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Title: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: Leon on 10 May 2010, 06:52:25 PM
OK, this week's question:

If you converted all the war's/conflict's in history into a sports-type league, with Played, Won, Lost, who would be the most successful nation/team?  
Are there any unbeaten teams anywhere?
Who would have the best win/lose ratio?
And who would have the most games and points overall?
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: Dazza on 10 May 2010, 08:29:45 PM
England :)

fought every nation in the world at some stage of our evolution.


hard to say what the score would be tbh , but we'd win the Global League :)
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: 17-21l on 11 May 2010, 01:11:51 PM
Yes me too - England - although we should really say Britain?? - but there wouldnt have been a Britain without England - so yes we also go for England.

PS Ive spoke to the Queen on this one and she also gives England her vote ( followed closely by Germany)

:) :D :) :D ;)
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: ronan on 11 May 2010, 07:33:52 PM
I'd say England too..
.. despite I'm French  ;)
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: nikharwood on 12 May 2010, 06:47:29 AM
QuoteMost successful war record?

This, surely:



;)
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: Hurley on 12 May 2010, 07:07:22 AM
I hate to point this out but...The Romans kinda owned you and the first English king was a viking. Britain would have been just like Germany till Bismark organized them in the late 1800's.

Well if we are being patriotic. I put forward Canada, the only country to take on the US in full on war and win and take Washington D.C.

Hurley
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: 17-21l on 12 May 2010, 10:03:32 AM
Hi Hurley - yes its good to be patriotic - when was this war with the USA? 1812? wasnt that a war between Britain(England) and the USA? so that counts as one of ours-or? or are you talking about the Fenian raids? ( probably one of ours as well)

Anycase - god bless Canada - lived there a few times during my time in the Army - Alberta, Med Hat, went to  Calgary and Edmonton, Rockies ect.. beautiful country with great people. ;) :D

Best pizza Ive ever tasted!! (whats that got to do with it????) :D
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: lentulus on 12 May 2010, 12:03:51 PM
Quote from: 17-21l on 12 May 2010, 10:03:32 AM
wasnt that a war between Britain(England) and the USA?

It's a matter of spin.  All the victories were ours.  You can keep New Orleans.
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: Leon on 12 May 2010, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: Hurley on 12 May 2010, 07:07:22 AM
Well if we are being patriotic. I put forward Canada, the only country to take on the US in full on war and win and take Washington D.C.
Quote from: lentulus on 12 May 2010, 12:03:51 PM
It's a matter of spin.  All the victories were ours.  You can keep New Orleans.

I thought you were the peaceful neighbour!

Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: Leon on 12 May 2010, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: nikharwood on 12 May 2010, 06:47:29 AM
This, surely:



;)

I'll take this one any day:

Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: nikharwood on 12 May 2010, 10:04:37 PM
QuoteBest pizza Ive ever tasted!!

You not been to Italy then?  :P
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: Hurley on 12 May 2010, 11:18:45 PM
Peaceful we may be but we are also assertive. :)

Also for what weapons they had the Italians in North Africa didn't do to bad.

The flying tigers in china did will too.

Hurley   
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: Luddite on 12 May 2010, 11:34:11 PM
OK, the patriot in me says, Britain of course...but...i'm afraid the laurels rest elsewhere.

Played     100's

Won      All except 1.

Lost      1. Ain Jalut.

Who would be the most successful nation/team? 

And the winner is....the Mongols under Ghenghis Khan


Are there any unbeaten teams anywhere?

No.

Who would have the best win/lose ratio?

The Mongols.  Lost only one minor battle vs the Mamluks.  Destroyed and completely eradicated an unknown number of civiliastions / factions.  Utterly crushed every opponent they met.  Hand's down the greatest military force in history.


And who would have the most games and points overall?

Mongols.

Although on 'most games' the Romans might challenge them.  Plugging away for 800 years, they fought a fair number of opponents, but remeber the Mongol Conquest period lasted, what?  20 years?
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: Leon on 13 May 2010, 01:23:37 AM
Quote from: Luddite on 12 May 2010, 11:34:11 PM
OK, the patriot in me says, Britain of course...but...i'm afraid the laurels rest elsewhere.

Played     100's

Won      All except 1.

Lost      1. Ain Jalut.

Who would be the most successful nation/team? 

And the winner is....the Mongols under Ghenghis Khan


Are there any unbeaten teams anywhere?

No.

Who would have the best win/lose ratio?

The Mongols.  Lost only one minor battle vs the Mamluks.  Destroyed and completely eradicated an unknown number of civiliastions / factions.  Utterly crushed every opponent they met.  Hand's down the greatest military force in history.


And who would have the most games and points overall?

Mongols.

Although on 'most games' the Romans might challenge them.  Plugging away for 800 years, they fought a fair number of opponents, but remeber the Mongol Conquest period lasted, what?  20 years?

I never even thought of them.  Good point, well made.  It's very impressive when you look at their record like that.
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: Hurley on 13 May 2010, 03:45:38 PM
Actually the moguls lost twice to japan.

Both times they failed to land in force against the Sameri.

Hurley
Title: Re: Q of the Week - Most successful war record?
Post by: Luddite on 15 May 2010, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: Hurley on 13 May 2010, 03:45:38 PM
Actually the moguls lost twice to japan.

Both times they failed to land in force against the Sameri.

Hurley

Technically not, since both times weather destroyed their fleet before they made land-fall in any force.  Hence the Japanese myth of the 'kamikasi' or 'Divine Wind'.

So they never actually 'lost' as the battles didn't really begin.  There were a few small scale engagements (recorded in the Japanese chronicles and interesting for the Mongol's use of 'grenades') but i don't think these can count as a battle or a defeat.

And of course its actually entirely possible that the Mongols did lose battles, but those losses are not recorded.

Irrespective, i still content they are the greatest military force in history.