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Title: flags
Post by: Le Manchou on 10 July 2012, 08:28:40 AM
Hello everybody, Pendraken is offering new (and better) miniatures each month but the flags offer is still weak. Do you plan to propose more flags and to increase their quality in the next years?
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 10 July 2012, 08:29:16 AM
Seconded.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 10 July 2012, 08:52:59 AM
I think one thing that would be worth everyone's input, would be....
Do you prefer 'plain' flagpoles'....So you can add your own 'paper' flags....
Or.....Do you prefer already moulded metal flags ?

Remember that the poles themselves have to be on the 'thicker' side, so they can be cast properly !
(Plus the fact that if they were cast in a realistic thickness, they'd be so fragile on the table... assuming they survived the post before they reached you.)
Just my two pees worth.

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 July 2012, 08:54:36 AM
As far a I know, Leon & Dave are heading away from cast on flags.
Hate them...
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Hertsblue on 10 July 2012, 08:56:17 AM
Quote from: Techno on 10 July 2012, 08:52:59 AM
I think one thing that would be worth everyone's input, would be....
Do you prefer 'plain' flagpoles'....So you can add your own 'paper' flags....
Or.....Do you prefer already moulded metal flags ?

Remember that the poles themselves have to be on the 'thicker' side, so they can be cast properly !
(Plus the fact that if they were cast in a realistic thickness, they'd be so fragile on the table... assuming they survived the post before they reached you.)
Just my two pees worth.

Cheers - Phil.

I think this was decided some time ago, Phil. The consensus of opinion was heavily in favour of bare poles.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Leon on 10 July 2012, 08:57:23 AM
We'd definitely like to add more flags to the range, but it's a case of finding someone with the time/ability to draw them up.  We've been working with someone to add some WSS/SYW flags, but beyond that, nothing's planned at the moment.

:(

On the cast flag/bare-pole front, the bare-pole has always been the preference in previous discussions, and that's what we're doing on any future ranges.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 10 July 2012, 09:02:01 AM
Thanks  Ray.
Haven't had to make any figures with flags myself, apart from the conversions folk have been getting me to do for the different uniforms/headgear.
Ahh !....So you were talking about the flags themselves....Sorry....Just ignore me.
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 10 July 2012, 09:39:06 AM
To be honest I would prefer open handed colour bearers so I can use brass rod/ piano wire for the poles.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 July 2012, 09:44:46 AM
That works until you look at the size of a 10mm hand, and you try to attach Imperial Eagles to the French (nightmare)!
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 10 July 2012, 10:53:31 AM
Open hands are also a right pain in the bum to make...(says Mr Anything for an easy life)...So that the hand 'looks nice'/looks right.
Personally I'd chop out/chop off the original flagpole, then drill through the hand with a 0.7 or 0.5mm bit (using a pin vise) then insert the brass rod.
Yeah...OK..I know.....I'm used to doing that sort of thing and I have the relevant bits of kit to do it...
But I reckon the majority of you wouldn't find that too difficult to do as a start to converting models.
Lemmey's right about Putting on something like an Imperial Eagle though.....Now that IS fiddly.

If I ever get the time (Hah !)...I'll do a quick stage by stage 'montage' of photos, if that would help ?

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: republic of tolworth on 10 July 2012, 12:27:24 PM
Drilling is, as Techno said, not too difficult. Pole only is always the better option.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Sandinista on 10 July 2012, 04:11:09 PM
Flags are easy to make, I use Paint it is a basic programme that came with PC. I find making them large size and scaling down in Word the best way. I print them off, spray with matt varnish, leave to dry then paint with gloss let them dry then cut out and attach.

Find pics on the net and draw a copy, don't need to worry about been a bit rough as when shrunk to 10mm scale you can't tell.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 July 2012, 04:24:48 PM
I get most of my flags from the net, as free images, may need to crop (I used paintshop pro), and then put on a word file to re-size.

IanS
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Chad on 10 July 2012, 07:39:30 PM
I get most of mine from Maverick Models.

Stu will size to suit.

Chad
Title: Re: flags
Post by: OldenBUA on 10 July 2012, 07:56:23 PM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 10 July 2012, 08:56:17 AM
I think this was decided some time ago, Phil. The consensus of opinion was heavily in favour of bare poles.

Well, here they are:

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1714.495.html
Title: Re: flags
Post by: FierceKitty on 10 July 2012, 11:33:14 PM
Quote from: Techno on 10 July 2012, 10:53:31 AM
Open hands are also a right pain in the bum to make...(says Mr Anything for an easy life)...So that the hand 'looks nice'/looks right.
Personally I'd chop out/chop off the original flagpole, then drill through the hand with a 0.7 or 0.5mm bit (using a pin vise) then insert the brass rod.
Yeah...OK..I know.....I'm used to doing that sort of thing and I have the relevant bits of kit to do it...
But I reckon the majority of you wouldn't find that too difficult to do as a start to converting models.
Lemmey's right about Putting on something like an Imperial Eagle though.....Now that IS fiddly.

If I ever get the time (Hah !)...I'll do a quick stage by stage 'montage' of photos, if that would help ?

Cheers - Phil.
My God, a man who knows how to spell "vise". There is hope for orthography yet!
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2012, 06:35:17 AM
But I did put a capital 'P' in where it wasn't needed.  ;) ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.

Title: Re: flags
Post by: FierceKitty on 11 July 2012, 07:04:08 AM
Banana fingers can be forgiven, except in a harpsichordist.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2012, 09:36:07 AM
 ;D ;D ;D.

But WHY FK....Is it referred to as a pin vise....When the British spelling of a tool that clamps/grips something is vice ?
The large 'clamp' sitting on my desk would be referred to as a vice (over here)....Yet the little pen shaped 'dooh-dah' that grips a tiny drill bit is a vise ?

'English' is such a strange language sometimes. ;)

What's the 'correct' past tense of fit ?.....To me it's fitted...In a lot of the books I listen to (I can't read while I push putty about...I have to look at what I'm 'sculpting')...I hear the word 'fit' used as the past tense....That drives me insane.  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil - Confused....But trying to be literate.

Title: Re: flags
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 July 2012, 09:43:47 AM
Depends what vice/vise you practise/practice Phil  ;D

vise/vīs/Noun: A metal tool with movable jaws that are used to hold an object firmly in place while work is done on it, typically attached to a workbench.


Synonyms: vice - clamp - visa


vice/vīs/Noun: Immoral or wicked behavior.


Preposition: As a substitute for: "the letter was drafted by David Hunt, vice Bevin who was ill".


Combining form: Acting as deputy or substitute for; next in rank: "vice regent"; "vice-consul".


Synonyms: noun.  defect - vise - fault
preposition.  instead of - in place of - in lieu of - for
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2012, 10:02:20 AM
So...
Really...There's no definitive answer as to whether it's vice or vise ?
I'm even more confused now :-S
I'll just stick to pushing putty around. ;)
Cheers - Phil.

Me ?...Practice vices/vises ?
I'm as pure as the driven slush Matey ;)
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Hertsblue on 11 July 2012, 10:05:44 AM
I think one day all the English-speaking peoples of the world are going to have to get together and thrash out a logical spelling for the language. Until that day it will never be the true lingua-franca that it could be.  :'(
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 July 2012, 10:28:06 AM
Meanwhile, different branches of English will keep evolving, and borrowing from other langauges.
All these loan words like curry, pyjama, bungalow, shadenfreude are all JUST so passé!
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2012, 10:44:39 AM
Oh No !

I'm FAR too old to learn even more new spellings for words that sound the same and have completely different meanings !
Ray's right....It's all evolving...Much too quickly.....Erk !!!
Cheers - Phil. (Who struggles with 'text speak'...Though I can eventually work it out.)
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 July 2012, 10:52:48 AM
Gr8, L8a!  :D
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 11 July 2012, 11:26:50 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 11 July 2012, 10:28:06 AM
Meanwhile, different branches of English will keep evolving, and borrowing from other langauges.
All these loan words like curry, pyjama, bungalow, shadenfreude are all JUST so passé!

Which, interestingly are never used in the Brigade of Guards, as they never went further East than Suez...No" mufti" for us only "plain clothes".
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2012, 11:33:08 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 11 July 2012, 10:52:48 AM
Gr8, L8a!  :D

Srtd....L8a Gzr !

That's quite enough incomprehensible 'text speak'. ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 July 2012, 11:40:57 AM
Try this...
http://www.textmewhat.com/Default.aspx (http://www.textmewhat.com/Default.aspx)
Title: Re: flags
Post by: goat major on 11 July 2012, 11:50:46 AM
Quote from: Techno on 11 July 2012, 10:02:20 AM
So...
Really...There's no definitive answer as to whether it's vice or vise ?


vis a vis vice or vise i would say visa versa
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 July 2012, 11:53:05 AM
 =O :-bd
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Steve J on 11 July 2012, 11:59:01 AM
From memory our bizarre and varied spelling came about as a result of Dutch printers coming over to print the Bible and often phonetically spelling the words they heard, but in a 'Dutch way' if that makes sense? The words then stuck in that form as the 'errors' were simply copied.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2012, 12:04:07 PM
Over to Aart then.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Leon on 11 July 2012, 01:47:28 PM
Don't get me started on text speak, it drives me up the wall.  We're raising a generation who can barely write their own name without sticking 'lol' on the end of it.   >:(
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2012, 02:12:04 PM
The only thing I like about 'shorties' like LOL....Is that you can let the person at the other end of the message, that you're not having a hissy fit, and what you've written is to be taken with a' pinch of salt'.....and is meant in a lighthearted way.
Apart from that....Don't get ME started either. >:(

Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: flags
Post by: goat major on 11 July 2012, 02:29:15 PM
i seem to use FFS an awful lot at work........
Title: Re: flags
Post by: FierceKitty on 11 July 2012, 02:40:49 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 11 July 2012, 11:59:01 AM
From memory our bizarre and varied spelling came about as a result of Dutch printers coming over to print the Bible and often phonetically spelling the words they heard, but in a 'Dutch way' if that makes sense? The words then stuck in that form as the 'errors' were simply copied.
AND French vocabulary imposed on German grammar, with an attempt to tart it up with Latin odds and ends, and a printing trade that paid by the letter...God, what a language, lol.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2012, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 11 July 2012, 02:40:49 PM
AND French vocabulary imposed on German grammar, with an attempt to tart it up with Latin odds and ends, and a printing trade that paid by the letter...God, what a language, lol.

Hear. hear ! FK !  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil (But it IS interesting to think how the 'English' language has evolved through time !.....How on earth do you try and teach your students this bizarre tongue ?)


Title: Re: flags
Post by: Leon on 11 July 2012, 09:05:25 PM
Quote from: goat major on 11 July 2012, 02:29:15 PM
i seem to use FFS an awful lot at work........

I'm hoping you don't walk around saying the abbreviated letters "F.F.S." though?!   :D 8-}

I've just Wiki'd 'FFS' and the first result is a gem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFS)

:-S

The other one which bugs me is 'PMSL'.  Are you really?  Your house must stink, and you should really go see a doctor about that.

:D
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Techno on 12 July 2012, 06:40:12 AM
Another abbreviation that I wasn't aware of. :-[....
Buy why put the 'S' in ?
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 12 July 2012, 10:06:26 AM
Illiteracy...
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Hertsblue on 12 July 2012, 10:11:11 AM
English grammar is actually relatively simple. At least we're not burdened with feminine houses and masculine windows. And as for vocabulary - we'll use anyone's.  ;)
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 July 2012, 11:03:19 AM
And we use intellegble letters - no ll's for instance, although suferners do mangle phonetics.

IanS
Title: Re: flags
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 July 2012, 11:07:03 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 12 July 2012, 10:11:11 AM
English grammar is actually relatively simple. At least we're not burdened with feminine houses and masculine windows. And as for vocabulary - we'll use anyone's.  ;)
Relativity can be oh so relative!
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Hertsblue on 13 July 2012, 07:41:55 AM
Well, at least we don't have to decide whether to address our neighbour as "you" or "thou" every day.  :D
Title: Re: flags
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 July 2012, 10:51:21 AM
Not any more.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 16 July 2012, 11:43:56 AM
You do where I come from in the West Riding...

Happen tha' knows.
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Hertsblue on 16 July 2012, 12:51:42 PM
Translation, please.  ;D
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 16 July 2012, 12:58:50 PM
It's one of those non sayings:

"Would you like a pint?"

"Happen I would."

"Would you like a kick in the goolies?"

"Happen I wouldn't."

"Ee she's a cracker"

"Happen!!"...
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Sandinista on 16 July 2012, 03:52:42 PM
Usually preceded by aye, as in Aye, 'appen ah will...
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Hertsblue on 17 July 2012, 08:59:16 AM
Is there an English-Tyke dictionary I could pick up somewhere?
Title: Re: flags
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 17 July 2012, 09:01:49 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 17 July 2012, 08:59:16 AM
Is there an English-Tyke dictionary I could pick up somewhere?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Teach-Thissen-Tyke-Yorksher-Speyks/dp/0902833634 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Teach-Thissen-Tyke-Yorksher-Speyks/dp/0902833634)


:)