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Title: Military Bands
Post by: mollinary on 20 November 2012, 09:37:19 PM
There are many accounts of Prussian and Austrian battalions marching to the attack to the sound of their bands playing stirring music.  I would be astonished if the French and Italians were less musically inclined.  Is this not a "must have" for a late 19th century army?  Essentially a pack with uniform modifications to half a dozen basic figures to provide the perfect vignette for every army. A fifteen foot figure pack of specialists, at the price of a normal thirty figure pack. I'd certainly pay £4 a pack to have some of these vignettes to grace my battlefield.  Possibly even as markers for high morale? Anyone else interested?  I am certainly willing to contribute to the sculpting costs - any ideas as to what the core band should contain?   I would have thought basic drummers, fifers, trumpeters, a bass drum, a drum major/bandleader, and perhaps a jingling johnny for the Prussians.  Anyone with real expertise as to what else should be included?

Mollinary
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 November 2012, 10:28:59 PM
French march songs are very slow compared to the ribald British jogs we are used to...
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Hertsblue on 21 November 2012, 10:57:57 AM
If you're going to go for the marginal figures what about the engineers? Napoleon I's Genie were picked assault troops - Davout's company at Auerstadt stood off multiple attacks by the Prussians.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Techno on 21 November 2012, 11:38:06 AM
I'm certainly up for it if you decide you want me to make them.

I'll be an expert on Napoleonic uniforms soon......(HAH !!.....SOME CHANCE :o !!.....But I'm enjoying learning about this period, even though I consider I'm only scratching the surface of the surface !)

Cheers - Phil.



Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Albie Bach on 21 November 2012, 03:11:05 PM
I think it's a good idea. I've got bands for my Union & Confederates (Albeit in 15mm. Don't tell Leon  :-$  )
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Bernie on 21 November 2012, 05:17:35 PM
This took me back - I had the minifigs Imperial Guard band in 25mm years ago - made a lovely vignette

Re Jingling Johnny the French would have the Chapeau Chinoise in C19th which was their equivalent. This would make a fascinating project - if the Pendraken team had the sculpting time

As an aside look up Discurio.co.uk for a brilliant selection of CD's for music from C17th onwards for most continental countries - the Franco-Prussian music I often play when painting
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: holdfast on 23 November 2012, 04:01:41 PM
Support the request for bands most strongly. About to run Skalitz so my top priority is Prussians.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 November 2012, 04:09:51 PM
Problem with bands is that they are decorative but in unscrupulous hands take all the casualties.

IanS  :d
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: sultanbev on 24 November 2012, 11:05:30 AM
We have rules for bands in our 15mm Napoleonic games, although only my Tripolitanian 1805 army has them currently.

Sounds a good idea to me, although I wouldn't let unscrupulous Ian near mine  ;D
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Hertsblue on 24 November 2012, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: sultanbev on 24 November 2012, 11:05:30 AM
We have rules for bands in our 15mm Napoleonic games, although only my Tripolitanian 1805 army has them currently.

Sounds a good idea to me, although I wouldn't let unscrupulous Ian near mine  ;D

He has a point, though. In most rules the number of figures in the band would probably qualify it as an infantry battalion!  :-\
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Leon on 19 January 2013, 10:38:25 PM
Votes added!

8)
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: FierceKitty on 19 January 2013, 11:46:43 PM
Goon Show lovers will have fond memories of Napoleon's piano, of course....
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: nikharwood on 20 January 2013, 12:23:07 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 19 January 2013, 11:46:43 PM
Goon Show lovers will have fond memories of Napoleon's piano, of course....

Show available here: http://www.myoldradio.com/old-radio-episodes/the-goon-show-napoleon-s-piano/3

Script here: http://www.thegoonshow.net/scripts_show.asp?title=s06e04_napoleons_piano

They don't make 'em like they used to... :D
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Hertsblue on 20 January 2013, 10:05:08 AM
Got most of 'em on tape. Must get back to transferring them to disc sometime.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 22 January 2013, 03:24:19 PM
I'll have a band or two please.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Baconheimer on 26 April 2013, 04:33:16 PM
I would also purchase this.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Dave Fielder on 29 June 2013, 10:19:05 PM
Royal Marines Band?
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Le Manchou on 30 June 2013, 05:51:17 AM
add my vote!
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Leon on 25 July 2013, 02:17:19 AM
Votes added!

8)
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: holdfast on 22 July 2014, 10:12:23 AM
As Mollinary and Holdfast start to work on the next volume of our 1866 Wargaming in History Books it would be nice to reserve a slot for an Austrian and a Prussian Band if you can just get round to it. Most of the next volume will be Koniggratz and in the actual history many a Prussian band struck up at the end. We need to have the option available for the Austrians too, assuming that they can reverse history.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 July 2014, 11:12:21 AM
My god, its a bit dusty in this one......

ianS  ;)
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: cameronian on 22 July 2014, 11:24:15 AM
Painting of a military band behind an Austrian column at Trautenau, Trutnov museum, also the dog drawn big drum, would make a cracking model.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: FierceKitty on 22 July 2014, 11:27:17 AM
A few Japanese and Chinese taiko, gongs, and conch-trumpets would be good.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: cameronian on 22 July 2014, 11:52:40 AM
Like this.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Aksu on 10 October 2014, 09:20:32 AM
ACW compatible musicians would be very nice indeed. Even a fifer would be useful, no need to do the whole brass section.
Cheers,
Aksu
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 October 2014, 11:40:08 AM
The only musicians should be pipers and Lamberg(sp) - both those are weapons.

IanS
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Ithoriel on 10 October 2014, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 10 October 2014, 11:40:08 AM
The only musicians should be pipers and Lamberg(sp) - both those are weapons.

IanS

First result when I searched for LAMBERG was Pia Lamberg who is definitely not a weapon. Unless you consider her a sufficient advert for the adage "Make Love Not War" as to constitute an article of psychological warfare targeting troops morale :)

A LAMBEG on the other hand is a big f***-off drum which, if not exactly a weapon of war, definitely assaults the eardrums, especially when deployed en masse!
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Fenton on 10 October 2014, 03:31:05 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 10 October 2014, 12:42:29 PM
First result when I searched for LAMBERG was Pia Lamberg who is definitely not a weapon. Unless you consider her a sufficient advert for the adage "Make Love Not War" as to constitute an article of psychological warfare targeting troops morale :)

A LAMBEG on the other hand is a big f***-off drum which, if not exactly a weapon of war, definitely assaults the eardrums, especially when deployed en masse!

All my family and live in Lambeg. We at one time lived beside one of the guys that made the drums and unfortunately tested them as well
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Leman on 10 October 2014, 05:28:24 PM
Also have 15mm ACW bands, ambulances, surgeons, nurses, train etc.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 11 October 2014, 06:53:47 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 10 October 2014, 12:42:29 PM
First result when I searched for LAMBERG was Pia Lamberg who is definitely not a weapon. Unless you consider her a sufficient advert for the adage "Make Love Not War" as to constitute an article of psychological warfare targeting troops morale :)

A LAMBEG on the other hand is a big f***-off drum which, if not exactly a weapon of war, definitely assaults the eardrums, especially when deployed en masse!

Ok - I did put an sp next to it - dat be de vone I vant.

IanS
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Ithoriel on 11 October 2014, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 11 October 2014, 06:53:47 AM
Ok - I did put an sp next to it - dat be de vone I vant.

IanS

I'd definitely prefer the former to the latter! :)
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Fenton on 11 October 2014, 09:37:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7UzN8UvI5g
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Ithoriel on 11 October 2014, 09:44:28 AM
Lamberg - sounds better and looks better than a Lambeg :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9B52Mxd83I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9B52Mxd83I)
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Hertsblue on 11 October 2014, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: Fenton on 11 October 2014, 09:37:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7UzN8UvI5g

The consequences of tripping and falling forward, especially downhill, onto one of those drums doesn't bear thinking about.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Leman on 13 October 2014, 11:04:54 AM
I'd definitely buy the dog drawn drum - alliterative too.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Leon on 19 January 2015, 01:54:59 AM
Votes added!
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: holdfast on 11 February 2015, 10:58:11 AM
As for the casualties, is this actually happening any time soon?
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Leman on 11 February 2015, 02:25:28 PM
Aargh!
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Leman on 11 February 2015, 02:27:23 PM
Or for Pacific afficionados, Aaiee!
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: holdfast on 11 February 2015, 05:23:25 PM
So perhaps this has struck a chord, as military bands so often do.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Leon on 11 February 2015, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: holdfast on 11 February 2015, 10:58:11 AM
As for the casualties, is this actually happening any time soon?

This request has made it into the Top 10 Requests: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11244.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11244.0.html)  so we'll be trying to fit it into the sculptors schedule where we can.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: holdfast on 11 February 2015, 05:57:01 PM
Marvellous, do you need the pictures to work from?
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: Leon on 11 February 2015, 06:23:19 PM
Quote from: holdfast on 11 February 2015, 05:57:01 PM
Marvellous, do you need the pictures to work from?

If you've got some good reference material, that would be a great help.  The next gap in the sculpting schedule is likely to be around July/August time, after the remaining French/Prussian Napoleonics have been done.
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: mollinary on 11 February 2015, 07:51:31 PM
Quote from: holdfast on 11 February 2015, 05:57:01 PM
Marvellous, do you need the pictures to work from?

Careful!  Don't distract the man from those Rockets!   :o

Mollinary
Title: Re: Military Bands
Post by: holdfast on 11 February 2015, 08:37:13 PM
Well the bands can play Rocket Man