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Title: My first fantasy figures
Post by: FraNe91 on 23 July 2012, 06:38:09 PM
Hello everyone! I'm new here in the forum and In the miniatures world  :D
But I've already done some figurines, so here are the pics!

The first three I made
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7804/primeminiature.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/primeminiature.jpg/)

The first three with four others:
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9363/mnis02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/mnis02.jpg/)

(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/6143/minis03.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/minis03.jpg/)

I have still to complete the bases, more photos when they're finished!

What do you think? Any suggestions?
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: nikharwood on 23 July 2012, 06:46:41 PM
Very nicely done - and welcome too!  8)

You could give them a quick wash to accentuate your painting - it'll add a bit more depth & contrast, especially to the flesh.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: robert on 23 July 2012, 08:27:06 PM
For a first attempt - excellent!

As Nik says, a thinned brown ink wash will work magic on your figures - paticularly the cloak - Nik didn't mean the figures were dirty - they just need a quick brush of thinned ink :)

check out Nik's links to his Wiki painting guides - loads of good material.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Fenton on 23 July 2012, 08:36:31 PM
Very nicely done sir, I would third the comments about a thin wash over the figures to bring the detail out
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Techno on 23 July 2012, 08:41:23 PM
Good work....And welcome to the forum !
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 July 2012, 08:48:10 PM
Hello! Good job on the figures, but as the rest of the lads have said, a simple watered down ink wash will bring out many of the details.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Squirrel on 23 July 2012, 08:55:13 PM
Welcome aboard. Thanks for sharing your photos, very good start with your painting.

Cheers,

Kev
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Leon on 23 July 2012, 09:02:31 PM
Very nice, welcome to the Forum!

8)
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: FraNe91 on 24 July 2012, 01:32:06 AM
Thanks for your replies!  :)
I've already done the washing with black color, but I suppose it didn't worked so well mainly because seeing all that black thick drops I was afraid they could remain on the figure ruining it, so I removed them... maybe it was just an impresison  :-[

Should I apply the brown wash on the whole models or just on the cloack (I suppose you was talking about the red-brown one)?
Or what wash should I apply?
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 July 2012, 02:06:47 AM
That chap waving a sword seems to be wearing a tin-foil tunic (?).
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: robert on 24 July 2012, 06:35:18 AM
Be brave - mix one part water with one part brown ink wash, get a nice large soft brush and slosh it over the whole figure.  Black is too dark:)

wait a short while - if puddles of the slosh form at base of cloak or around feet of figure use corner of a tissue to soak it up.

Sounds complicated when written down (like most things) but is dead simples.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: FraNe91 on 24 July 2012, 07:44:30 AM
Ok, I'll try it!
I have no ink now, I have Game Color Beasty Brown, How many parts of color/water should I use?
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: robert on 24 July 2012, 04:15:48 PM
half water and half ink/wash - try it and see what happens.

Maybe need a bit more of either - don't know - never used Beasty Brown!

Like all of life you need to experiment and try things out until you settle on a way of doing things that satisfies you.

I got sucked into trying black undercoat - once - as that is a preferred start for many people - I hated it  - could not see anything to paint :)
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: jchaos79 on 24 July 2012, 04:41:05 PM
They look great, pal!

Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Syr Hobbs on 24 July 2012, 04:59:47 PM
Look good!  and welcome

Duane
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Luddite on 24 July 2012, 06:27:34 PM
Hi FraNe91 and welcome to the hobby and the forum!

You made a good choice starting with 10mm (god's own scale).

If they're your first miniatures they're excellent!  Far better than my (and i imagine most) first daubings.

I'll echo the advice on the painting though.

Brown ink (mixed 50/50 with CLEAN water - very important its clean - make sure your washing brush is scrupulously clean too...i've been caught out with a bit of metallic paint left on the bristles before...  >:( ).

Wash it all over in a liberal coat. 
When it dries you should be pleasantly surprised how much better it makes your figures look!
For 'grubby' figures you can leave it there, but for brighter figures you might like to reapply a highlight coat to make the bright details 'pop out'.

And as the standard advice to new painters...'thin your paints'.  2-3 thin coats are always better than 1 thick coat.   :D :-bd
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: nikharwood on 24 July 2012, 11:54:59 PM
Bang in some Klear / Futura Floor polish into the mix for a more even (& protective wash) - if you can't get hold of that, just a drop of washing-up liquid will help consistency of coverage as it'll help with surface tension...or something similarly technical.  :)
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: FraNe91 on 25 July 2012, 09:52:28 AM
Thank you everyone very much, I'll try to do this as soon as I can :)
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: FraNe91 on 25 July 2012, 11:58:53 AM
I've tried with 50/50 brown paint/water but the result looks too brownish to me, expecially the sword, the hand  and the cloak (it was supposed to be reddish, now its too brown).
Is it normal or did I something wrong? Or should I do something more? Some drybrush maybe?
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 July 2012, 12:42:45 PM
Dry brush over that, it will work out fine. ink has different qualities to paint, so i would dry brush the weapon definitely.
I usually use a black ink on weapons unless you  want a rusty effect.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Techno on 25 July 2012, 12:54:12 PM
I agree with Lemmey...I reckon you'll be pleased with the results !
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: OldenBUA on 25 July 2012, 01:28:35 PM
I think next time you could try and use more water. With a wash, you want the paint to be very thinned down. Not really paint anymore, but more like milk.

Above all, experiment! Try various combinations on a spare figure (if you have one) and see what works for you.

For this figure, I agree that a dry-brush would work quite well to make it less brown again.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: GordonY on 26 July 2012, 06:51:26 AM
I think Fran missed the point, theres a world of difference between washing with ink and washing with PAINT washing with paint tends to have to be on an area by area basis, which isnt really practical on a 10mm figure. Ink/Varnish/Magic Wash is more a slop it over the whole figure technique.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: FraNe91 on 26 July 2012, 07:29:47 AM
Mmm I didn't knew that  :-\
So what's the main difference between paint and ink?
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: sunjester on 26 July 2012, 07:59:42 AM
Hi Fran,

I can't give you the technical explaination, but ink is much runnier than paint! If I'm washing with ink I use a 50/50 mix, with paint it's more 75% water, or even more depending on the thickness of the paint.

For 10mm I give the figures a final wash of a grey/brown mixed with varnish. I know people say to use Clear/Futra floor polish but I had a pot of brown tinted wood varnish to hand so I used that. After experimenting I use 75% varnish to 25% water with a few drops of black ink. It does have a slightly shiny finish, but personally I always prefered gloss varnish to matt. That's a personal choice.

Like people have said experiment a bit until you find the result that you like.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: FraNe91 on 13 September 2012, 09:09:55 PM
Hey guys!
It's some of time I don't write here!
I have finally finished the miniatures (base, wash, protective glossy varnish and then matt varnish) and I've done some new ones. Sadly now I have no pictures of them because my father has the camera, and he's in USA working till 20 of September.
About the read cloak miniature, I finished repainting the cloak because it was really too brown for my taste and far from the original purpose.
I'll post the pics as soon as I can.

Anyway, I've just a question: after the wash the miniatures remain sometimes too brown and seem all dirty. I thought about dry brushing, but I find it very difficult because of the dimension. I'm referring especially about tiny parts as shirts, pants, skin etc. which usually have different colors in the same figure. How can I drybrush them without ruining the other different color parts? Or there's another technique I don't know?
Thanks again!
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: FierceKitty on 14 September 2012, 10:00:41 AM
Quote from: Luddite on 24 July 2012, 06:27:34 PM


You made a good choice starting with 10mm (God's own scale).

From His perspective, we're all 2mm at best, I fear.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 September 2012, 11:22:44 AM
I'd say for 10mm a number 2brush for large drybrush areas, and a knackered 00 for smaller areas, just make sure your brush is REALLY almost dry.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: FraNe91 on 25 November 2012, 02:23:32 PM
Hey fellows! It's been a lot of time I said I'll be posting new pictures, and I'm finally doing it!
Here there are all the finished ones, completed with bases and matt varnish. The only problem I found with this varnish is that it dulls even silver and gold varnish not allowing me to dip the miniatures in it and making the work longer.

(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/10/1162764/Pendraken/Miniature01fronte.jpg)

(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/10/1162764/Pendraken/Miniature01fronte2.jpg)

(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/10/1162764/Pendraken/Miniature01sopra.jpg)

(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/10/1162764/Pendraken/Miniature01retro.jpg)



And here there are the ones I'm finishing. I just need to finish the bases, add the protective glossy varnish and then the matt varnish.

(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/10/1162764/Pendraken/Miniature02fronte.jpg)

(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/10/1162764/Pendraken/Miniature02retro.jpg)


What do you think?

And I'm not sure what kind of terrain I could make for the sci-fi troopers, do you have any suggestion?
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: GordonY on 25 November 2012, 05:28:08 PM
First buy some of these http://www.pendraken.co.uk/SF23-p5278/ then knock up a few corridors with cardboard and gaffer tape and youre good to go for a game of Aliens.
Title: Re: My first fantasy figures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 November 2012, 06:12:01 PM
Really looking good!