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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Nosher on 07 August 2012, 06:13:12 PM

Title: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Nosher on 07 August 2012, 06:13:12 PM
Anyone know how suitable pack EL6 is (from the Elizabethan Range) is for a Thirty Years War Imperial sword and buckler?

Is there just the one pose per pack?
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 07 August 2012, 08:53:06 PM
Quote from: Nosher on 07 August 2012, 06:13:12 PM
Anyone know how suitable pack EL6 is (from the Elizabethan Range) is for a Thirty Years War Imperial sword and buckler?

Is there just the one pose per pack?

Hi Nosher,

No real idea about the suitability for TYW, but from the internationally recognised standard definition of adequate undergraduate research, ie 5 minutes with Google, I'd say probably not.  The figure has slashed trunk hose which I didn't see in any of the web images.

However, I can confirm that there is only one pose per pack.

Cheers,

Meirion
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 August 2012, 09:41:00 PM
Congrats on the 1000 posts Nosher!  :D
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Nosher on 07 August 2012, 09:44:18 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 07 August 2012, 09:41:00 PM
Congrats on the 1000 posts Nosher!  :D

999 of them irrelevant drivel... ;D

Thanks for the feedback on the figure Meirion ;)
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 August 2012, 11:17:38 PM
I'm far from a TYW expert; didn't know thet were still using those swodsmen.
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Nosher on 08 August 2012, 07:08:08 AM
certainly were - up until 1639 - tartschier
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Techno on 08 August 2012, 09:50:19 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 07 August 2012, 11:17:38 PM
I'm far from a TYW expert; didn't know thet were still using those swodsmen.

IMPOSTER ALERT !
OUR FK doesn't make spelyng misteaks ! ;)

Now he's going to humiliate me by saying those ARE real words. ;)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Hertsblue on 08 August 2012, 10:09:30 AM
Actually more of a typo, Phil. We all get finger-trouble from time to time. Shall we let him off this time?  ;)
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: FierceKitty on 08 August 2012, 10:36:09 AM
Iverybody hateme jus becos I bootiful an cleve!
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Techno on 08 August 2012, 10:39:54 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry FK !.... :-[
You're right Ray.
Cheers - Phil. (Who's as guilty as everyone else.)
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: SV52 on 08 August 2012, 11:33:59 AM
According to George Gush's book, he says, '...there may well have been a few halberdiers and sword and buckler men included among the tercio pikemen as well, but they would not have formed over about 5 or ten percent of the pikes...'. That being the case, depending of course on the figure ratio used, I think they could be safely omitted without attracting undue attention from rivet-counters. :D
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 09 August 2012, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: Nosher on 07 August 2012, 09:44:18 PM
999 of them irrelevant drivel... ;D

Thanks for the feedback on the figure Meirion ;)

You're welcome, post an image of what you're after and I can give you a more positive thumbs down/up.  ;)
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: FierceKitty on 09 August 2012, 11:41:16 PM
I must put my specs on in the mornings; I've just read this topic as "Soviet sword and bucler men".
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Techno on 10 August 2012, 06:03:47 AM
Quote from: SV52 on 08 August 2012, 11:33:59 AM
According to George Gush's book, he says, '..

I wouldn't worry FK....I originally read the above as "George Bush's book....." 8-}
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: FierceKitty on 10 August 2012, 08:31:18 AM
Quote from: Techno on 10 August 2012, 06:03:47 AM
I wouldn't worry FK....I originally read the above as "George Bush's book....." 8-}
Cheers - Phil.
Where can we get some sturdy white sticks?
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Sandinista on 10 August 2012, 08:33:57 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 10 August 2012, 08:31:18 AM
Where can we get some sturdy white sticks?
There's a business opportunity for Minibits, white sticks for wargamers. White at one end and painted as a measuring stick at the other  :D
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: GordonY on 10 August 2012, 11:02:58 AM
White sticks???

Well I use 10mm x 4mm basswood strips from Hobbycraft, usually come in 2ft (60cm) lengths at around a quid a go.
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Sigur on 28 August 2012, 02:11:12 AM
Hey Nosher, I used these minis for my Imperial/Leaguist army for TYW.

First, it's only one pose. Second - yeah, they're not ideally suited, especially with the trousers. Still, they fit okay because large portions of the bodies are hidden behind the bucklers anyway. The armour fits approximately (probably a tad heavy though), the helmets are fine.

(http://sigur.tabletopgeeks.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/18/gallery/historicals-thirty-years-war/swordsmen1.jpg)

Here's a shot of their backsides (work in progress):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/Lexandro/swip3.jpg)
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: FierceKitty on 28 August 2012, 02:49:30 AM
They'd look great facing some Otomi or Cuachicqueh, wouldn't they?
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Hertsblue on 28 August 2012, 08:36:56 AM
Language, FK, language!  :D
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Nosher on 28 August 2012, 08:39:10 AM
Nice one Sigur. Need to find some similar clothed billmen/halberds and I'm good to go
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: FierceKitty on 28 August 2012, 08:44:17 AM
I should add that I'm impressed by the highlightng on the armour. Very nifty.
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Techno on 28 August 2012, 08:56:27 AM
Seconded !!
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: gregernest on 26 February 2013, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: Sigur on 28 August 2012, 02:11:12 AM
Hey Nosher, I used these minis for my Imperial/Leaguist army for TYW.

First, it's only one pose. Second - yeah, they're not ideally suited, especially with the trousers. Still, they fit okay because large portions of the bodies are hidden behind the bucklers anyway. The armour fits approximately (probably a tad heavy though), the helmets are fine.

What SKU# are these?
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Leon on 27 February 2013, 03:11:20 AM
Quote from: gregernest on 26 February 2013, 09:13:47 PM
What SKU# are these?

EL6 - Sword and bucklerman: http://www.pendraken.co.uk/EL6-p3000/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/EL6-p3000/)

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/EL6.JPG)
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: Hertsblue on 27 February 2013, 09:56:18 AM
If I have one small critism of an otherwise excellent paint job, it's that the figures are too uniform. The Spanish allowed their troops to wear whatever they wished for, as they said, "how can you expect a man to fight at his best if he's not wearing his own clothes?". I get the impression that the sword and buckler men would wear whatever bits of armour they could find and operate in an irregular "swarm", making opportunistic attacks on the flanks and rear of the pike block. OK, I know you have to go with the figures available, but just a thought.  :)
Title: Re: Sword and buckler renaissance figures
Post by: FierceKitty on 27 February 2013, 02:47:30 PM
I see your point, HB, but I must say I'd also go for uniformity with Spaniards. One wants them distinguished from the extravaganza of Landsknecht and Italian clothes, doesn't one? A uniform looks like the mark of the iron-shod feet of the Habsburg overlord.
  Just my two guilders' worth.