Hi there,
Just working on it for earning skills, needs lots of improvement (specially in the torso) but let me know your musings about it.
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1007/dscf1192d.jpg)
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1687/dscf1194k.jpg)
Not bad from what I can see. Certainly better than naything I could attempt!
Tomorrow I´ll try to get some better pics (have been enhanced) and to the Pyrrhus of Epeirus that I´m working on for a friend.
Looks good; may it earn you plenty! But the lance needs to be a bit longer, doesn't it?
Quote from: FierceKitty on 08 January 2013, 11:29:10 PM
Looks good; may it earn you plenty! But the lance needs to be a bit longer, doesn't it?
I´m glad to hear that! In fact, originally they are longer, but then I take a look to the lenght of the real Xyston, 3,6m, converted that to 1:144 and obtained that it must be 2,5, like in the image. Maybe it looks shorter due to its width.
That's about the length I was thinking of. I must have misjudged the model.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 08 January 2013, 11:56:20 PM
That's about the length I was thinking of. I must have misjudged the model.
Just measured again! 2,3 cm. Now I remember that I made it identical to the parthian kontos of Steve Barber models.
Quote from: Phobos on 08 January 2013, 11:54:04 PM
I´m glad to hear that! In fact, originally they are longer, but then I take a look to the lenght of the real Xyston, 3,6m, converted that to 1:144 and obtained that it must be 2,5, like in the image. Maybe it looks shorter due to its width.
You'll often have to 'cheat' a fraction with weapons Phobos.
All you can do is make it look as 'right as possible' within the limitations of the casting process.
Cheers - Phil.
Anyway, they look far longer than the average cavalry pendraken spear, so It´s ok IMHO.
As a figure....It looks 'right' to me Phobos....But I'm nothing like an historical expert.
So please don't take my word for it ! ;)
Cheers - Phil
One of the hetairoi and a conversion of the Carthaginian general into hellenistic general.
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6757/dscf1201ka.jpg)
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2062/74997240.png)
Very nicely done Phobos 8)
Really? I´m little... obsessive with it, and could redone a helmet 10 or more times. Indeed, Im wondering if redo the face of the companion...
Just a quick point, the neck on the General looks quite thin, which can cause potentially cause casting problems. The moulding process thins the model, so after a master mould, and then a production mould, it can sometimes be too thin to cast, or the head becomes very fragile.
8)
Are these for general release or for private consumption? Looking great btw!
Quote from: mad lemmey on 10 January 2013, 05:11:56 PM
Are these for general release or for private consumption? Looking great btw!
I begin that as a form of practising before starting "serious business", but if Leon wants it (The horses are pendraken, so I can´t sell it to any other) I´ll feel glad to sell them. Of course, after seriously improve it.
Quote from: Leon on 10 January 2013, 04:14:03 PM
Just a quick point, the neck on the General looks quite thin, which can cause potentially cause casting problems. The moulding process thins the model, so after a master mould, and then a production mould, it can sometimes be too thin to cast, or the head becomes very fragile.
8)
I take note of it, fixed with a little drop of GS :D
Really good Phobos !
Cheers - Phil
Wow they look good to me :D keep it up, well done,
Quote from: Phobos on 10 January 2013, 03:59:19 PM
Really? I´m little... obsessive with it, and could redone a helmet 10 or more times. Indeed, Im wondering if redo the face of the companion...
I really like the helmets. Very destinctive. :)
Superb!
Thanks to all you guys! really inspiring your support.
Also, I want to make a quick question to the military history experts here: In the most of manufacturers, heitaroi appears with boeotian helmet, and don´t know if using another model (thracian, macedonian, attic) could be right.
The sources I know of all show Boetian, but that does include later periods such as Roman mosaics ect. :-\
You could add one or two in others for variety I guess...
Been 20 years since I've thought about anything Alexandrian, sorry!
ML
Thanks ML! I started a thracian/phrygian one, bit not too much happy with it... I,m searching for more visual references, but seems that all the manufacturers decided to go with the boeotian one...
Also, a couple more. Started experimenting with mixing milliput with green stuff (almost 20%-25% of milliput) as seen in various modelling forums, and I´m really happy with the results. And my first horse! Full of mistakes, but I have another on the shipyard with all fixed.
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2761/dscf1206b.jpg) With neck fixed, lion skin on horse and laurel crown in the helmet.
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9002/dscf1203do.jpg)
Nice work fella! :D
That's a pretty good horse there, maybe a little thin around the hind quarters, but a good effort for a first attempt!
:-bd
Quote from: Phobos on 11 January 2013, 11:15:35 AM
Thanks to all you guys! really inspiring your support.
Also, I want to make a quick question to the military history experts here: In the most of manufacturers, heitaroi appears with boeotian helmet, and don´t know if using another model (thracian, macedonian, attic) could be right.
I think the Boetian was preferred by cavalry because it didn't impead their hearing. Cavalry had to be more aware of whats going on around them. I can't remember where I read this but it was probably a WRG armies and enemies publication.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/65217_10151325067984463_1127436419_n.jpg)
Damn fine Phobos !!
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks to all, Techno, ML, Barbarian and Leon!
Yep, I have to reinforce the legs and correct the main shape, also, I know that the face is going to be a good problem :P
About Boeotian one, right, I´ve read the same in some book, maybe a WRG too, so I think I´ll stay with the boeotian for troopers and maybe attical for officers.
Hi there! Some few more pics of my macedonians, almost finished.
Now I´m working in an oscan heavy cavalryman and a scythian nobleman, pics quite soon! :D
Keep working on horses, correcting proportions and positions, but not perfect at all (this is the fourth I done) Is not finished, and I´m going to redone the face and smooth surfaces with sandpaper.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1215.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1217.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1222.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1221.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1223.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1224.jpg)
Really nice!
Great so far, Phobos. I still think the horse needs a bit more "belly", though. :-\
Quote from: Hertsblue on 27 January 2013, 10:54:47 AM
Great so far, Phobos. I still think the horse needs a bit more "belly", though. :-\
You are totally right! That, and to lower the head, I made the neck too long (in 10mm Im learning that 1.5mm could be "too")
Any admin could change the name of the thread to "Modelling Workshop?"
Tomorrow, more horses, incendiary pigs and the beginning of a Seleucid War Elephant ;)
Quote from: Phobos on 04 February 2013, 10:58:01 PM
Any admin could change the name of the thread to "Modelling Workshop?"
Done!
8)
Thanks Leon! unfortunately no pics today.
A question for Nikharwood, Techno and Clibinarius (and any fellow sculptor that reads it): Finally I get the right proportions for horses, but still I have problems with the horse´s face. Any hint about that?
I'm afraid I use the trial and error method P.....Just try and copy a good model.
Practice again I'm afraid. :-\
Cheers - Phil.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=fr&safe=off&q=horse+reference+for+sculpture&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41934586,d.Yms&biw=1280&bih=937&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=twoRUbafNsiRtAaRo4HoAQ#um=1&hl=fr&safe=off&tbo=d&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=horse+face+sculpture&oq=horse+face+sculpture&gs_l=img.3...4926.5603.2.5875.2.2.0.0.0.0.111.209.1j1.2.0...0.0...1c.1.2.img.2zTJ8DPFK98&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41934586,d.Yms&fp=19e51e49ba520531&biw=1280&bih=937
https://www.google.com/search?hl=fr&safe=off&q=horse+reference+for+sculpture&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41934586,d.Yms&biw=1280&bih=937&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=twoRUbafNsiRtAaRo4HoAQ#um=1&hl=fr&safe=off&tbo=d&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=horse+front&oq=horse+front&gs_l=img.3..0i19l6j0i5i19.1548.2595.6.2868.2.2.0.0.0.0.138.246.0j2.2.0...0.0...1c.1.2.img.ab7EXN8f6y0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41934586,d.Yms&fp=19e51e49ba520531&biw=1280&bih=937
Good luck !!
I missed this thread until now. I think you're doing well; the horse is a severe test of a sculptor.
Head wise, as Techno says its all about practice, there's no magic formula. What I did was to get a good 28mm horse I liked (Ebob's of Perry's) and copied it, that is to say I tried to sculpt as good a copy as I could. It can help to sculpt it the same size and then go down to 15mm and then to 10mm, you'll improve each time. Its much easier to use a sculpture than a drawing as you can turn it to any angle in your hand.
Also I would say to practice the proportions by drawing the horse. Its much quicker and I firmly believe that you can only sculpt something if you can draw it reasonably well. You'll spot what you are getting wrong and save yourself having to cut putty away and start over. Keep in mind the common mistakes; head too small/big, legs too short, or neck too long (that's the one I still have to watch). Use a ruler on both sculpt and drawing if you have to, after a while you won't need to anymore. If you are happy with proportions now thats fine.
If you can draw the head from the side and the front that will help your brain get the 3D shape of the object, once you go to sculpt it. When sculpting I find it useful to measure the underlying wire to be the maximum length of the head, and allow the tip of the wire to be just visible under the putty. Adding a little putty for some detail can make the head too big and throw out the proportion, so if I can see the wire, I know length is not the issue.
Thanks guys!
Curiously, I haven´t got the same problem with the elephant and the pigs... Maybe due to its sizes.
I use macedonian, roman and persian horses in 20mm of HAT, Italery and Zvezda as models and to have the muscles and positions clear.
Also, It has been really difficult for me to find a wire tiny enough to 10mm legs and arms, but strong enough to bend without breaking in the articulations, nut recently I bought some garden wire, and it works.
P.S. Actualization: I´ve finally succeeded in making a good horse face, at least the right side, I´ll try tomorrow to made the left one.
Balancing up the sides can be a trial Phobos....Just be patient ! ;) :)
Cheers - Phil.
A bit late, but some new photos. Unfortunately,the camera get its battery off before I could take the pics to the elephant and to the flaming pics...
First, muscled breastplate for the Oscan rider.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1240_zps581be719.jpg)
Scythian noble torso, with the weapon attached, corinthian and scale armour. This late one not clearly visible, sorry.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1236_zps0a4a4ab9.jpg)
One of the horses, with head finished I´ve to work more the muscles and finish the hooves, like the other one.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1235_zps84a2e9f8.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1230_zpscb176fae.jpg)
The horses have a neck too long and need more belly !! ;)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/71440_10151392724524463_168378117_n.jpg)
Thanks for the photos Barbarian! Curiously, I was convinced that finally I had the right proportions... maybe the Steve Barber horse that Im using as model is wrong too :-\
Seems to me, and I freely admit that I can't sculpt for toffee, that if you copy someone else's sculpt you risk carrying on their mistakes.
If you want an object lesson on how not to depict a horse, try Van Dyck's portrait of Charles I.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anthonis_van_Dyck_046.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anthonis_van_Dyck_046.jpg)
Oh, and I believe that my reference to the horse's "belly" should really have been "chest" :-[
That tiny head, right? What about Uccello, with those strange eyes on his horses? Great artists are clearly challenged by the equine.
You may want to keep the head.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 11 February 2013, 10:20:19 AM
As a souvenir? ;)
I was thinking the same ;D
Anyway, I´m redoning the whole head and lowering it a bit, not a problem, this way I could improve it (specially the ears)
Btw, checked it, and that SB horse really has a long neck, others not. Strange.
Thanks for all the comments, I really appreciate it, both good and bad ones.
Keep going, P, you're within touching distance. :-bd
Horrible and busy week chaps, I´ll try to upload some new pics tomorrow ;)
Well, some different things
A celtic chieftain conversion
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1241_zps7be4480d.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1244_zpsee0aa03e.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1246_zpse4b64649.jpg)
Princeps conversions. Horsecrest instead of plumes, sword at the ready and hurling pila.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1255_zpsac251b16.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1251_zps3d6daecf.jpg)
Triarii with etrusco corinthian helmet
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1250_zps8c645bb8.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1247_zpsbeb845e8.jpg)
Scythian nobleman, with gorytos and akinakes attached. The scale barding is gonna be redone soon.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1257_zps7535e113.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1258_zps595edcae.jpg)
That´s all folks!
Excellent stuff, P. 8)
Hi chaps!
Long time without uploading newbies, but a week without green stuff and another week sick had beaten me.
Anyway, some new things, let me know your opinions.
First, sucessors war elephant (seleukid)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1450_zps83c041a1.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1451_zps1397725d.jpg)
Lacedemonian periokoi hoplite
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1453_zps542958ea.jpg)
Hellenistic thureophoroi
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1454_zpsca7c2f8c.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1455_zpse03396e3.jpg)
Tarentinan cavalryman
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1456_zps643235c8.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1458_zpscc296e20.jpg)
And Athenian hoplite. Maybe I´ll redo the facial mask.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1460_zps7aeda6a6.jpg)
Coming along very nicely P. :-bd
Very good work !!
Cheers - Phil.
I do love heffalumps. And that one looks particularly impressive. 8)
Thanks a lot guys! Currently Im working on the mahout (driver) and the howdah (the tiny castle for the crew) The castle is driving me insane :D. Also, the trump still not convinces me, maybe a bit longer...
Just seen the post for the first time and can see the progress you've made since your first sculpts. coming along a treat and you can tell what the figures represent by the helmets without having to read the captions-always a good sign. WELL DONE ;)
Best wishes for your future sculpts. By the way, no one does Thracians for the Alexandrian or other periods or Macedonian archers - so maybe Leon might be interested should you produce any. I'm sure there are a lot out there who'd love some
Best wishes DaveL
Thanks DaveL!
Yep, macedonians and some thracians are thing I proposed to Leon (as Oscans that anyone produces them, a good range of Achaemenids, or Sucessors), but first he want to see it these fit Pendraken quality standards.
Hi Phobos. Good luck with that. I'll be keeping a look out ;)
Best Wishes DaveL
Hi Phobos,
Some lovely work there! :D Just one question regarding the Etrusco-Corinthian helmets on the Roman Triarii and the Scythian nobleman. They are beautifully modelled, but are you sure the proportions and angle are right? They look rather as if a true Corinthian helmet was being worn balanced on the top of the head, and at that angle I am not sure it would be possible for it to stay in position even at rest, let alone during violent action! :-\. I had thought (I admit, on the basis of not a lot of evidence) that this type of helmet was a rather stylised version of this design, and was not as tall as a real one pushed back would be, and was not so sharply angled to the rear - does anyone else have views? I think the closest I have to an image on which I am basing this is the triarius on p110 of John Warry's Warfare in the Classical World, which I have seen widely reproduced elsewhere. He also has a great chart on p109 showing the development of Samnite, Roman and Etruscan helmets which includes this type as no 7. The key point is that the rear of the helmet is nowhere near as heavily angled as the front. This beautiful book is over thirty years old now, so I have no idea if more recent research has overtaken this. Does anyone have any ideas/views?
Mollinary
Good question Mollinary. In fact, originally the helmet of the triarii was smaller in the back, but when I insert the feathers, it deformed a bit backwards. As you said, at least etrusco corinthan and apulio corinthian were stylised versions, I have this in my mind.
The sctyhian one was the first helmet made of this kind by me, so it´s full of flaws, really. I promise to do it better soon ;)
good job :-bd
war elephant is fantastic !
:-bd Great job on all the figures Phobos, love the elephant, its an art, a skill i wish i could do. maybe one day i'll put the painting catapult down and pick up the sculpting trowel.
have a great week
Sean
Excellent - especially that pachyderm 8)
Wow, thanks to everybody!
In fact, Pachyderm as term is obsolete (just readed it now) but thanks anyway Nik :D
Quick question P.
You're obviously using 'green stuff'.....But on certain parts are you mixing that with another putty ?
Or are the lighter 'greens parts' plain Milliput ?
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Phobos on 11 April 2013, 10:53:23 PM
In fact, Pachyderm as term is obsolete (just readed it now) but thanks anyway Nik :D
Don't you go believing that Wikipedia...it's still in the OED so I'm going to keep using it as it's such a coolio word ;) :D
Quote from: Techno on 12 April 2013, 07:00:42 AM
Quick question P.
You're obviously using 'green stuff'.....But on certain parts are you mixing that with another putty ?
Or are the lighter 'greens parts' plain Milliput ?
Cheers - Phil.
Yep, GS + White milliput, for general shapes ;)
Quote from: nikharwood on 12 April 2013, 07:20:59 AM
Don't you go believing that Wikipedia...it's still in the OED so I'm going to keep using it as it's such a coolio word ;) :D
Haha, not in wikipedia (in fact, I use it near nothing), but yep, a nice word.
Well, something new now. A commission trophy for a Blood Bowl tournament. Not 100% finished, it needs something on the cup, advices welcome.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/CIMG1462_zpsc9350846.jpg)
Also, Im working in three different ancient spanish warlords (Iberian, Celtiberian and Lusotannan) with their standard bearers and musicians and some macedonian phalangetai, pics soon.
Flames?
A ball; an armoured, clenched fist; a fist holding a ball; or goal-posts?
Flames with ball or fist with a ball... look nice... Thanks chaps!
Totty?
I'll get my coat...
Not enough space for totty :D
Quote from: Phobos on 08 June 2013, 12:48:11 PM
Not enough space for totty :D
If you make it an 'A' cup, you need less space. :P
How about a stylised grenade like the French grenadiers used to wear?
Mix of Milliput and Green stuff ?
Yep comrade. I use it for tricky shapes and bigger sizes.
Wow, a lot of dust in this thread!
Well well, some pics now from the Ancient Spanish commanders that I made for a friend. All unfinished, of course.
Celtiberian chieftain
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1571_zpse14b465c.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1569_zps64afa9a0.jpg)
Celtiberian standard bearer
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1568_zpsc7fc4f8a.jpg)
Celtiberian musician
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1567_zps873d33f7.jpg)
Iberian chieftain
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1565_zps66facffd.jpg)
Iberian Standard bearer
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1563_zpscc495313.jpg)
Lusitanian chieftain
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1562_zps6ab6ca5e.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1561_zps1b7c401e.jpg)
Lusitanian standard bearer
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1559_zpsf4c1d219.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1560_zps8a051174.jpg)
Ole!
And the elephant, with some little details added
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1573_zps0ca54237.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1572_zps94ef8441.jpg)
Going VERY nicely P !! Good work.
Are these single models/conversions you are making for your friend ?
I only ask as the Chieftain would be a of a nightmare to press and cast with the two 'horns' on that plane, if he was after multiple castings.
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks a lot Phil! They are single ones, the spanish army of my friend always had the lack of good officers and generals, so I started these as a way to practise more. And yes, the horns of the celtiberian would be a nightmare to cast.
BLIMEY! Nice work fella!
Brilliant work!
The elephant is particularly stunning =D>
Ry
wok! hey comrades! the Ancient Spanish commands finished!
Celtiberians
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1574_zps1ce48ab8.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1575_zpscee17fbf.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1576_zps726d133f.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1578_zps1d02ce53.jpg)
Iberians
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1581_zps8b19f565.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1582_zpsa20ea2b4.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1583_zpsd628f899.jpg)
Lusotannans
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1586_zps03a1c903.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1587_zpsb63acc50.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1589_zpsb350145c.jpg)
Coming along a storm P. :-bd
(Sorry....I keep forgetting English is not your first language....."Coming along a storm" means you've done particularly well.)
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks a lot Phil!
Some things, like proportions in arms are not 100% correct, I have to work more on that, but im quite happy with thos chaps... and coming soon, painted. :D
Quote from: Phobos on 13 July 2013, 11:45:40 AM
Thanks a lot Phil!
Some things, like proportions in arms are not 100% correct, I have to work more on that, but im quite happy with thos chaps... and coming soon, painted. :D
Agreed P.....The arms could do with a
little work......They look a
little on the thin side as they are at the moment. ;)
At this scale, we need to 'cheat' and fool the eye by exaggerating certain aspects of the little figures.
BUT..... honestly, for the amount of time you've been doing this, you are progressing at a terrific rate....Keep it up ! :)
Cheers - Phil. ( I look forward to seeing them painted. :-bd)
I forget to upload pics of the spartan general I made for another friend (in fact, all my wargamers friends have generals made by me, but I keep using generic figures... :D)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1743_zps1d28cda0.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1742_zps24086bae.jpg)
=D>
I wish I could do the same :'(
;)
:-bd
Love the helm !
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: ronan on 31 July 2013, 09:27:36 AM
=D>
I wish I could do the same :'(
;)
Hey Ronan! Time ago, when I watched Techno working, I wish the same, and believe me, all is practice and practice ;)
if you say so..
but i will take less time for some people than for me !
;)
As promised, the figs painted.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1746_zpsb826789f.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1747_zps893b4984.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1750_zpsb45d55a4.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1756_zps946310cb.jpg)
Very well done P !!
Great job.
Cheers - Phil.
really excelent end result phobos.
nice to see all the development then final piece
good work chap 8)
Good work fella!
Really good job, this has really given me the inspiration to complete my battering ram crew I started a few weeks ago.
As some of you may be aware I have the pleasure of making the yurts for the Mongol range, so perhaps once they are done I'll concentrate on a few more medieval and Crusader sculpts in the run up to winter :)
Once again, nice work and thanks for sharing with us.
Cheers
Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
Very nicely done 8)
Great work, Phobos. Must be terrific to know you've created something totally unique. :-bd
Hey comrades! Thanks a lot for the suppor, being busy this past weeks, but now I could show you something new ;)
Siracusan commander
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1758_zpsd95512f3.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1759_zpsbfba9f66.jpg)
And Spartan commander on foot.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1764_zps43c0c9ee.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1762_zps40fa67a6.jpg)
Also, next week I´ll try to take pics of the siracusan bodyguards and the Roman consuls and their escorts ;)
I hope you like it.
Very very good work!
AHA !!
So that's the new putty P ?
Looks like that's worked really, really well.....Great job !!
Cheers - Phil
Thanks both ML and Phil!
Yeah, cleaning a bit the figs before using the red one it sticks ok.
Also, in the peytral of the horse are there two dolphins figures (as seen on Siracousai coins) but I think I´ll redone that ones.
Love that spartan general! Awesome work! =P~
Quote from: Phobos on 20 September 2013, 01:27:33 PM
Yeah, cleaning a bit the figs before using the red one it sticks ok.
The other thing that might work to help the putty to stick to the model is to warm the metal a bit P.....Close under a lamp for example.
Not sure with the new putty, as I haven't tried it yet.....But I find a bit of warmth often helps get green stuff to 'key' to metal.
Hope that helps !!
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks Techno, in this case, the issue was to stick the red one to the GS, but I´ll try the heating solution.
Also, guys, I have a doubt concerning the siracusan commander. The original idea was to arm him with a machaira, greek or italic one (former straight and longer than the greek) but I´m considering to arm him with a xyston, thoughts?
Well, the siracusan mounted command finished.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1765_zps8fd3c1ed.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1767_zps97617dcb.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1769_zps48f3f134.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1768_zps4bc23165.jpg)
Superb sir!
Yes, excellent. =D>
Great figs! Very versatile.
Now I notice that I forgot some things, like the hild of the sword or the straps of the standard bearers... damn, I´ll made it tomorrow
;)
Don't worry Phobos !....We've all done it !
It's very odd how little things can be missed.....and you don't notice until later on.
Cheers - Phil.
Siracusan foot general
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1785_zps506927fb.jpg)
Roman consul
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1774_zps429b5605.jpg)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1775_zps401e4ecd.jpg)
And roman standards. Vexillum, capitoline wolf and eagle.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/DSCF1793_zps3146f1a1.jpg)
Good standards! Set the standards high I see.
Will you do cohort standards with honours too?
Why do generals all go about waving swords high above their heads?
Quote from: fsn on 04 October 2013, 09:38:42 PM
Why do generals all go about waving swords high above their heads?
cos they can ...there Generals! ;)
Quote from: fsn on 04 October 2013, 09:38:42 PM
Why do generals all go about waving swords high above their heads?
They probably have special light-weight general swords made for them; hollow cast in a light aluminium alloy filled with helium... just so their arms don't grow tired...? :-/
Cheers,
Rob
Stonewall Jackson held a lifelong belief that one of his arms was longer than the other, and thus usually held the "longer" arm up to equalize his circulation.
Perhaps this a common delusion among generals of all periods? :)
The common delusion amongst generals of all periods was that they could command troops. Not many were proved right. ;)
I guess that would be roughly 50%....
in every event where one proved to be unsuccesfull his opponent usually was :D
(Not that winning a battle is the one criterium that makes you a good general but it does help!)
Cheers,
Rob
Long time without updates :P
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/12044014_1020080148029996_1152852829_o_zpsfldgt8th.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/12044014_1020080148029996_1152852829_o_zpsfldgt8th.jpg.html)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/12041172_1020080138029997_1861312639_o_zpsbqlo4odt.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/12041172_1020080138029997_1861312639_o_zpsbqlo4odt.jpg.html)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/12059412_1020080168029994_897550664_o_zpsh2m5ce72.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/12059412_1020080168029994_897550664_o_zpsh2m5ce72.jpg.html)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/12029115_1020080171363327_942005560_n_zps2qqbbtzc.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/12029115_1020080171363327_942005560_n_zps2qqbbtzc.jpg.html)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/12047645_1020080164696661_808674272_n_zpsfgzyjzov.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/12047645_1020080164696661_808674272_n_zpsfgzyjzov.jpg.html)
Those are superb!
Looking terrific, Phobos ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Just read this thread from start to finish and the chaps you are making are very good as well as being unique. Well done.
I have more on the pipeline coming soon, :D
Converted PEndraken light greek cavalry into macedonian Prodromoi.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/IMG-20151001-WA0002_zpsiuf40sen.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/IMG-20151001-WA0002_zpsiuf40sen.jpg.html)
Sweet
Looking good !
Cheers - Phil
Very nice indeed
Take care
Andy
Three more prodromoi
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/20151012_150601_zpscx3z0tuj.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/20151012_150601_zpscx3z0tuj.jpg.html)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/20151012_150630_zps5t8aed9g.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/20151012_150630_zps5t8aed9g.jpg.html)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/20151012_150656_zps51e6ip09.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/20151012_150656_zps51e6ip09.jpg.html)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/20151012_150706_zps9z0hnjpq.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/20151012_150706_zps9z0hnjpq.jpg.html)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/20151012_150712_zps9lgigkvm.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/20151012_150712_zps9lgigkvm.jpg.html)
And companions musician and standard bearer
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/20151012_152430_zpsd7la27uf.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/20151012_152430_zpsd7la27uf.jpg.html)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/20151012_152459_zpsjpzkxedl.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/20151012_152459_zpsjpzkxedl.jpg.html)
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/Machairophoroi/20151012_153508_zps0rkhldsq.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Machairophoroi/media/20151012_153508_zps0rkhldsq.jpg.html)
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Superb!
Great job, Phobos ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Excellent stuff 8)