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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: FierceKitty on 23 July 2012, 02:07:05 AM

Title: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: FierceKitty on 23 July 2012, 02:07:05 AM
   I should like some opinions from other gamers on a tricky point:
  As you all know, a few basic details make all the difference between an acceptable games-standard figure (all I can hope to manage at my age and in the current state of my eyes) and a Jackson Pollock job. One pretty automatic feature is of course the belt that soldiers almost everywhere have in one form or another.
  But the Ansar in the Mahdist armies are always illustrated with a white sash over a white tunic. Do I go the Aristotelian route and select a plausible lie in preference to an implausible truth, do I rigorously paint what they really wore and settle for an anaemic appearance, or do I compromise and paint a faint beige or similar belt?
   Your voices, masters!
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: GordonY on 23 July 2012, 05:20:17 AM
I always assumed that the actual belt was hidden under the sash thingy, that made painting 150 of the little buggers a breeze.
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: Steve J on 23 July 2012, 06:46:31 AM
I'd go for a slightly different white/ light beige for a bit of artistic license.
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 July 2012, 06:57:00 AM
Ink wash around the belt area then highlight belt and area of tunic around to give a shade effect? :-\
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 23 July 2012, 09:11:05 AM
Aristotle, though he was a b****r for the bottle...
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: Techno on 23 July 2012, 11:02:20 AM
Hobbes was fond of his dram. ;)
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: mollinary on 23 July 2012, 11:08:44 AM
And Rene Descartes was a ?

Mollinary
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: nikharwood on 23 July 2012, 11:15:25 AM
I'd go with mad lemmey and / or Steve J here...
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: robert on 23 July 2012, 11:57:18 AM
white and very thin ink wash in dirty brown - which will define the belt area whilst finishing the figures 'as they were'.  Why paint something that was not actually there?

At our age FK it is hard enough seeing the figures at 30" never mind the colour of a belt :)
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: FierceKitty on 23 July 2012, 11:58:22 AM
True. I shall not worry too much about it anyway; the coloured patches give plenty of animation.
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: Sandinista on 23 July 2012, 03:44:30 PM
Try a few different styles, then put them together on a table and stand 1 metre away and see what looks best
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: Jim Ando on 30 July 2012, 03:07:49 PM
Hi

You can get away with murder if you slap a wash on.

Jim
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: Leon on 30 July 2012, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: Jim Ando on 30 July 2012, 03:07:49 PM
You can get away with murder if you slap a wash on.

(http://scallywagandvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/oj-simpson-smiling-murder-trial.jpg)

:o
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: Hertsblue on 31 July 2012, 11:15:43 AM
Yep, Vallejo Brown Shade, well watered down should make the creases stand out.
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: GordonY on 31 July 2012, 02:31:50 PM
Over O.J. ??
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: cameronian on 31 July 2012, 02:50:12 PM
Austrian Cuirassiers circa 1866 present a similar problem, white cartridge belt over a white tunic; I paint the cartridge belt cream and the tunic pure white, then I ARMY PAINTER them; for some reason the AP really makes the cream stand out as well as highlighting the shadow between belt and tunic.

Quote from: mollinary on 23 July 2012, 11:08:44 AM
And Rene Descartes was a ?

Mollinary

... was a drunken fart, I drink therefore I am, and Socrates himself was particularly missed ....
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 July 2012, 03:45:48 PM
A lovely little think, but a....
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 August 2012, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 31 July 2012, 03:45:48 PM
A lovely little think, but a....
...bugler...
Title: Re: Modeller's ethics and the Ansar
Post by: Aart Brouwer on 06 August 2012, 12:03:00 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 06 August 2012, 10:14:16 AM
...bugler...

Isn't that the Austrian vernacular for 'pint'?  :-\

Cheers,
Aart