Now with all those lovely 'Falkland' figures in modern gear with SLRs, it would be very useful to have an open Land Rover - perhaps in 22 SAS mode with GPMGs and kit.
Very useful for all the wee bush wars we are going subject these figures to.
Hopeful Sunray
My support obviously.
ianS
I'm in 8)
If these come out, I may just be tempted into buying some moderns :-\
Pink Panther? :-\
Mollinary
Not WW2 obviously, but a nice bit of kit:
http://world-viewer.com/photos/land-rover-sas-pink-panther/08/ (http://world-viewer.com/photos/land-rover-sas-pink-panther/08/)
Cheers,
Kev
Like this one: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5118.msg48965.html#msg48965 (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5118.msg48965.html#msg48965)
(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o551/mart6678/101_6617.jpg)
You'd have to beef it up a bit with all the extra kit though!
8)
Dat be a SWB one - the panther is LWB. Similar ones used by all airmobile Infantry for many years for the Recce pltoons.
IanS
Hi
The LWB Landrover is 80% complete pictures in a couple of days
hope that helps
Quote from: mart678 on 17 June 2012, 03:40:27 PM
Hi
The LWB Landrover is 80% complete pictures in a couple of days
hope that helps
I'll look forward to seeing it 8)
Cheers,
Kev
Quote from: mart678 on 17 June 2012, 03:40:27 PM
Hi
The LWB Landrover is 80% complete pictures in a couple of days
hope that helps
Yep - needs to be open with folded screen and no side windows.
That gives basis for the the PP, recce, and Mobat/Wombat carrier......
So - Wombat, Mobat, 106 rcl.
IanS
Agree with Ian. The classic LWB 110 reccy Landrover appeared first as a MkII - It was NATO/European regs that prompted the boys at Sollihull to shift the headlights from the grill to the wings. The old grill was great for a barbicue!
The Lightweight airportable is also a viable option. very popular in its day. - now it the 90 series minus doors and with a raised passanger seat (for GPMG gunner) that is the airborne version.
Possibly the Mkii LWB open top with folded screen would give the best model sales wise for the tabletop gaming market.
Sunray out
Hi Sunray
The first LWB will have the screen up and doors windows like SWB then I will do the variants first 2 soft and hard top then airborne ,ambulance even snatch for NI are all on the non 110 landrover,s You will be able with the airborne versions drapped in cam net, to do Danish(recoiless or tow) Australian Recoiless, SAS pink panther the list is quite long
Question 1 on Airborne variant who wants them covered in Cam Nets already?
2 Do you want an Ambulance?
3 SWB with either Tow or Recoiless
Let me know thanks
Martin
Quote from: mart678 on 19 June 2012, 07:32:09 PM
Question 1 on Airborne variant who wants them covered in Cam Nets already?
2 Do you want an Ambulance?
3 SWB with either Tow or Recoiless
1. Both would be nice, but if only one rarient then without please, it's easier to add camo than remove it.
2. YES! I mean yes please :D
3. Both of course ;)
Cheers,
Kev
Wot Kev sed ;) 8)
Likwuz
IanS
Quote from: mart678 on 19 June 2012, 07:32:09 PM
Hi Sunray
The first LWB will have the screen up and doors windows like SWB then I will do the variants first 2 soft and hard top then airborne ,ambulance even snatch for NI are all on the non 110 landrover,s You will be able with the airborne versions drapped in cam net, to do Danish(recoiless or tow) Australian Recoiless, SAS pink panther the list is quite long
Question 1 on Airborne variant who wants them covered in Cam Nets already?
2 Do you want an Ambulance?
3 SWB with either Tow or Recoiless
Let me know thanks
Martin
Martin- I do apologise for the delay in comms- blame Leon and his hyper fast mail order who rushed me out essential supplies to turn my castings into painted based kick-ass platoons !
OK, the key things in crafting a model range are (i) popular that will sell well and (ii) in time context to the existing range. The Falklands British infantry will allow 7.62 SLR/FN armed troops with .58 web to be modelled in a time frame from the late 1960s into the early 1990s. when even third world armies switched to 5.56mm.
In addition to mature memory, I rely on Terry Gander's
Encyclopaedis of the Modern British Army (Cambridge, 1980) which has fantastic scale drawings in 1/76 scale . A bible to those of us you modelled and indeed gamed in that scale
In the British Army, the LandRovers in service of this era (1968-1989) were :-
1. the 1/2 tonne or lightweight (88" wheelbase). Issued to Airborne in 1968. The Royals, and I can only speak for the Boys from Norton, mounted the 120mm Wombat on this vehicle. Never saw this use of initiative outside the Royals. The lightweight allowed a Puma to airlift.
2. the 3/4 tonne- was the elder brother of the clan and first appeared in a 109" wheelbase. In service since 1956! This model was adapted to carry 120mm wombat and the 81mm mortar - without tilt obviously. Most units in BAOR had a 7.62 GPMG in a SLAP mounting - often using the tilt frame. Reccie units began mounting the GPMG to fire forward over driver (not nice!) and the bad boys from Hereford began to mount a fore and aft GMPG and fit the Rover for the deployment. Other units also copied the fore and aft mounting and shed the doors.
Early versions had the headlights on the grill, but later marks shifte them to the wings. Civilian versions followed suit.
Unless someone has really fancy rules, the Ambulance is a nonstarter. A hardtop might have a few uses, and with a little conversion the FV18061 Shoreland could be completed. I have omitted the 1 Tonne Rover and the FV18067 ambulance. The former is useful if Pendraken intend to add the 105mm light gun to a modern range.
So, as our models are for wargames, I suggest
(1) 3/4 tonne (longwheel base) with screen and detachable tilt - just a clean troop carrier
(2) open topped 3/4 tonne minus screen and doors, and with netting. - allow loads of conversions !
(3) conversion kit packs with extra bits like GPMG , stowage gear, 120mm bat etc
(4) Air portable open, no doors or screen
But ....its you the guys on the forum that pitch in the real market research !
Sunray out
EDIT: Quote fixed.
On the case of 58 pattern webbing issued troops can i request that sculptors model some with bum roll on top of the kidney pouches and civilian bought day sacks as well, as no where really to put NBC kit etc.
When we discussed this range with Phil there was a consensus that we only wanted one iconic Royal figure actually yomping - or if the was a Tom, tabbing with rucksack and gear. The logic being that a soldier does not wander past the EFL into the killing ground carrying a Bergus ROC - he dumps it and gets on with the action.
With the added capacity of the ROC, thet was a visible reduction in belt order.
If you really want authentic Falklands look the experience of one Tom who was there is sobering:
"I started the attack with 14x 20 SLR mags, a sandbag with 200 rds of ball around my next and another 200 belted for the GPMG -plus a miked bag of L2 and and white phos ...and two LAWs. .I dropped the bergen at the EFL and from then on was skirmishing in the prone position. Two hours later I was out of ammo and rummaging through dead Argies for FAL mags"