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Title: Falklands Rules???
Post by: sdennan on 28 August 2012, 03:58:54 AM
With the new range what are the suggestions for rules?

Simon
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: sebigboss79 on 28 August 2012, 05:45:38 AM
Cold War Commander, Blitzkrieg Commander maybe.
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: sdennan on 28 August 2012, 06:04:27 AM
Thanks for that suggestion.

Im thinking perhaps at 10mm a lower level would be cool where a base equals a squad.
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Post by: Steve J on 28 August 2012, 06:54:41 AM
The CWC lists are at one base equals a squad due to the nature of the conflict IIRC.
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Post by: Dave Fielder on 28 August 2012, 07:19:32 AM
You could use Crossfire at this level, whilst designed for WW2 the weaponry used down south will not have changed that much at squad/section level.

It depends if you want to use air support though. If yes then stick with CWC or FWC.  Arty support works will in Crossfire, but it is very low level and is suited to a maximum of about one company aside for a large evenings game.
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Post by: Leon on 28 August 2012, 01:19:06 PM
There's a Two Fat Lardies set as well, an add on to I Ain't Been Shot Mum I believe.
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: TinyTerrain on 28 August 2012, 01:39:49 PM
Force on Force?

Cheers, Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 August 2012, 03:28:38 PM
With the falklands depends on the action -

Force on Force has Top Malo house as a scenario...

Goose Green and Mount Longden would work at base to Section for CWC, or BGMR.

Problem is that there is only limited action.

IanS  ;)
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: Gran76 on 28 August 2012, 03:53:09 PM
Im going with Force on Force but Rules of Engagement by Great Escape Games ill try out as well in a modern setting. Disposable Heroes has a book on the Falklands and Somalia called Seek out, Close with and Destroy. A thing that keeps pondering me is the SLR vs FN-FAL the former being semi-auto the latter  full auto which i was going to class SLR as a semi-auto rifle and the FN-FAL as an assault rifle or just class them the same :-\
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: Sunray on 30 August 2012, 03:50:42 PM
In terms of SLR versus FN, I would be inclined in the Falklands scanario to pitch them as equal.

British skill at arms/marksmanship was much better, and at ranges of 30+ meters, the FN is very hard to control in full auto.
The Dutch Marines - who train a lot with the Royals tended to use the Auto on their FNs for FIBUA only and with other battle settings (300m) were always in semi mode.  I cannot comment on Argentine fire control discipline, but I would imagine something similar.
Don't forget that both sides used SMGs and the Brits (esp the Royals) had a fair number of LMG, in addition to the GPMG,  so the firepower of a British section was hot and accurate.  Indeed with the extra firepower of the LMG, I would give the Royals the edge.

British SF had the M16, so would accept that as Assault weapon. - with lots of nasty tubes under the barrel.

I have fought Falklands with CWC and AK47 rules. Both gave good games, the CWC was less bloody.

Sunray out

Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: nikharwood on 30 August 2012, 09:55:23 PM
It'll be Cold War Commander for me (unsurprisingly)...I've been waiting to be able to do this in 10mm since playtesting in 2005/06 :)
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Post by: Luddite on 01 September 2012, 08:20:16 PM
Don't forget as well that the British used a lot of explosives, light anti tank weapons etc., to dig the Argies out of their rock hard trenches.

And of course the bayonet.  With some guts behind it.   ;)
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: Gennorm on 19 September 2012, 02:12:56 PM
There's a supplement to IABSM called 'Now We'll Have to Bloody Walk' in one of the Lardies' Specials. Richard Clarke has said he'll update it for version 3 (not hard to do on your own anyway) and issue it free as a 20th anniversary commemoration but I think other priorities have got in the way recently.
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 September 2012, 03:01:18 PM
Just had the Vulcan Bomber make repeated low level fly pasts over my school (next to Cranfield Uni & Airstrip) SOOOO DAMN COOOL!  8)
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 September 2012, 03:57:52 PM
Good for the kids concentration though...... ;D

IanS
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Post by: Leon on 19 September 2012, 04:04:06 PM
I was chatting with Rich (of TooFatLardies) at Colours, and there might be something in the pipeline...  ;)
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 September 2012, 04:25:42 PM
I took the kids outside to let them watch!
Come on, what have they more chance of remembering, a low flying Vulcan or my teaching!  ;D
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Post by: Last Hussar on 19 September 2012, 08:29:42 PM
I had a flying lesson there!
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 September 2012, 09:30:12 AM
Once saw 12 do a QRA at Finningly, whilst they were still "Live", also had a Victor buzz us on the moors at Ingleton, blue steel attatched.

IanS
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Post by: Nosher on 20 September 2012, 11:38:56 AM
Quote from: Gennorm on 19 September 2012, 02:12:56 PM
There's a supplement to IABSM called 'Now We'll Have to Bloody Walk' in one of the Lardies' Specials. Richard Clarke has said he'll update it for version 3 (not hard to do on your own anyway) and issue it free as a 20th anniversary commemoration but I think other priorities have got in the way recently.

Surely a 30th commemoration ;)
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: Nosher on 20 September 2012, 11:40:59 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 19 September 2012, 04:25:42 PM
I took the kids outside to let them watch!
Come on, what have they more chance of remembering, a low flying Vulcan or my teaching!  ;D

Thats what I like to see ;)

This might be of interest to the kids Lemmey

http://www.vulcantothesky.org/

Might make a change from raising funds for church roofs :o
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 September 2012, 12:10:50 PM
I was straight on it Nosher!  ;)  ;D
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Post by: Gennorm on 20 September 2012, 03:43:09 PM
Quote from: Nosher on 20 September 2012, 11:38:56 AM
Surely a 30th commemoration ;)

I thought you'd spot that one Wilson  :-[
Title: Re: Falklands Rules???
Post by: Jerrylee on 03 October 2012, 05:48:09 PM
Have you thought about using the free rules of the net called fubar, there for small squad actions but are quick and easy to play?
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 04 October 2012, 07:10:08 AM
Furbar are an excellent set, give em a try....

IanS  :D
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Post by: Nosher on 04 October 2012, 07:18:36 AM
Tried FUBAR for other eras and genre's but found them a little bit dull and predicatable. Stumbled upon them when I was looking for a one to one skirmish system after trying FWC which just didn't work either. Great as a mass battle game but the system is horrid when done on a skirmish level.

CWC will work far better for the period