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Title: Early Saxon cyning conversion
Post by: irregularwars on 14 March 2013, 10:00:00 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FG621XpcsDM/UUJEqz0QDpI/AAAAAAAABG4/DrhQUHhIh9U/s1600/DSCN6039.JPG)

Just a teaser - a converted Pendraken Late Roman personality to lead my new Saxon warband.

http://irregularwars.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/10mm-saxon-cyning.html (http://irregularwars.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/10mm-saxon-cyning.html)
Title: Re: Early Saxon cyning conversion
Post by: Steve J on 15 March 2013, 08:15:09 AM
Nice 8). I'm planning on doing some conversions for my Saxons, but this will most likely involve removing crests etc.
Title: Re: Early Saxon cyning conversion
Post by: Techno on 15 March 2013, 08:34:49 AM
Like it !! 8)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Early Saxon cyning conversion
Post by: Hertsblue on 15 March 2013, 09:01:18 AM
It's amazing how much difference a few surgically-altered figures can make to the look of an army. But I did originally read the title as "Early Saxon crying conversion. Must get myself a new pair of reading glasses!  :D
Title: Re: Early Saxon cyning conversion
Post by: mollinary on 15 March 2013, 09:57:45 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 15 March 2013, 09:01:18 AM
It's amazing how much difference a few surgically-altered figures can make to the look of an army. But I did originally read the title as "Early Saxon crying conversion. Must get myself a new pair of reading glasses!  :D

Funnily enough I read it as "cyning".  Unfortunately, I still haven't a clue what it means! :-\ :-\ :-\

Mollinary
Title: Re: Early Saxon cyning conversion
Post by: Steve J on 15 March 2013, 09:59:53 AM
QuoteUnfortunately, I still haven't a clue what it means!
The answer is on his Blog :). At least I learnt something useful today.
Title: Re: Early Saxon cyning conversion
Post by: OldenBUA on 15 March 2013, 10:13:18 AM
Pronounced with a hard 'c' (i.e. 'k') and a double o you get 'kooning'. Then the relationship with 'koning'/'König'/'king' will be more readily seen.

And yes, a good conversion. But I'm always amazed that people can do this with the little blighters!
Title: Re: Early Saxon cyning conversion
Post by: Steve J on 15 March 2013, 10:42:59 AM
And now I know how to pronounce it :).
Title: Re: Early Saxon cyning conversion
Post by: irregularwars on 15 March 2013, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: OldenBUA on 15 March 2013, 10:13:18 AM
Pronounced with a hard 'c' (i.e. 'k') and a double o you get 'kooning'. Then the relationship with 'koning'/'König'/'king' will be more readily seen.

Is that right?! I never realised the 'y' was pronounced as 'oo'. I have always read it as an 'i'. Four years of high-school German obviously made little impact on me but now that I see that, your explanation makes a lot of sense. :-\

Thanks for all the compliments gents.
Title: Re: Early Saxon cyning conversion
Post by: OldenBUA on 15 March 2013, 09:44:34 PM
Quote from: irregularwars on 15 March 2013, 06:13:33 PM
Is that right?! I never realised the 'y' was pronounced as 'oo'. I have always read it as an 'i'. Four years of high-school German obviously made little impact on me but now that I see that, your explanation makes a lot of sense. :-\

No, it isn't.  :P  Shows how much I know about this, anyway. The oo sound would be represented by an u, while the y is used for something like an i, but not quite.

Try the following link, where the y in the first (close) row is the sound in cyning. For König, it's the slashed o, and for koning it's the o, both in the third (close-mid) row.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowel_chart_with_audio