How about more vehicles for Vietnam. And Cobra gun ships!
We'll add them to the list, but we've got a lot of busy designers at the moment so couldn't give you any idea of if/when they'll get done.
Riverine monitors too please, as I would be keen to then go full hog on Vietnam stuff , but at the moment the lack of choppers and boats is limiting what I'm prepared to buy. Don't forget that TooFatLardies are bringing out "Charlie Don't Surf" rules this year, and with the FOW Vietnam coverage I reckon this is a good time to sell stuff for this period.
I'd get some riverine stuff too...to go with my lovely Pendraken 'Nam stuff...
We've got a boat somewhere nearly ready for release, I haven't got the details of it with me at the moment. Is it a Saipan or something like that?
How about a mark5 Centurian tank for the Austrailians
There are noticeable holes in the Vietenam range with no LMGs for the VC/NVA or US. The MGs on tripods that are in the range do not reflect normal use.
To complete the range we could do with M60s for the US and RP46s for the VC and NVA.
Either carrying or firing prone would be good.
Also very useful would be US medics, Artillery observers and radio operators.
I used the Aussie standing with M60 in both my Aussie & US forces - he's wearing a bush hat so he's portable 8)
In fact, I've used all the Aussies with US weaponry in this way - gives variety...
Still waiting for my samples to make my decision. But agree on MGs needing carried/firing from bipod versions, I'm pretty sure they did not lug the tripod into the bush, and even on the defensive I don't come across it being used much in 'Nam. I like the sound of Derek's other ideas too.
With Charlie Don't Surf due out on May 31st, and the sample figures still underway, I'm sure I will have more suggestions in a short while.
Quote from: nikharwood on 12 May 2010, 09:43:35 PM
I used the Aussie standing with M60 in both my Aussie & US forces - he's wearing a bush hat so he's portable 8)
In fact, I've used all the Aussies with US weaponry in this way - gives variety...
That might be better than using the tripod mounted M60s but I'd question how often the troops in a single unit wore different headgear.
From looking at pictures online it looks to me like the US troops in a unit all wore either the helmet or the hat. I've found pictures where some soldiers are wearing the helmet and others are bare headed, but if pictures where both hats and helmets are being worn they're few and far between as I've not come across any in several hours of looking (Cue someone with hundreds of examples of just this happening).
It looks to me like the headgear worn may have been subject to unit orders or standard operating procedures.
Anyway some people prefer consistency to variety :-)
Quote from: Derk G on 13 May 2010, 09:41:45 AM
With Charlie Don't Surf due out on May 31st, and the sample figures still underway, I'm sure I will have more suggestions in a short while.
I take it you're Derk from the toofatlardies Yahoo Group?
I'm meant to be be playtesting your fantasy rules but have been massively diverted by all this Vietnam stuff. I ordered six books yesterday after discovering just how cheap second hand titles are on Amazon.
Whilst waiting for your samples you might want to take a look at the pictures I've posted at http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=590.0
(http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=590.0)
I'm still working on colour schemes, so some of those figures have more layers of paint than is good for them.
I've been looking around the Interwebs looking for information on Boonie Hats and it seems they were mostly used by Special Forces tropops, but were issued to other units after 1967.
They may have beeen used by normal infantry units later in the war, but I still haven't found any photos of mixed headgear in a picture.
Quote from: Derek H on 13 May 2010, 01:51:16 PM
I take it you're Derk from the toofatlardies Yahoo Group?
I'm meant to be be playtesting your fantasy rules but have been massively diverted by all this Vietnam stuff. I ordered six books yesterday after discovering just how cheap second hand titles are on Amazon.
Whilst waiting for your samples you might want to take a look at the pictures I've posted at http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=590.0
(http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=590.0)
I'm still working on colour schemes, so some of those figures have more layers of paint than is good for them.
One and the same! I'll look forward to your comments on This One's Split (http://thisonesplit.blogspot.com) when you do get around to it!
I already noticed the pictures, nice work. Can't wait to look at the actual miniatures with my own eyes. I'm curious how much more detail I'll be able to get on 10mm than on 6mm.
QuoteI'm curious how much more detail I'll be able to get on 10mm than on 6mm.
And the simple answer to that question is "lots!" 8)
Just received the samples today (Thanks!) and they look nice indeed. I'll be drafting up some sample orbats and then will go out and splurge cash on 'm.
But I want M60's on bipods! ;)
Agree with Derk. US infantryman with M60 on bipod wearing helmet is required.
Medics and Radio Operators would be nice.
It looks like there are LMGs for VC and VNA in the Indochina range - I'll be able to tell when my next order arrives..
put me down as a vote for the M60 bipod, artillery observers, medics and radio operators (i.e. targets :D )
Me too for a vote!
I too vote for thoose.
I'll add my vote as well
Hi there,
For my Vietnam US forces I'd be interested in the Huey rocket artillery versiosn (Frog and Hog). Seems to me these could be added as a fairly simple conversion pack for the Hueys. (Seperate pack with the bits to glue onto the Huey). Any chance of seeing this?
Of course, an open Huey with door gunners would help a lot too, but at least that is available from other suppliers.
Regards,
Derk
Thanks for that Derk, we've had some previous requests for the open door version.
I can imagine, but I can also see how that'd be a significantly larger amount of work than a 'bolt on' kit with the rocket launchers for the frog/hog
Quote from: Derk G on 29 June 2010, 07:55:02 PM
I can imagine, but I can also see how that'd be a significantly larger amount of work than a 'bolt on' kit with the rocket launchers for the frog/hog
Oh yeah, you're right. We did wonder whether we could drill out the side of our current one, and then clean it up. Not something we've had the chance to try yet though.
Is there any miniature of (or closely resembling) a Dshk HMG for my NVA forces?
As an alternative I am considering converting the AAMG version. A picture of the Russian Maxim MG would help determining if that helps for the wheeled mount?
Do you mean something like this?
http://world.guns.ru/machine/dshk_001.jpg (http://world.guns.ru/machine/dshk_001.jpg)
The Russian maxim has the correct shield and the wheels, but you'd need the gun from the NVA range. We could possibly do a conversion for this ourselves, so Dave's gonna have a play around with it.
Um, I don't see a picture there?
But what you're saying sounds spot on :) How do you intend to handle the gunner figure? As a #2 the mortar #2 would work fine I think :)
Here's one image of the prototype
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:12,7-%D0%BC%D0%BC_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%91%D1%82_%D0%94%D0%A8%D0%9A_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%86%D0%B0_1938_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0_%283-1%29.jpg
That mount unfolds to be the AA mount
You sure about that? I'd expect this to be the anti ground mount that folds out into a low tripod instead. Also the gun shield and lack of AA sight suggest it's not intended for AA use?
Ah, knackers to it, I'll try a regular link instead. The second one down on this page?
http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg03-e.htm (http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg03-e.htm)
That's the thing exactly! Well except for the fact that the shield didn' seem to have made it to 'Nam (see further down) so that changes the concept a little.
Lentulus, I stand corrected, seems that it did indeed fold out completely to the AA mount when needed, and that the shield is removable:
The standard mount is an universal setup, which can be used for both ground and AA roles. Designed by Kolesnikov, this mount consists of a detachable two-wheel base and three folding legs, which form the tail-boom for ground applications and are extended to form a tripod for AA applications. Kolesnikov mounts were issued with heavy armored shields, but crews often discarded shields to save some weight and to decrease the gun profile when firing from wheels. In the AA role, both wheels and shield were detached from the mount, and an optional shoulder support can be installed.
In fact seems like the DshkM, without shield, is what actually was used. See e.g.: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?130407-Vietnamese-Military-Thread-(updated-on-regular-basis)&s=e8721ff068eef3e459f940a07a157db5&p=4076010&viewfull=1#post4076010 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?130407-Vietnamese-Military-Thread-(updated-on-regular-basis)&s=e8721ff068eef3e459f940a07a157db5&p=4076010&viewfull=1#post4076010)
Is there any chance of getting an archetypal irregular VC fighter, black pyjamas, coolie hat and the ubiquitous AK47?
Chris
A judicious slap-it-on-thick-to-obscure-the-detail-and-make-it-look-like-a-coolie-hat paintjob on the helmeted types can do the trick [I mixed in a load of VietMinh codes too in my VC battlegroup] - have a look here:
http://nikharwood.pbworks.com/CWC+Viet+Cong+battlegroup
Agreed, the missing LMG is more serious IMHO
I tok a very small order for Vietnam stuff, I don't know what I'm gonna do with it, mabye just paint them for the hell of it, or game or make a diorama, I just don't know, but what I do know is that what ever I do, I'm gonna need 1 or more Hueys.
We've got one, there's a picture of it in this show report: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=769.0 (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=769.0) (Painting by Nik!)
Why can't I find it in the store
Because it's listed under the Australians rather than the Americans?
http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Post-War-c20/Vietnam-Australian-sc136/
Necrothreadomancy:
Amtracs, got to have them.
Cobras
Slicks
Hogs
Monitors for the riverine flotillas too.
Trucks and Mutts too.
Just saying with the FoW VN news, TFLs CDS, VN is ripe.
Do you have any idea just how BIG the LVTP-5 actually is ?
IanS ;)