My son said he had picked up some figures in a car boot sale that needed rebasing for BKC. I was painting and basing my modern wars group, and as he games with me in 10mm, I assumed that's what they were. BUT...They were 6mm ! Now I remember why converted tn 10mm. Rebasing 6mm must be the worst job in wargaming.The rates of attrition were high. Whats you worst experience in gaming?
Sunray out
No real disasters I can remember, but I always hate packing up after each game. I just wish I had a dedicated games room that I could leave everything set up.
Selling off unpainted lead, oh the horror.
Duane
Labelling 600 bases of Austrian 1866 infantry. Oh, I haven't done it yet....... But it is bearing down on me as the 2400 little Pendraken gems wing their way across the globe from the elves in Sri Lanka. Oh, and I cannot even start it until I 've based and flagged the little............ MEN!
Mollinary
Quote from: mollinary on 23 June 2012, 04:50:00 PM
But it is bearing down on me as the 2400 little Pendraken gems wing their way across the globe from the elves in Sri Lanka. Oh, and I cannot even start it until I 've based and flagged the little............ MEN!
Mollinary
Yeah, you lead a horrible life, Mollinary. :P
Cheers,
AArt
Aart,
Your sympathy and fellow feeling make it all worth while - you are a credit to the human race! :-* :-\
Mollinary
Actually, i think basing/rebasing the figures is generally the worst task. Having to paint the things is a chore enough but i hate basing. >:(
Um. Putting up with moochers who never put games on but expect a seat at the table. Pretty tough.
Have to agree with Luddite - basing :d
Hi
Basing no problemo, least when you get to that stage you`ve finished painting the little buggers.
Painting is the worst part by far especially horses, jesus I hate painting bloody cavalry. :'( :'( :'(
Jim
Quote from: Jim Ando on 23 June 2012, 07:50:55 PM
Hi
Basing no problemo, least when you get to that stage you`ve finished painting the little buggers.
Painting is the worst part by far especially horses, jesus I hate painting bloody cavalry. :'( :'( :'(
Jim
Absolutely, could not possibly agree more X_X
Repainting figures when the varnish goes white............. :(
trimming the flash off the bases when you have lost your snippers so it has to be done with a sharp blade, always best to count your fingers before and after to ensure the tally at both counts is the same, or if you cut it off on a board ....apologising to wife, children or pets as you embed subsonic pieces of pewter in them at 40 paces.
I too admit basing figures is no problem, it gets them finally done....but, what I hate is, when you have just undercoated a unit of minis and they all get lined up ready to start the labourious process of painting them in identical/matching colours....seeing them all lined up just brings home the task at hand, that does get right on my nerves (especially when there's 30+ of the little buggers!) It tends to take just as much time to paint the same amount of 28mm figs as it does 10mm or 15mm for me, so it doesn't matter which scale they're in! :o
Quote from: Jim Ando on 23 June 2012, 07:50:55 PM
Hi
Basing no problemo, least when you get to that stage you`ve finished painting the little buggers.
Painting is the worst part by far especially horses, jesus I hate painting bloody cavalry. :'( :'( :'(
Jim
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Hear, hear. After the first thousand, all horses look the same.
basing/rebasing. I've been known to paint new figures instead of rebasing existing painted figures.
Quote from: Maenoferren on 23 June 2012, 10:29:29 PM
trimming the flash off the bases when you have lost your snippers so it has to be done with a sharp blade, always best to count your fingers before and after to ensure the tally at both counts is the same, or if you cut it off on a board ....apologising to wife, children or pets as you embed subsonic pieces of pewter in them at 40 paces.
I use a polishing pad on my drill for this. Mount drill in bench vice, switch on drill, lightly touch bottom of model to rotating pad, and you have a perfectly flat base underside in 1 second.
Cheers,
Aart
Quote from: Aart Brouwer on 24 June 2012, 07:50:48 AM
I use a polishing pad on my drill for this. Mount drill in bench vice, switch on drill, lightly touch bottom of model to rotating pad, and you have a perfectly flat base underside in 1 second.
Cheers,
Aart
Dear god!
Clearly you have never seen me near power tools :o I'd be in A&E within minutes of turning the drill on ;D
The worst task in wargaming imho is deciding which rules to use for a period...............then resisting looking at a new set..........but finally giving up and deciding to use the new set ........
and then getting to the worst task which is of course :(
and for some reason my last post missed the last word :-\
REBASING
Have to agree, it's rebasing, eg. Maurice - all figures on same size frontage; damn, my cavalry and artillery were on wider frontages - and yes, it does make a difference.
I think rebasing is admitting a past project is a failure. Perhaps that is why a lot of people don't like to rebase - it means we have failed at something.
I rebased my 28mm for Maurice but I really cannot see me ever doing that again with these figures - they were based for Piquet Cartouche and Grognards which comprehensively failed for me - agreed.
All my 10 mm will be based to Warmaster/Commander series and this time I have stopped at looking at other 'new' rule sets and will concentrate on what I now have - so yes - if I was to ever rebase
that would be a failure - so it is not going to happen :-\
basing to a set tht DOSN@RT USE A BASE SIZE !
Good un.
IanS
Yep, it's got to be rebasing - each time I do it I swear I'll never do it again. However, it's a lot easier now I've finally cured myself of setting the little so-and-sos in Tetrion. #:-S
@ Ian S - were you replying to me?
If so I have completely missed your point - sorry.
The little blighters have to be stuck on something (which I call bases) and then you come unstuck when the new rules insist on a different size or grouping and re-basing is only option if new rules are to be used.
Quote from: Aart Brouwer on 24 June 2012, 07:50:48 AM
I use a polishing pad on my drill for this. Mount drill in bench vice, switch on drill, lightly touch bottom of model to rotating pad, and you have a perfectly flat base underside in 1 second.
Cheers,
Aart
hmmmm worth a try :D
Quote from: Shecky on 24 June 2012, 02:43:24 PM
I think rebasing is admitting a past project is a failure. Perhaps that is why a lot of people don't like to rebase - it means we have failed at something.
Not at all.
For me it usually means that i've taken up a new ruleset and because no rules use the same basing conventions... >:( :'( >:( :-w #-o ...it means i have to rebase the damned things.
Often you can get away with it since modern rulesets have largely abandoned any pretence to simulation and are mostly gamist in nature, but for some the base size is vital.
Its funny because I quite like basing. I always think of putting a good scenic base on a figure is a bit like putting a frame around a picture. Get it right and it makes a good picture look great, and a great picture look fantastic. Well worth taking your time over, IMHO (especially with 10mm as the base is so much bigger than the individual figures).
My most hated job is cleaning off flash, and glueing together multi part white metal kits, the cutting I loose fingers and the gluing I stick what few fingers I have left together again ;)
Cheers,Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
I hate basing...got several armies which wandered into a shoebox after completing the painting. Latest 10mm example: Sassanid Persians
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Quote from: TinyTerrain on 24 June 2012, 10:07:25 PM
My most hated job is cleaning off flash, and glueing together multi part white metal kits
Ooooh good one.
Yeah, i hate this too.
Lots of flash = poor customer service*.
But multipart figures really annoy me. I still have 4 boxes of unopened Perry 28mm Wars of the Roses models. Got part way through the first box and just could not be bothered to finish gluing all the uneccessary fiddly bits together. >:(
Don't get me wrong, multi-part where it allows you to vary poses, isn't too bad (i still hate it though), but most of Perry's stuff has ONE POSE. >:( >:( >:(
* The best company i've found on the flash score is Dark Realm Miniatures. Not only are their 6mm castings clean, they've evidendly been
cleaned of flash before shipping. They're pricey but i'm willing to pay that little extra to get clean models.
Of course Pendraken's castings are usually pretty good too. ;)
Nice looking Persians there by the way J S........get them based and they will look amazing :o
Cheers,
Craig
Tiny Terrain Models
Quote from: sultanbev on 23 June 2012, 08:55:28 PM
Repainting figures when the varnish goes white............. :(
Or a variation on this - when I picked up a can of white spray paint thinking it was spray varnish then had to repaint a lot of figures :'(
Oh tha has happened to me once on some beautifully painted LOTR Warg Riders from GW. I'm not sure I've gone back to fix them. :'(
Duane
Quote from: sultanbev on 23 June 2012, 08:55:28 PM
Repainting figures when the varnish goes white............. :(
I assume it's matt varnish that goes white when it reacts with the paint? If so, try the old trick of gloss-varnishing the figures first and then when it's dry matt varnishing over the top. Takes a bit longer but stops the "whiting". :)
I don't think I have had the misfortune of varnish going white on figures over time. I only had it once when i used some very old humbrol varnish, and it dried that way.
I use artists acrylic varnish and its only about £4 for a bottle, Imake a note when I buy the varnish and throw it away after about a year or if it starts to thicken too much.
Painting cavalry is the worst chore for me. The scale doesn't matter, it's always a chore. :(
Other than having to pack away your troops and terrain...Having to repaint and replace a damaged figure in a unit that you painted so long ago the colours have faded. The little b*gger always stands out like a sore thumb.
Bob
Got another one - p[acking up after a show on the 1st floor......with storage on the ground. I ache all over. :'(
IanS
Maintenence generally. Drilling out broken spears and replacing them with steel rod; gluing back sundry vehicle bits that have come unshipped during transit; re-fixing riders that have lost their horses. It's all unproductive time. :(
Agree with Hertsblue, am just rebasing Early Polish cav and almost every second knight needs to be refixed to his steed; Really time consuming.
Also take Poggle's point. Why is it that cav are such a pain to paint? The only "easy" ones I've ever done were Teutonic Knights -black undercoat, white cloaks and a bit of chainmail here and there. Any parts of dobbin sticking out remained black!
The worst I've ever had was when I bought several fantasy armies at once and in my excitement decided to base and undercoat the lot in one massive blitz to get that over with. Tedious enough at the best of times but I'd been a cheapskate and picked up a spray can from the £1 shop. Looked ok at first but then the paint just started peeling off.
Total fiasco. Had to strip them and do them all again for the sake of a couple of quid. I was cursing myself for that one.
Finding time to actually play the games. I can squeeze painting and basing and rules reading into the odd 20-minutes here or there, but knocking down the honeydo list down to a reasonable number of items so I can sneak out of the house to game for a few hours without feeling guilty about it - that's the real chore.
1. Cleaning off flash - especially when I find I've carefully and laboriously cut off what was part of the figure.
2. Having to remodel a bit of a figure I just cut off thinking it was flash.
Congratulating a cocky opponent on winning.
Quote from: WeeWars on 27 July 2012, 05:19:24 PM
1. Cleaning off flash - especially when I find I've carefully and laboriously cut off what was part of the figure.
2. Having to remodel a bit of a figure I just cut off thinking it was flash.
I completely agree. :(
Painting, or rather repainting, stuff you bought ready painted to "save time" :(
For example I recently bought 16 28mm metal wolf riders on Ebay, they looked nicely painted in the photos, a sort of gray flesh which wasn't my first choice for goblins, but it would do. But when they arrive, some of them are green skinned ~X(
I have no complaints about the painting standard and looking really closely at the photos I now see a hint of green skin in the back ranks, so I missed that.
I game Middle Earth in 28mm and hate green goblins/orcs. So now I have to repaint the exposed flesh, which is still faster than painting from scratch, but there are other things I wanted to paint right now! :'(
Removing those fiddly little bits of sprue connecting a horse's belly to its base.
I'd have to agree with rebasing.
I do love sets of rules that either use common base size assumptions or are base size agnostic.
Quote from: sunjester on 28 July 2012, 03:16:45 PM
Painting, or rather repainting, stuff you bought ready painted to "save time" :(
For example I recently bought 16 28mm metal wolf riders on Ebay,
I thought you had enough Orcs !!!!!!.
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 14 August 2012, 07:35:39 AM
I thought you had enough Orcs !!!!!!.
I have enough orcs on foot, but you can never have enough wolf riders can you! ;)
Quote from: sunjester on 14 August 2012, 02:31:51 PM
I have enough orcs on foot, but you can never have enough wolf riders can you! ;)
And you told me 64 was enough !!!!!!. :D Double standards methinks :-\
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 14 August 2012, 04:40:27 PM
And you told me 64 was enough !!!!!!. :D Double standards methinks :-\
As long as he did not want 5 more.... 8)
Orcs are NEVER enough.
1st most worst thing: Is when you spend a good long time painting all the detail on the models (guns, straps etc...) then you get them outside for the once over with the Army painter anti-shine varnish, then (after you have sprayed) you spot one German trooper with an unpainted MP40 or another where you missed his belt! grrrrrrr! angry! >:( >:( >:(
2nd most worst thing: Jim Ando blowing the crap out of your afrika korps with his stupid artillery, when you spend all week painting it and it has not even fired a shot in anger then you pack it away in the case! double grrrrrrr! :'( :'( :'(