A mate of mine said today "hay man, saw this on Kickstarted. I've already put £50 in, it's finished but you can order them still"
I replied, "soz mate already have way too many projects"
So he said "no problem, here's some pics..." handed me his IPhone "... Nice aint they, I've for £50 inn"
As soon as I saw them I was jealous that he was getting something I wasn't (I'm the youngest sibling of 2). It appears to be a WW3 style game. Allies (west) Vr Russia in a star ship troupers style future, in 15mm. My jealousy took over...
"Let's add £25 ill chip I. £37.50 and half the lot!"
I'm sure you might think the same! So have a look!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227636741/metal-15mm-scifi-future-war-neo-british-miniatures
http://armiesarmy.blogspot.co.uk/?m=0
I love the RUSKs in the gas masks, they are on my list for a new 15mm terrorist/super villian army I have in mind, and the Neo brits are going to make good planetary defense forces for my alien invasion games.
I missed the KS as I was pretty skint, but I still plan on getting them as they are great figs!
The British/US (I note you said British, I reckon you ain't American?) remind me of Star Ship troopers. There was a SST game but the models were Pre painted and I wasn't keen. But if you had some bugs at 15mm!
Rules wise FUBAR or FOR? I was also thinking secrets of the third reich?
15mm though. Not Pendraken's 10mm loveliness...
All scales of Minis are equal in god's eyes.... :P :D
I don't get the point of having such nice and detailed Concept art and crappy-crap sculpts like these. :-\
Quote from: barbarian on 23 January 2013, 12:58:43 AM
I don't get the point of having such nice and detailed Concept art and crappy-crap sculpts like these. :-\
You no likey?
...For 15mms, I'm not that impressed.
Have a look here :
http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/modern-us-army.html
or here
http://dropshiphorizon.blogspot.it/2010/09/in-pipe-khurasan-15mm-spacers.html
Or here :
http://www.rebelminis.com/eafove.html
(sci-fi or modern...)
Nice!
The last link, perfect for tanks for my lot.
Quote from: barbarian on 23 January 2013, 12:58:43 AM
I don't get the point of having such nice and detailed Concept art and crappy-crap sculpts like these. :-\
They can't be that bad, he did manage to get fully funded on his kickstarter.....
Quote from: i_am_win on 23 January 2013, 11:54:09 PM
They can't be that bad, he did manage to get fully funded on his kickstarter.....
Yeah but that's no indication of quality.
They do look pretty ropey. Definitely at the 'budget' end of the market in terms of quality i'd say.
There are some really excellent 15mm figures out there at the moment.
Quote from: Luddite on 24 January 2013, 12:07:28 AM
They do look pretty ropey. Definitely at the 'budget' end of the market in terms of quality i'd say.
:-\
The detail Is a little bit on the 'soft' side....and some of the proportions seem a tad strange, perhaps.
As Lud indicates there are quite a few classier models to choose from in this scale....But also, as Win says, they got funded, so there must be enough folk out there who DO like them.
Depends on what the firm paid for them, I guess.
"You pays your money, and you takes your choice."
Cheers - Phil.
I'm not a fan of the 'Armies Army' style of sculpting either, would have been great in the '80s, but the bar has raised, just as it has in 10mm.
The links barbarian provided are the current bench mark, great sculpts (especially Khurasan) and a treat to paint.
Cheers,
Kev
Not bad, but I got an irrational hate to 15mm...
I did too until I pikced up some Splintered Light fantasy figures for my son. Now I am broke!
I think what you have to take into account is the keith is just starting the whole process of getting his lines together and sculpting. Yes the standards of 15mm are higher than before these days, but given time for his lines and skills to develop, he'll do fine. ;)
I'm sure that even he would agree that they could be better, but as a new mini concern, he's not done too bad so far.
I think what is important to remember is that we should support the small independent miniature companies, after all they always have been the backbone of the hobby for years, and even so you might not like what they do, they need the wargaming community to get behind them, not at them. :-\
Sure some of Khurasans stuff is top notch, but some is dire (Cheri Amour for example, and the "yorkshire" survivors in the werewolf set) too many people kiss Mr k's arse IMHO, and I find his endless touting for business on PMT tiresome. He has some great sculpts it's true, but he can afford to get the best sculpts, Armies Army is just one guy starting out....
I don't know mate.
My main pulsion to buy miniatures is often (if not always) the "beauty" of the miniature.
This is why I have stuff that I won't use, but couldn't resist to buy. I do Moderns in 28mm, I have an army for War of the Ring (yes, the one from GW), I have an army from Rackham' mass game, Ragnarock (RIP), plus 150+ zombies in 28mm. I could have done all this in 15mm.
I have a Late Roman army by Clib', only because of the miniatures.
Nothing to do with a ruleset, little to do with a period.
I think we all are a little like this (at various levels), otherwise we would play with tokens or wood cubes.
I think he found someone (maybe he did it himself, I don't know him) to draw beautiful concepts. Why not looking for a talented sculptor ?
Beautiful miniatures will always sell.
Sorry love the concept art but the miniatures dont impress me at all, the proportions arent right.
I admire the guy for having a go and he can sculpt better than me but i want be collecting them
Cheers,
Craig
Hey. it's horses for courses I guess! ;)
Absolutely right Win. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
See for me it's like Classic Dr Who. Are the sets perfect? No. Do the Aliens look fab? Not usually. Are all the actors top? Nope.
But it's the idea, the background, if I wanted a peace of are as a model, personally I would go for 25mm+ model. The reason I like 10mm so much is that the idea of these little guys being an army, feet pounding through mud, the zip of bullets over head, the explosions of mortar fire.
So the slight increase to 15 and yet they may even be less detailed than a Pendraken 10 doesn't bother me. If it was about quality of detail then 6mm and smaller would be pointless (not that im not saying there ain't nice 6mm models out there) Take my 10mm Doctor Who models as an example, they ain't amazing, I know that (first models, inc 25mm I ever sculpted tho!) but like the TV program, I can switch the quality detector off and Imagine Daleks rolling over bridges and into enemy territory, Cybermen strutting down hills, UNIT SMGs peppering the Daleks outer shell. And everyone who has seen my table covers in a time lord force heading towards the Daleks have all been very impressed.
Games workshop do good quality, but when £100 can get me one tank, and 20 men, this tiny force doesn't run my imagination wild.
What I'm saying is its about the setting, the amount of men, the imagination, the feel. Not so much the quality. I'm not saying quality ain't important at all, I'd rather have good than pants, but I can easy awe past that.