonstration game at SALUTE. It will consist of Pendraken figures, at the last count about 2,800 of them at a figure scale of about 1:20.  The rules will be an adaptation of Rich Hasenauer's Regimental Fire and Fury that we have been working on for the last nine months.  The book Cameronian refers to is "Wargaming in History Volume 8, The Austro-Prussian War: the Opening Battles". It covers Gitschin, Trautenau and two variants on Skalitz as well as Nachod.

Mollinary (Andrew)
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: maciek on 17 March 2013, 12:50:26 PM
Absolutely stunning game !
=D>
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: Steve J on 17 March 2013, 12:51:52 PM
The book sounds interesting Andrew. I can't make Salute so please take plenty of photos :).
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: mollinary on 17 March 2013, 12:56:20 PM
Hi Steve,

I am sure plenty of photos will be taken, but I think I will have my hands full running the game.  That said, it is probably for the best, I am a rubbish photographer! 

Andrew
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: cameronian on 17 March 2013, 02:10:40 PM
The Pendraken team always take loads, especially when its Pendraken figures.
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: Hertsblue on 17 March 2013, 04:00:13 PM
We'll be at Salute too, so hope to see you there. And I'm highly impressed with the Nachod game. Was this your "fleece over polystyrene" terrain?
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: nikharwood on 17 March 2013, 04:23:46 PM
Superb looking table  8)
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: whiteoak on 17 March 2013, 05:24:58 PM
I'll be at Salute - helping out on the CWS stand - Ralph has an CWS polo shirt for me. I didn't make last years show due to illness, so I'm specially looking forward to this year.

Best regards

Kelvin White
Ashendon


Quote from: mollinary on 17 March 2013, 12:56:20 PM
Hi Steve,

I am sure plenty of photos will be taken, but I think I will have my hands full running the game.  That said, it is probably for the best, I am a rubbish photographer! 

Andrew
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: mollinary on 17 March 2013, 05:45:23 PM
Look forward to seeing you there, Kelvin.


Mollinary
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: cameronian on 17 March 2013, 07:23:36 PM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 17 March 2013, 04:00:13 PM
We'll be at Salute too, so hope to see you there. And I'm highly impressed with the Nachod game. Was this your "fleece over polystyrene" terrain?

No, this was a lovingly crafted one off - hence the search for a simpler system ... like fleece over poly !!
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: lekw on 18 March 2013, 12:23:45 AM
Thank you so much for sharing fantastic report and pictures.
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: lekw on 18 March 2013, 12:29:36 AM
Pre ordered Wargaming in History Volume 8, The Austro-Prussian War: the Opening Battles as well. Looks like a fantastic title and from what I can tell some very nice pictures!!!! Can't wait.
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: mollinary on 18 March 2013, 06:37:55 AM
Thanks lekw, you may be our first reader!  I hope you enjoy it, there are certainly some great photos in it (I can say this, as I didn't take any of them!).

Best,

Mollinary
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: tschuma on 19 March 2013, 01:59:30 PM
Stunning!  I have enough troops paint to do this battle, now I just need to do the terrain.  I hope it turns out as good as yours!

Tom
Title: Re: Nachod 1866 part 1
Post by: holdfast on 22 March 2013, 11:22:41 AM
For Nachod at Salute we will be going up a level of detail from Cameronian's excellent terrain, which as Mollinary observes, deserved and got an honourable mention in the book. Our terrain is not purpose built, but rather consists of terrain tiles from Realistic Modelling Services. The downside of this is that there are more lines where terrain pieces join one another, the upside is that we are able to portray the different gradients, which are significant. We wanted to do the terrain by throwing a green tablecloth over some books in the time-honoured and much preferred way, but the hill/ridge is so big that no-one had enough books and DVD cases are too thin.
We use 12 bases to a battalion, which enables us to represent the formations so that a column looks significantly different to a reinforced firing line with 2 zug deployed, ie 2/3 of the unit deployed and 1/3 back as support.
We will set the board up so that the four key events, at four different points on the ground and at 4 different moments, are portrayed and the demo will take each one in turn and walk through it.
Hope t see youall there,