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Title: soaking models question
Post by: Nav on 30 December 2012, 11:06:50 PM
Im getting ready to paint my new perry frenchies and I for got to wash them before glueing  ~X(,  I already glued them together but can I still soak them in warm soap water or will the glue dissolve  :-\
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 December 2012, 11:14:47 PM
If you used polystyrene cement, you'll be fiine.
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Nav on 31 December 2012, 12:52:36 AM
ok thanks, i used liquid plastic cement from model master will that work.
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Techno on 31 December 2012, 08:04:41 AM
Should be OK Nav.
Only glue that I know of that can be a bit iffy with water is PVA.....Jump in chaps and tell me others.
Why not try soaking just the one first Nav....To make absolutely sure.
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Steve J on 31 December 2012, 08:07:31 AM
Superglue as well will come off worse when soaked in warm water.
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Techno on 31 December 2012, 08:09:00 AM
Now that I didn't know !
Thanks Steve.
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: capthugeca on 31 December 2012, 08:21:11 AM
Quote from: Steve J on 31 December 2012, 08:07:31 AM
Superglue as well will come off worse when soaked in warm water.

Not very super then, is it!  :D
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 December 2012, 08:47:33 AM
Not sure it would sell as well if it was called 'slightly quicker than normal glue', but compared to what was around before it, it was amazing!
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: sebigboss79 on 31 December 2012, 11:29:06 AM
I actually never wash plastics....any benefits? Metal and Resin, fair enough but Plastics are they not cleaned before packaging??? If it is at all neaded I mean.  :-\
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Hertsblue on 31 December 2012, 06:00:01 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 31 December 2012, 08:07:31 AM
Superglue as well will come off worse when soaked in warm water.

If you'd superglued your fingers together as often as I have you'd know that for sure.  =)
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Sandinista on 31 December 2012, 06:58:30 PM
Now I'm dissappointed, thought this was connected to the totty thread  :(
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Nosher on 31 December 2012, 07:00:15 PM
I can honestly say that I have NEVER cleaned a mini, metal or plastic, in my life and never once have I had any of the painting disasters people often refer to.

Maybe because I undercoat everything in Halfords Black??
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: nikharwood on 31 December 2012, 10:27:35 PM
Quote from: Sandinista on 31 December 2012, 06:58:30 PM
Now I'm dissappointed, thought this was connected to the totty thread  :(

:D
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Techno on 01 January 2013, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: sebigboss79 on 31 December 2012, 11:29:06 AM
I actually never wash plastics....any benefits? Metal and Resin, fair enough but Plastics are they not cleaned before packaging??? If it is at all neaded I mean.  :-\

I'd always assumed....(Sure I've been told on more than one occasion) that there tends to be some type of releasing agent left on the plastic models from when they come out of the 'press'.  :-\
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Serotonin on 01 January 2013, 10:05:06 AM
I think that used to be the case- years back I remember struggling to get paint to adhere to a GW plastic Rhino, but Ive not had that problem in the last few years.
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Techno on 01 January 2013, 10:20:13 AM
You're probably right then S.

I'm afraid most of my 'knowledge' on this type of question is from long, long ago. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: sebigboss79 on 01 January 2013, 02:15:49 PM
I just never encountered an problem with plastics  :P but then again it could be good to remove dust from stuff you have improperly stored for a while....
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Squirrel on 01 January 2013, 06:50:13 PM
All plastic and resin mouldings will have some degree of release agent residue on them, but the type and quantity used will determine whether there is an issue painting them.

With injection moulding the release agent is often applied manually after five or so 'presses' so the amount on a model can vary a lot.

Only a problem when using acrylic paints normally so spray primer solves the issue and saves having to wash them.

Cheers,

Kev
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: Hertsblue on 02 January 2013, 09:34:15 AM
The only figures I ever washed were the old Airfix plastics. It was always pure murder trying to get enamel to stay on them - but then, it only took a strong wind to bend them.  :'(
Title: Re: soaking models question
Post by: sebigboss79 on 02 January 2013, 10:15:51 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 02 January 2013, 09:34:15 AM
The only figures I ever washed were the old Airfix plastics. It was always pure murder trying to get enamel to stay on them - but then, it only took a strong wind to bend them.  :'(

Enamel on plastics  :o :o :o :o
OK, I admit, been there, done that.... :-[