You may know the story of how the Khazaks, reluctant to be drawn into the orbit of the superpowers who were urging them to abandom their tribal animism and embrace the One True Faith, evaded the issue by saying "If we didn't buy our product, what would you recommend as the second course of action?", upon which the Turks and the Byzantines alike advised them to become Jewish (so that they would at least not join the opposition), with the result that a huge percentage of today's Jews have no ancestral connexion to David and Solomon (goodness, what a sentence, should be written in Latin)!
So, of course the way you, gentle reader, do things is the best of all possible ways; but if you had to change, what would you select if:
1) you had to use 10mm other than Pendraken figures;
2) you had to use a different scale;
3) you had to play a different period from your present stable of staples (ain't I poetic today?); and
4) you had to change to a different game from wargaming (God forbid), and why?
My own answers, if you are still reading (thank you), would be 1) Steve Barber, since despite the limited range his figures ae beautifully sculpted; 2) 6mm, for the sake of massed battle effect, storage and transportation, and sheer poverty; c3) crusades, since skutatoi and knights Templar paint up most attractively; and 4) shogi, which is a superb tactical gam that I don't focus on half as much as it would behove me to.
Khazaks sciatis quomodo fabula, invitum trahi in orbem, qui hortatur ad superpowers abandom septem una fides animism complecti deceptis rem dicendo "Si non Buy product , quid laudare secundum actionem "in quibus Turcorum et Byzantiis pariter auctor ut Iudaei (ut saltem una oppositio) ut cum ingenti quisque ex hodierna Iudaeorum non patrium nexum ad David et Salomon :P
Yes, I've nothing better to do than mess about with google translate :(
Quote from: FierceKitty on 10 August 2012, 08:49:58 AM
(goodness, what a sentence, should be written in Latin)!
Thank heavens for Arthur Koestler who has written a book about it in English.
Quotewhat would you select if:
1) you had to use 10mm other than Pendraken figures;
I don't know what you mean. :-\ ;)
Quote2) you had to use a different scale;
That would be 6mm; it's the "massed" look + large maneuvering space on the table that does it for me.
Quote3) you had to play a different period from your present stable of staples (ain't I poetic today?);
Medieval probably - instead of my present staples of WWII and 17th century.
Quote4) you had to change to a different game from wargaming (God forbid), and why?
Chess. Unless you consider that a wargame, which it was originally. After that, it would probably be some banal card game.
Cheers,
Aart
But to answer the questions...
1) would vary, depending on period
2) torn between 15mm & 6mm, 15s are nicer to paint but 6mm give better mass effect
3) 18th century India
4) Bridge, it is the best card game ever I've being playing over 20 years and still get a buzz when I make a contract :)
1. Magister Militum - but only because of their range. Quality and pricing in no way comparable to Pendraken.
2. 15mm - Tried 6mm and was never comfortable with my painting
3. Medieval I think
4. Never really considered it, but would probably start on-line gaming of some sort.
Chad
PS. Have been trying to get to grips with Shogi for years and Go.
I think that where you say 'Khazaks', you actually mean 'Khazars'. But as to the questions:
1) Are there other manufacturers! :o OK, yes, there are. I use Minifigs/Magister/Pithead to fill some gaps. But 1st choice is always PD.
2) I would probably want to try the 3mm (1/600) stuff, for the massed effect.
3) Moderns would be a good choice then (I have WW2 and the dungeon in 10mm). And ancient/medieval in 15mm.
4) I also play varous boardgames/cardgames/etc (the 'Eurogames' stuff).
1. Irregular are good but small, Old Glory are even smaller and somewhat wooden.
2. 15mm - Lord knows I've got enough of 'em.
3. I might dip down into Ancients, if only to see if anything has changed since the dark days of WRG.
4. I play a lot of strategy games - my favorite is Carcasson a tile game that involves building walled towns, monasteries, roads etc.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 10 August 2012, 10:40:22 AM
1. Irregular are good but small
I ordered some trial packages from Irregular. Too much flash, too little detail. The heads in particular are pin-sized, whether intentional or due to miscasting I couldn't be arsed to find out.
Cheers,
Aart
1) Besides Pendraken I cannot think of any decent 10mm stuff I would actually buy
2) definately 3mm/6mm stuff for mass armies and 28mm skirmish
3) there are no other periods (I play all)
4) indeed, god forbid!
Quote from: FierceKitty on 10 August 2012, 08:49:58 AM
if you had to change, what would you select if:
1) you had to use 10mm other than Pendraken figures;
2) you had to use a different scale;
3) you had to play a different period from your present stable of staples (ain't I poetic today?); and
4) you had to change to a different game from wargaming (God forbid), and why?
1. I often buy from the MM range where gaps in PD ranges exist
2. I have stuff in 6mm, 10mm, 15mm, 20mm and 28mm. If I had to stick to one because 10mm didn't exist it would probably be 15mm
3. I'd like to play Samurai games but cant find a decent set of rules
4. I'd take up mixed beach volleyball and volunteer to be the permanent server so i could stare at my female partners arse all the time... or a mixed tandem bike riding team so I could stare at my female partners arse all the time...
1+2: Heretic, BURN HIM.
Sandinista - couldn't agree more about bridge; wish I could get a card-literae group together here.
OldenBUA - Quite right, and in fact I got it right the first time (before the computer froze on me), and maybe the second (before the power cut).
:
1) you had to use 10mm other than Pendraken figures;
* I probably wouldn't. The other 10mm ranges that come close to as good are only doing ACW.
2) you had to use a different scale;
* 6mm and/0r 28mm. I have some 15s, but a friend is painting them
3) you had to play a different period from your present stable of staples (ain't I poetic today?); and and
* Ancients - probably chariot age.
* Cold War
4) you had to change to a different game from wargaming (God forbid), and why?
* I enjoy playing Carcassonne with my younger son. But really, would probably just do something totally other with the history geeky-ness, like SCA or something.
1) I wouldn't, unless Adler paid me..
2) Regularly play 15, 25, 28, 6mm, plus 1:1200 ships, 1:600 planes and 1:24000 spaceships.
3) Erm, the only period I don't (or haven't) played regularly is Renaissance to 1800 and C20th interwar...
4) Fencing, climbing, badminton, pickled egg eating...
1) I'm not overly impressed by other 10mm stuff, so I'd go straight to Q2
2) I already muck about with multiple scales, but 15mm would become the prominent one.
3) I think cavemen and dinosaurs is the only thing I haven't tried yet ....... Nah, ain't going to happen!
4) I'd just put the extra time into my other main hobby - N scale (read 10mm) railways.
Cheers,
Kev
1) not really an option, no-one else has the variety or completeness of ranges - and Old Glory have those awful infantry strips!
2) 6mm. Peter at Baccusrwally deserves more of my custom, and I love troops "in" the terrain rather than on it.
3) Early WW2, 1940 French And British, and not a big cat in sight.
4) This is the really hard one - probably nothing, I'd go for more history reading and more battlefield touring. Might even try and write something!
Mollinary
Hmmmmm..............
1) Probably TB, MM a close second
2) 6mm , as I have 6mm stuff already its not a problem
3) Not sure, but the Tudor Wars hold a certain appeal
4) Whats Wargaming?...I thought there was only the FOW hobby!
By the way, to show that I, as all typing Nazis do, have feet of clay! For " Baccusrwally" read "Baccus really". Pity, as baccusrwally has a certain ring to it!
Mollinarwally
So I've heard!
Molinarwally
Well I would but Techno is asking me to give him 18p for some trick over on another thread
1) you had to use 10mm other than Pendraken figures;
No point. I'd rather go without.
2) you had to use a different scale;
28mm
3) you had to play a different period from your present stable of staples (ain't I poetic today?); and
Napoleonics. Bizarrely i've managed to avoid the whole period so far...
4) you had to change to a different game from wargaming (God forbid), and why?
Roleplaying.
1] Well, I'd rather not - but I have got some Minifigs moderns [12mm] and Old Glory in my ACW armies [they were a second-hand bargain that was too good to pass up]
2] 2mm, 3mm & 28mm
3] South American Pacific War or Chaco War
4] Roleplaying
Quote from: Fenton on 10 August 2012, 08:39:16 PM
Well I would but Techno is asking me to give him 18p for some trick over on another thread
I'll let you have it back !
Sheesh !! ;)
10mm but not Pendraken - Pithead?
28mm
Medievals and Sci-Fi
Battle Games :)
Everybody's ignoring the "why". I fail students for that. Like flies.
Why not(1)?
(1) This all depends on your philosophic, religious, moral, materialistic and entrepreneurial viewpoint(2).
(2) Or not!
i. It was the quality and range of Pendraken's stuff that got me into 10mm - if that wasn't available I wouldn't bother with 10mm
ii. 6mm (Baccus)
iii. WSS or maybe Colonials (Zulu war)
iv. I'd spend more time playing GMT's excellent Combat Commander: Pacific and Space Empires 4X games, as well as more Eurogames like Agricola, Puerto Rico etc..